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Old 03-11-2010, 07:05 AM   #1
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Question [Fedora 12] Not Able to Get to GDM After Upgrading Kernel to 2.6.32


Hi all,

i was previously using kernel version 2.6.31.12-174.2.22.fc12.i686.PAE.

In the past week or so, i updated to 2.6.32.9-67.fc12.i686.PAE, and when i rebooted, i got a garbled screen at the time when Plymouth was supposed to appear.

Doing some searching and reading seems to suggest that the issue lies with KMS.

So i tried using adding nomodeset at the grub menu:

Code:
kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.32.9-67.fc12.i686.PAE ro root=/dev/sda9  LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun16 KEYBOARDTYPE=pc KEYTABLE=us rhgb quiet nomodeset
Now i don't get Plymouth and also no garbled screen. But halfway along the text-based progress bar i get a black screen with a mouse cursor. The mouse cursor responds, but nothing else happens.

Another thing to add, yesterday there was another update to kernel vmlinuz-2.6.32.9-70.fc12.i686.PAE but the problem stays the same.

(i'm currently using the old 2.6.32.9-67.fc12.i686.PAE selected from grub menu as a workaround).

Any advice on how i can troubleshoot and solve this, please? Thanks much!



Regards,
Edwin
 
Old 03-11-2010, 07:17 AM   #2
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You could try using rdblacklist=nouveau instead of nomodeset

Are you using nvidia drivers ?
 
Old 03-11-2010, 07:58 AM   #3
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Hi smoker,

No, i'm not using nVidia drivers, using the nouveau ones.

Anyway,

Tried with rdblacklist=nouveau, resulted in text-based progress bar (i.e. no Plymouth), and a garbled screen halfway through.

Tried with rdblacklist=nouveau with nomodeset, resulted in text-bsed progress bar and black screen halfway through.



Thanks and Regards,
Edwin
 
Old 03-11-2010, 02:43 PM   #4
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If you are using nouveau, why would you blacklist the nouveau drivers? There have been many problems, especially with firmware etc with the new kernels. I have F12 running on a AMD 64 box and held off on update because of the dreaded 195.36 nvidia driver that was in the repo. That driver had been recalled by nvidia, so I held off, until the 190 driver was put back. But, if you happened to catch one of the xorg nvidia files that were also set to be updated it could be causing problems. Check and see if any of the xorg updates you did that night contain and 195.36 versions. You can also look in Xorg.0.log or messages or dmesg to see if you can find any revelant error messages.
 
Old 03-12-2010, 06:35 AM   #5
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Hi,

i'm definitely using nouveau drivers, NOT the nVidia ones (in fact, i had other problems with the nVidia drivers but that's for another day).

As to why blacklist nouveau... well i'm sort of at my wit's end so i'm just trying anything worth/feasible trying...

Any advice please?



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Old 03-12-2010, 07:56 AM   #6
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The best I can offer is what works for me, I have used this method :
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...ved-it-794476/

if there are or were ever any nvidia modules on the system.
Code:
yum remove nvidia-xconfig
import the rpmfusion repos
Code:
rpm -Uvh http://download1.rpmfusion.org/free/fedora/rpmfusion-free-release-stable.noarch.rpm http://download1.rpmfusion.org/nonfree/fedora/rpmfusion-nonfree-release-stable.noarch.rpm
install nvidia modules
Code:
yum install nvidia-xconfig kmod-nvidia-PAE.i686 xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-libs.i686 akmod-nvidia kernel-PAE-devel
and add the rdblacklist=nouveau to your kernel options.

Last edited by smoker; 03-12-2010 at 08:02 AM.
 
Old 03-12-2010, 03:58 PM   #7
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To get rid of all the nvidia blobs etc:
su
yum remove kmod-nvidia*
yum remove xorg-x11-drv-nvidia*
rm /etc/X11/xorg*
rm /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-nouveau.conf

and if you put rdblacklist=nouveau into the grub kernel line, get rid of it.

If you reboot after that nouveau should come up. If you truly need and xorg.conf if will be recreated during boot.

In Fedora 13 alpha I'm using nouveau drivers and getting 3D effects, no need for Nvidia blobs any more if you don't want them.
 
Old 03-13-2010, 11:46 AM   #8
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Hi,

Thanks smoker and GoinEasy9 for the suggestions.

i've had prior bad experience using nVidia driver on my machine so i guess i'll be trying out what GoinEasy9 suggested.

Just as a fallback though,

How can i get from grub to commandline without going in to X or GDM?



Thanks and Regards,
Edwin
 
Old 03-13-2010, 12:14 PM   #9
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When booting up, add a 3 to the end of kernel line at boot. It'll bring you straight to tty.
 
Old 03-13-2010, 12:36 PM   #10
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Thanks,

Unfortunately those 4 commands would not have any effect:

Code:
[root@mydesktop ~]# yum remove kmod-nvidia*
Loaded plugins: presto, refresh-packagekit
Setting up Remove Process
No Match for argument: kmod-nvidia*
Package(s) kmod-nvidia* available, but not installed.
No Packages marked for removal
[root@mydesktop ~]# yum remove xorg-x11-drv-nvidia*
Loaded plugins: presto, refresh-packagekit
Setting up Remove Process
No Match for argument: xorg-x11-drv-nvidia*
Package(s) xorg-x11-drv-nvidia* available, but not installed.
No Packages marked for removal
[root@mydesktop ~]# rm /etc/X11/xorg*
rm: cannot remove `/etc/X11/xorg*': No such file or directory
[root@mydesktop ~]# rm /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-nouveau.conf
rm: cannot remove `/etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-nouveau.conf': No such file or directory
i've read somewhere that some users came across a similar issue and managed to solve it by re-installing X-related libraries. i think it might be worthwhile to give it a go. However, they were talking about Ubuntu so i couldn't apply the solution directly on my system.

1. In the case of Fedora 12, what are the X-related files that i should be looking to re-install?

2. Neither yum nor rpm seems to have a reinstall option. How can i reinstall a library in Fedora?



Thanks and Regards,
Edwin
 
Old 03-13-2010, 01:00 PM   #11
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Try mesa-dri-drivers

yum does have a reinstall function

yum reinstall <packagename>

Last edited by GoinEasy9; 03-13-2010 at 01:01 PM.
 
Old 03-14-2010, 03:17 AM   #12
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UPDATE

Tried reinstalling
xorg-x11-drv-nouveau
xorg-x11-drv-nv
xorg-x11-server-common
xorg-x11-server-Xorg
xorg-x11-x11-xinit

Still no successs...



Regards,
Edwin
 
Old 03-14-2010, 04:30 PM   #13
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Try
yum install mesa-dri-drivers

It doesn't make sense, you should have some type of graphics by now.
I looked the thread over again, and didn't see what video card you are using, could you tell me that?
 
Old 03-15-2010, 07:30 AM   #14
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Hi GoinEasy9,

Sorry, forgot to mention:

1. i already have mesa-dri-drivers-7.7-4.fc12 installed.

2. i'm using a Asus 9500GT graphics card:

Code:
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GeForce 9500 GT (rev a1)


Thanks and Regards,
Edwin
 
Old 03-29-2010, 01:15 PM   #15
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I had a similar problem and got it working as described here.
 
  


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