LinuxQuestions.org
Review your favorite Linux distribution.
Go Back   LinuxQuestions.org > Forums > Linux Forums > Linux - General
User Name
Password
Linux - General This Linux forum is for general Linux questions and discussion.
If it is Linux Related and doesn't seem to fit in any other forum then this is the place.

Notices


Reply
  Search this Thread
Old 06-01-2004, 09:28 PM   #1
3.1416
LQ Newbie
 
Registered: Jan 2003
Location: Berlin NH USA
Distribution: debian, redhat, others
Posts: 12

Rep: Reputation: 0
WinXP computer--modify for Linux


I just receive a well intentioned surprise gift of a Northgate computer that was recently on sale at Staples. Northgate says they haven't tested it as a Linux compatible system (they all say that even if it may be compatible) but I have installed KNOPPIX on the hard drive and it appears to work fine except there is no sound and the modem cannot be found in Linux. It has integrated sound and the modem is an Agere PCI winmodem. I don't have information about the motherboard chip set.

I'm thinking of adding an external modem although I would prefer a PCI type and possibly a sound card.

Does anyone have any advice about converting this computer to linux compatibility ---- type of external modem (USB or serial, which one preferred) or internal PCI card modem, PCI sound card, secret chant?

Are there some computers that just cannot be converted to full Linux compatibility even though Linux works perfectly except for modem and sound with the computer in its original configuration?
 
Old 06-01-2004, 10:01 PM   #2
bruno buys
Senior Member
 
Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Rio
Distribution: Debian
Posts: 1,509

Rep: Reputation: 46
*********
Does anyone have any advice about converting this computer to linux compatibility ---- type of external modem (USB or serial, which one preferred) or internal PCI card modem, PCI sound card, secret chant?
*********

A PCI hardmodem is a good choice. It has to be a hardmodem, with a dsp chip and stuff.
A win-modem can be converted to work with linux, but it's a pain. I did it once, and may the force never have me do this again. To make a win-modem work with linux you'll have to compile drivers for your kernel. To do this, you'll have to have the kernel-sources installed.

For sound, any sblive will do.

********
Are there some computers that just cannot be converted to full Linux compatibility even though Linux works perfectly except for modem and sound with the computer in its original configuration?
********

Better put: there are problematic hardware. If a computer has a lot of problematic hardware, the setup will be a pain.

Rules of thumb:

Onboard=bad
Offboard=good

Softmodem=bad
Hardmodem=good

ATI=bad
Nvidia=good

Try to look for more info on the hcl (hw compatibility list) in this site. If you succeed in making a piece of hardware work, remember to add it to the base, so that more people can benefit from it.
there are other hcl around, too. google is your friend.


Good luck!

Last edited by bruno buys; 06-01-2004 at 10:10 PM.
 
Old 06-02-2004, 09:15 AM   #3
3.1416
LQ Newbie
 
Registered: Jan 2003
Location: Berlin NH USA
Distribution: debian, redhat, others
Posts: 12

Original Poster
Rep: Reputation: 0
Hardware Compatibility Lists don't seem to have info about some of the newer devices, probably because they depend on reports from users---about the only way seems to be--- follow rules of thumb.

I checked out the specs of several external dialup modems and some omit
Linux in the list of operating systems they'll work with and some don't make any mention of an operating system I was under the impression that any external modem will work in Linux and all you need to do is decide whether it should be USB or serial port connected.
 
Old 06-02-2004, 09:35 AM   #4
Mathieu
Senior Member
 
Registered: Feb 2001
Location: Montreal, Quebec, Canada
Distribution: RedHat, Fedora, CentOS, SUSE
Posts: 1,403

Rep: Reputation: 46
Since I haven't used a modem in a long time, I can't help you with the installation
However, I suggest you read this LQ article concerning winmodems. It may help you with the setup of a Linmodem.
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...ticle&artid=34

More links.
http://www.linmodems.org/
http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Winmodems-...nux-HOWTO.html


Quote:
ATI=bad
Nvidia=good
I have to disagree on this point, I have an ATI 9600 Pro and the ATI proprietary module (driver) works quite well.
Althoug Nvidia is one step in front of ATI, ATI is still a good choice for Linux.
 
