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Old 06-28-2014, 06:29 AM   #46
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One day I made a commitment to learn linux as possible. I started with the commands and then shell scripting. And then, I was hooked for linux for life. No more microsoft and windows for me.
But how can you work using Linux? There are no softwares for Office. If you wanna co-work on xlsx, docx,... you simply cannot. Pics and graphics are also pain, since there are no adobe softs, Corel,...
 
Old 06-28-2014, 11:08 AM   #47
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But how can you work using Linux? There are no softwares for Office. If you wanna co-work on xlsx, docx,... you simply cannot. Pics and graphics are also pain, since there are no adobe softs, Corel,...
Is this meant to be some kind of FUD? While as an admin I prefer to give Windows to those that can't be bothered or just don't see that the little extra effort pays off with major dividends, to act as if it is impossible is just wrong. For many reasons I suppose, not just the OpSys, it has been my experience that the people with Linux workstations on average show greater productivity.

I really don't see that "pics and graphics" are a pain with the exception of some, actual high level professional photo and CAD work. Photos? a gif, jpeg, tiff, etc. is a gif, jpeg, tiff, etc on any OpSys. Most Vector Graphics formats are now decently supported in Linux and most of those can be handled by LibreOffice. Failing that, uploading to Google and downloading in whatever format you want is a workable solution. Almost all of this is rendered moot with use of VMs.

Even high level 3D graphics as well as the highest quality of all movie production and modification are recently more and more done on Linux machines, largely because each studio can customize it so completely. It doesn't hurt Linux that Mac was so thoroughly entrenched in some areas such as professional multimedia work and then "went BSD". It has been an important bridge and can only increase it's wedge effect.

That said, a valid argument can be made that highly specialized work is best done with applications and operating systems upon which the operator is experienced and comfortable but a dedicated box can solve that issue much how like a proper print server doesn't care whether the source is Windows, Mac, Linux, BSD, AIX, whatever.

The most annoying problems are manufactured on purpose to thwart competition a la Word, etc., where Microsoft chooses to become incompatible with earlier versions of itself. This has become a very important issue for business and governments who actually have docs that need to be accessed for decades. It may turn out that this was joyful for MS for a time but will end up with a nasty hangover, akin to shooting oneself in the foot to avoid a muscle cramp from running. Making your home so burglar proof that even you can't get in is demonstrably a non-solution, not just a bad one.

Microsoft and it's proprietary ways are not likely to disappear anytime soon, but the inherent limitations of such a "closed shop" and conversely, the power, configurability, and sheer freedom of FOSS can only gather and grow as computing continues to become everywhere on everything, but especially in Business. The Cathedral and the Bazaar is more true and accurate now than when it was written. Additionally, it seems that MS is well aware of this inherent nature with true PCs. This may be why MS was willing to aggravate and alienate such a huge number of it's own supporters by biasing consumer level Windows to touchscreen with v8. Also witness how short-lived Silverlight was. The writing is "on the wall" and surprise, surprise it isn't in MS Word format.

In the not too distant future Operating Systems will be inconspicuous. IMHO, Computers will be like steam engines that don't care what fuel you burn to supply the heat. All that will matter is "there's an app for that". I'd be willing to bet that most Android users haven't any clue they're running Linux.

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Old 06-28-2014, 11:48 AM   #48
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But how can you work using Linux? There are no softwares for Office. If you wanna co-work on xlsx, docx,... you simply cannot. Pics and graphics are also pain, since there are no adobe softs, Corel,...
Some companies actually standardize on LibreOffice, you know. You can also agree to use common formats such as PDF (for viewing) and ODT, the latter which MS Office works perfectly with.

Most jobs do not legitimately require high-end, professionally priced graphics software like those Adobe or Corel make. If you or your company didn't pay for them, you didn't need them.

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Old 06-28-2014, 12:53 PM   #49
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In my haste to respond to a tangent, I neglected to attempt to answer the OP questions. So here goes ---

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1. How difficult do you find learning linux?
Qualified answer - not difficult. It's big and deep so it is an ongoing process but because it is based on Unix, such a seminal system that was required to keep it simple if only from lack of hardware to support complex, but also because it was essentially ground-up built for networking and interaction, things just are direct and make sense and are not thwarted by any need to hide anything from an admin. Therefore knowledge and experience accrue. Most of what I learned 5, 10, even 15 years ago still works, so a tipping point is reached and "the lights go on". By contrast, much of what worked in WFW 3.11 doesn't work in Win8.


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2. Why are you learning linux? Are you trying to get a career using linux?
Initially I began learning Linux when IBM announced EOL for OS/2. I didn't expect it could become a career but it did.

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3. Did you take any classes? If, so what did you like about them? What could be improved?
Not formally but I did often "get schooled" on IRC. If those count as classes then I would say that the more closely, in time, "hands on" is to theory the quicker and deeper is the recognition. Simultaneous is superb.

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4. Did you purchase any books or other material to help you? Roughly how many?
Yes! It is difficult to quantify since so many of the books were multi-purposed in that they applied to Computing in general as well as specific to Linux. Also, it continues. I still buy books albeit mostly updated versions that include new additions

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5. How have you practiced what you've learned?
Yes but I do require reference and refreshing from time to time. Conversely some things are deprecated so those "die on the vine".

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6. Have you taken any tests or certifications to gauge your progress or certify your knowledge?
Yes.

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7. Have you watched any screencasts on linux topics? Would screencasts be helpful for you in learning more about linux?
Yes, I do and, Yes, they are. I watch http://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/t...x-action-show/ fairly regularly, google for specific YouTube shows for others and listen to a few podcasts. http://goinglinux.com/ a little more than others.

Best Wishes for Good Fortune with your project.
 
Old 06-28-2014, 02:01 PM   #50
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Learning linux was easy for example the commands, shell scripting and using GUI applications.

The only difficulty I had with linux at the beginning was compiling source code. Some were as easy as 1-2-3, while others, you had to cross your fingers and hope you don't get a make error message.

I don't get to much practice compiling source code because many distros now use pre-built binaries via the repositories. I believe distros like slackware, gentoo and LFS still rely mostly on tar ball installations.

That said, linux is awesome!!!
 
Old 06-30-2014, 06:42 AM   #51
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But how can you work using Linux? There are no softwares for Office. If you wanna co-work on xlsx, docx,... you simply cannot. Pics and graphics are also pain, since there are no adobe softs, Corel,...
What?!? That's all I DO. I'm on Linux right now, browsing and reading email, I develop code with it, I edit graphics for GUI based projects with it, I write documents, spreadsheets, and presentations with it. I'm the Linux guy at my company and am responsible for a variety of products which are based off of Linux. At home I use it for my normal web access as well as entertainment.

As far as documents and spreadsheets; I have no problems working with those using Linux document tools. We purchased Photoshop in order to view and edit graphics made for a project by an artist and it turns out that gimp is fine for manipulating those files as well as photoshop; and they're not simple one layer files either.
 
Old 06-30-2014, 11:22 AM   #52
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I don't know if it is still maintained but 5-6 years ago there was a version of GIMP that was "spun" to have more of a look and feel of Photoshop.... similar menues and naming conventions etc.
 
  


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