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Old 07-01-2005, 03:35 PM   #1
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ALSA with Via soundcard on Gentoo


Hi,

Okay, so I just switched to Gentoo recently, and everything's as good as or better than before, except......... I don't have sound.

I followed the instructions up to teh initscript at http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/alsa-guide.xml, but still don't have sound.

I used to be able to get alsamixer to run and is would say it's uding the dummy output, but now (after recompiling the kernel without dummy support and re-emerging alsa-utils), whenever I run alsamixer, it says
Quote:
# alsamixer

alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device or address
Any suggestions? have my previous details at
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t...ighlight-.html
 
Old 07-02-2005, 06:17 AM   #2
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Did you build the sound card support as modules or directly into the kernel?
Are the settings for amixer muted? (they are by default)

GENTOO ROCKS!!!!!
 
Old 07-03-2005, 10:18 AM   #3
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This time I built it as modular support. I've put the snd-via82xx module into the /etc/modulesautoload.d/kernel-2.6 file. Is there anythinhg else I need?

Quote:
# amixer
amixer: Mixer attach default error: No such device or address
and

Quote:
# alsamixer

alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device or address
So I can't tell you. I'm running 2005.0 on kernel-2.6.11-gentoo-r11.

Thanks for the quick reply.
 
Old 07-03-2005, 06:42 PM   #4
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Now that its a module, type lsmod and verify that its loaded.
 
Old 07-04-2005, 11:16 PM   #5
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Fancy that. Soundcore is loaded, but via82xx or snd-via82xx arent. They're both in /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6 though. And I did compile them in.

which module is correct?
 
Old 07-05-2005, 12:14 AM   #6
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Take all of your sound modules out of the autoload.d config file.

Build/run ALSA this way
Make SURE you've included all sound options of the kernel as modules, as well as your correct hardware module.
emerge alsa-utils
run alsaconf as root, from the cli to make sure your wm isn't trying to use the soundcard.
rc-update add alsasound default
/etc/init.d/alsasound start
add ALSA and oss to your /etc/make.conf
re-emerge any audio apps with the --NEWUSE flag.
 
Old 07-06-2005, 02:28 PM   #7
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When I run alsaconf, it comes up with the following when it's updating the modules etc.