Old 06-02-2004, 10:45 PM   #5
DavidPhillips
LQ Guru
 
Registered: Jun 2001
Location: South Alabama
Distribution: Fedora / RedHat / SuSE
Posts: 7,163

Rep: Reputation: 58
My ATI 9600 XT works great as well. I can play one mean game of Tuxracer.
 
Old 06-03-2004, 08:06 AM   #6
bruno buys
Senior Member
 
Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Rio
Distribution: Debian
Posts: 1,509

Rep: Reputation: 46
******
I checked out the specs of several external dialup modems and some omit
Linux in the list of operating systems they'll work with and some don't make any mention of an operating system...
******

This is very common. Some vendors donīt even know their product work under linux, others donīt even know there is linux.
Whoever vendor who knows the product works under linux may also fear reporting it, cause he believes he may need to provide support for it.

So, to know if a product works under linux you have to rely on the community, on the (outdated) hclīs or in some friend who could do the job.
 
Old 06-08-2004, 01:33 PM   #7
Mal_Function
LQ Newbie
 
Registered: Jun 2004
Posts: 4

Rep: Reputation: 0
For what it's worth, I'd go with a Zoom external serial modem. I have one and it had no issues with linux (mandrake 7.0, 9.0 and Suse 9.1). You may have to play around a little to point linux to the port to find it on (I think something like /dev/ttys0 ... not absolutey sure...I just know it's not on /dev/modem on my system. Don't worry, you'll find it)
Anyway, heres the modem I have (or close enough...I bought mine a few yrs back
http://www.zoom.com/products/dial_up...al_serial.html
 
Old 06-08-2004, 01:34 PM   #8
Mal_Function
LQ Newbie
 
Registered: Jun 2004
Posts: 4

Rep: Reputation: 0
sorry, should have specified the model I have...
Model 3049 - PC V.92 56K Modem
 
Old 06-08-2004, 06:15 PM   #9
Dag
LQ Newbie
 
Registered: Jun 2004
Posts: 26

Rep: Reputation: 15
I don't know the secret chant yet, but I'm getting there. I can tell you that screaming WORK, $*#)@$ doesn't help.
 
Old 06-08-2004, 08:46 PM   #10
3.1416
LQ Newbie
 
Registered: Jan 2003
Location: Berlin NH USA
Distribution: debian, redhat, others
Posts: 12

Original Poster
Rep: Reputation: 0
The secret chant doesn't work so I'm getting a Zoom 3049 serial external modem.
 
  


Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
SUSE 9.1 Personal, Can't Network with WinXP Computer Mrrrr. Nice Guy Linux - Wireless Networking 3 11-20-2004 12:12 PM
Is there a way to modify/edit/erase a file in a WinXP partition from within Linux? aixarat Linux - Newbie 8 09-25-2004 11:07 PM
ICS setup help! (WinXP to Mandrake 10 computer) mike8994 Linux - Networking 6 08-16-2004 10:59 AM
modify file access & modify timestamps i2itstud Linux - General 1 05-20-2003 03:34 AM
Networking a Linux and a WinXP computer. JonnyL Linux - Newbie 4 03-09-2003 06:06 PM

LinuxQuestions.org > Forums > Linux Forums > Linux - General

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:08 PM.

Main Menu
Advertisement
My LQ
Write for LQ
LinuxQuestions.org is looking for people interested in writing Editorials, Articles, Reviews, and more. If you'd like to contribute content, let us know.
Main Menu
Syndicate
RSS1  Latest Threads
RSS1  LQ News
Twitter: @linuxquestions
Facebook: linuxquestions Google+: linuxquestions
Open Source Consulting | Domain Registration