Why use a Desktop Environment?
 

I dont see the point in using one... why do people use kde/gnome?
why not just run bb, e, ice, etc by itself?
all you need is qt, gtk widgets.
why do people use them?

because it's not the '70's anymore.

Because people feel the need to be inidated in complexity and problems. If there system isn't crashing every five minutes, something is wrong (esspecially if it doesn't look like a Microsoft product). So therefor we have Gnome and KDE to thank for that. :D :D :D

i don't use them.. but use XFce... and only tend to use it when I want to look at graphics ( make as well ), and the web and maybe typing using abiword... everything else tends to stay command line..

What are you using on LFS trickykid?

actually i was using XFce but my LFS I am trying to find the time to restart as its just blank partitions, trying to totally customize this time on my LFS, creating the partitions instead of using one large partition to start out with. until I start it up again hopefully tomorrow on my day off.. but most likely I will use XFce again and probably GNOME..

I think I will try Xfce on mine

I am compiling glibc now, got a ways to go.

I only have three partitions for mine

I use WindowMaker, and in my opinion the only thing that beats that is black box. I would use BB all the time, cept I don't have the time to set it all up how I would like. It's much easier to setup WM.
The fact that you can just click on the desktop to get a menu is nice, rather than always heading off with the mouse to get to the 'start' menu. Who needs to waste screen space with a task bar?

for those taskbar lovers, you can still have one in wmaker if you want.

ha ha ha

BTW I use enlightenment with a nice GNOME panel

el_felipe

Im never really sure what 'desktop enviroment' means. I think it is just a window manager, using a particular widget set and some applications that come with it.

Anyway i use blackbox on low end systems and gnome/sawfish on faster machines, because i just love the gnome panel and gtk+.

I have a few I'm trying on LFS now

wmaker
xfce
mwm
twm


there all pretty fast


I want to get CDE but I guess it's not free:rolleyes:


gotta get black box, the sites been down



thinking about gnome

You mention getting blackbox, have you tried fluxbox?

not yet


:)

OK now I do,


Add fluxbox to the list

help me gamesmaster
 

hmm, didn't think about this really, but now i do, and seeing how that for some reason gnome takes a HUGE amount of tiem to load (after X is finsihed.. something to do with mandrake being a bit process happy i think). I guess all i got out of actually using gnome was... well, desktop icons. but then i never use them anyway, so i wondered why i didn't just go and use a simple WM instead. the only one i think's worth a look in being black/fluxbox. Maybe i'll go back to gnome if i find a reason to do so, but right now i can't think of one really...

i've gone back to blackbox from fluxbox this morning, as it seems fluxbox isn't actaully nearly as good as it's meant to be, as i'ev been trying to use it with a dualheaded X, and it screws up, whereas the brandnew blackbox is fine.

It does take some fiddling with (thigns like bbconf come in handy tho for menu editing) but i've got back to setting things runnign in ~/.xinitrc (bbkeys etc...) and I just hink you get left with a much more rock solid system. maybe there's no difference, but it's nice to know that the thigs you're loading are set in stone in a sense.

and dacid, that alug site is screwed, but you can still get bb 0.62 from elsewhere... http://sourceforge.net/projects/blackboxwm

i use my minutely edited version Nyz style btw, and i think it just looks so cool, which is a really important thing to me if you're gonna eb using just a simple WM instead of gnome etc...

IS there any reason to use flux over black once i've got bbkeys loaded? any thoughts david? using bb i can also use random backgrounds and such, which i like, cos i'm a loser.

I only got fluxbox,

But I really like xfce now.

It has a lot in it .


I've also been looking at mwm and fvwm, but xfce is the best.

I don't think I need gnome but mybe when I get around to it I'll put it on my LFS.


http://www.plig.org/xwinman

you speak fish?
 

eww.. it's hideous!! but then you seemed to want to use CDE and EVERYONE knows that sucks!

But it gives you such an "adminitrative" feel of power ... :D (I'm joking..)

It depends on what you have to run it on.


Kde and even gnome run very slow on a P100


whereas the lighter ones run fast. And it's really the Apps I'm trying to run not the Window Manager.

CDE runs good on a sparc 5


I think as far as control goes they all seem to have about the same amount of that.



But I am using wmaker now on my laptop, and it will run any window manager smoothly.