Quote:
Running modules-update...
Loading driver...
* Loading ALSA modules ...
* Loading: snd-card-0 ...
WARNING: Error inserting snd (/lib/modules/2.6.11-gentoo-r11/alsa-driver/acore/snd.ko): Invalid module format
WARNING: Error inserting snd_seq_device (/lib/modules/2.6.11-gentoo-r11/alsa-driver/acore/seq/snd-seq-device.ko): Invalid module format
WARNING: Error inserting snd_rawmidi (/lib/modules/2.6.11-gentoo-r11/alsa-driver/acore/snd-rawmidi.ko): Invalid module format
WARNING: Error inserting snd_mpu401_uart (/lib/modules/2.6.11-gentoo-r11/alsa-driver/drivers/mpu401/snd-mpu401-uart.ko): Invalid module format
WARNING: Error inserting snd_page_alloc (/lib/modules/2.6.11-gentoo-r11/alsa-driver/acore/snd-page-alloc.ko): Invalid module format
WARNING: Error inserting snd_timer (/lib/modules/2.6.11-gentoo-r11/alsa-driver/acore/snd-timer.ko): Invalid module format
WARNING: Error inserting snd_pcm (/lib/modules/2.6.11-gentoo-r11/alsa-driver/acore/snd-pcm.ko): Invalid module format
WARNING: Error inserting snd_ac97_codec (/lib/modules/2.6.11-gentoo-r11/alsa-driver/pci/ac97/snd-ac97-codec.ko): Invalid module format
FATAL: Error inserting snd_via82xx (/lib/modules/2.6.11-gentoo-r11/alsa-driver/pci/snd-via82xx.ko): Invalid module format [ !! ]
* Loading: snd-seq-oss ...
WARNING: Error inserting snd (/lib/modules/2.6.11-gentoo-r11/alsa-driver/acore/snd.ko): Invalid module format
WARNING: Error inserting snd_seq_device (/lib/modules/2.6.11-gentoo-r11/alsa-driver/acore/seq/snd-seq-device.ko): Invalid module format
WARNING: Error inserting snd_timer (/lib/modules/2.6.11-gentoo-r11/alsa-driver/acore/snd-timer.ko): Invalid module format
WARNING: Error inserting snd_seq (/lib/modules/2.6.11-gentoo-r11/alsa-driver/acore/seq/snd-seq.ko): Invalid module format
WARNING: Error inserting snd_seq_midi_event (/lib/modules/2.6.11-gentoo-r11/alsa-driver/acore/seq/snd-seq-midi-event.ko): Invalid module format
FATAL: Error inserting snd_seq_oss (/lib/modules/2.6.11-gentoo-r11/alsa-driver/acore/seq/oss/snd-seq-oss.ko): Invalid module format [ !! ]
* Loading: snd-pcm-oss ...
WARNING: Error inserting snd (/lib/modules/2.6.11-gentoo-r11/alsa-driver/acore/snd.ko): Invalid module format
WARNING: Error inserting snd_mixer_oss (/lib/modules/2.6.11-gentoo-r11/alsa-driver/acore/oss/snd-mixer-oss.ko): Invalid module format
WARNING: Error inserting snd_page_alloc (/lib/modules/2.6.11-gentoo-r11/alsa-driver/acore/snd-page-alloc.ko): Invalid module format
WARNING: Error inserting snd_timer (/lib/modules/2.6.11-gentoo-r11/alsa-driver/acore/snd-timer.ko): Invalid module format
WARNING: Error inserting snd_pcm (/lib/modules/2.6.11-gentoo-r11/alsa-driver/acore/snd-pcm.ko): Invalid module format
FATAL: Error inserting snd_pcm_oss (/lib/modules/2.6.11-gentoo-r11/alsa-driver/acore/oss/snd-pcm-oss.ko): Invalid module format [ !! ]
* Loading: snd-mixer-oss ...
WARNING: Error inserting snd (/lib/modules/2.6.11-gentoo-r11/alsa-driver/acore/snd.ko): Invalid module format
FATAL: Error inserting snd_mixer_oss (/lib/modules/2.6.11-gentoo-r11/alsa-driver/acore/oss/snd-mixer-oss.ko): Invalid module format [ !! ]
* Loading: snd-mixer-oss ...
WARNING: Error inserting snd (/lib/modules/2.6.11-gentoo-r11/alsa-driver/acore/snd.ko): Invalid module format
FATAL: Error inserting snd_mixer_oss (/lib/modules/2.6.11-gentoo-r11/alsa-driver/acore/oss/snd-mixer-oss.ko): Invalid module format [ !! ]
* Loading: snd-pcm-oss ...
WARNING: Error inserting snd (/lib/modules/2.6.11-gentoo-r11/alsa-driver/acore/snd.ko): Invalid module format
WARNING: Error inserting snd_mixer_oss (/lib/modules/2.6.11-gentoo-r11/alsa-driver/acore/oss/snd-mixer-oss.ko): Invalid module format
WARNING: Error inserting snd_page_alloc (/lib/modules/2.6.11-gentoo-r11/alsa-driver/acore/snd-page-alloc.ko): Invalid module format
WARNING: Error inserting snd_timer (/lib/modules/2.6.11-gentoo-r11/alsa-driver/acore/snd-timer.ko): Invalid module format
WARNING: Error inserting snd_pcm (/lib/modules/2.6.11-gentoo-r11/alsa-driver/acore/snd-pcm.ko): Invalid module format
FATAL: Error inserting snd_pcm_oss (/lib/modules/2.6.11-gentoo-r11/alsa-driver/acore/oss/snd-pcm-oss.ko): Invalid module format [ !! ]
* Loading: snd-seq ...
WARNING: Error inserting snd (/lib/modules/2.6.11-gentoo-r11/alsa-driver/acore/snd.ko): Invalid module format
WARNING: Error inserting snd_seq_device (/lib/modules/2.6.11-gentoo-r11/alsa-driver/acore/seq/snd-seq-device.ko): Invalid module format
WARNING: Error inserting snd_timer (/lib/modules/2.6.11-gentoo-r11/alsa-driver/acore/snd-timer.ko): Invalid module format
FATAL: Error inserting snd_seq (/lib/modules/2.6.11-gentoo-r11/alsa-driver/acore/seq/snd-seq.ko): Invalid module format [ !! ]
* Loading: snd-seq ...
WARNING: Error inserting snd (/lib/modules/2.6.11-gentoo-r11/alsa-driver/acore/snd.ko): Invalid module format
WARNING: Error inserting snd_seq_device (/lib/modules/2.6.11-gentoo-r11/alsa-driver/acore/seq/snd-seq-device.ko): Invalid module format
WARNING: Error inserting snd_timer (/lib/modules/2.6.11-gentoo-r11/alsa-driver/acore/snd-timer.ko): Invalid module format
FATAL: Error inserting snd_seq (/lib/modules/2.6.11-gentoo-r11/alsa-driver/acore/seq/snd-seq.ko): Invalid module format [ !! ]
* ERROR: Failed to load necessary drivers [ ok ]
* Restoring Mixer Levels ...
cat: /proc/asound/cards: No such file or directory [ ok ]
Setting default volumes...
It looks like everything's an invalid module.

I used the genkernel --menuconfig --udev all command to compile my kernel.
 
Old 07-06-2005, 03:12 PM   #8
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I'm not a genkernel user, so bear with me on some silly questions.
Are you using the kernel modules or the alsa-drivers modules?
If you're using alsa-drivers, what version?
Are the modules still listed in /etc/modules.autoload.d/<kernel version>?

For refernece - here's a working lsmod output using the same card
Code:
Module                  Size  Used by
savage                 33728  1 
drm                    66136  2 savage
snd_pcm_oss            50592  0 
snd_mixer_oss          18048  1 snd_pcm_oss
snd_seq_oss            32960  0 
snd_seq_midi_event      6592  1 snd_seq_oss
snd_seq                51536  4 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event
rtc                    11064  0 
snd_via82xx            23328  0 
snd_ac97_codec         74616  1 snd_via82xx
snd_pcm                85960  3 snd_pcm_oss,snd_via82xx,snd_ac97_codec
snd_timer              22660  2 snd_seq,snd_pcm
snd_page_alloc          7556  2 snd_via82xx,snd_pcm
snd_mpu401_uart         6400  1 snd_via82xx
snd_rawmidi            21216  1 snd_mpu401_uart
snd_seq_device          6860  3 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_rawmidi
snd                    47652  11 snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_via82xx,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_mpu401_uart,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_device
soundcore               7712  1 snd
8139too                21184  0 
via_agp                 7488  1 
agpgart                28712  2 drm,via_agp
video                  13828  0 
fan                     3140  0 
button                  4880  0 
ntfs                  104496  1
 
Old 07-06-2005, 03:38 PM   #9
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I'm using the kernel 2.6.11-gentoo-r11 kernel modules.
The modules are no longer listed in /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6

What modules should I add? It looks like I need:
snd_pcm_oss, snd_mixer_oss, snd_seq_oss, snd_seq_midi_event, snd_seq, snd_via82xx, snd_ac97_codec, snd_pcm, snd_timer, snd_page_alloc, snd_mpu401_uart, snd_rawmidi, snd_seq_device, and snd

Is that everything and do I need all of that?
 
Old 07-06-2005, 08:52 PM   #10
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it looks like you might need to un-emerge alsa-driver.
alsaconf is still trying to load modules from it apparently.
alsa-driver modules are in /lib/modules/2.6.11-gentoo-r11/alsa-driver
and
kernel modules are in /lib/modules/2.6.11-gentoo-r11/kernel/sound

Here's the steps I'd take now
emerge -Cp alsa-driver alsa-utils
IF /lib/modules/2.6.11-gentoo-r11/alsa-driver still exists:
mv -r /lib/modules/2.6.11-gentoo-r11/alsa-driver /root/2.6.11-gentoo-r11/alsa-driver

rebuild the kernel, and check that the kernel modules are in lib/modules/2.6.11-gentoo-r11/kernel/sound.
Use="oss" emerge -a alsa-utils
try alsaconf again.
 
Old 07-09-2005, 07:52 AM   #11
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Thank you!

ALSA now works perfectly!

Actually, my music sounds better than in Windows.
 
Old 07-09-2005, 01:12 PM   #12
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excellent! I'm glad you got it sorted out
 
Old 07-09-2005, 05:33 PM   #13
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Yeah. I'm now back into the habit of listening to my music every second of every minute of every hour of every day.

Not meaning to be a pain, but I have an non-linux-compatible (at least not yet, but I'm gonna help making a driver for it) Sony camera (DSC-P200). Do you happen to know how I can (cheaply) get the pictures off the Memory stick? I'm willing to spend up to $50, but the cheaper the better.
 
Old 07-09-2005, 08:32 PM   #14
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First thing to try with the camera , with the memory stick inserted, plug it into your PC and turn it on.
look at the last few lines of the output from dmesg.

there's a chance you can just mount the camera like a hard drive and grab the images right off the card, without spending a dime. Post the output from the end of the dmesg file and we'll have a look-see
 
Old 07-09-2005, 11:21 PM   #15
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Quote:
$ sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt/camera
Heh. Look at that. MY PICTURES!!!!!!!!!!! w00t!!!

Thanks!

any idea how to get it to show up in media:/ in konqueror?

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