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04-29-2005, 02:29 AM
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why text based tools are still using
hai friends
Linux has a best Gui. but now also many users use text based tools . why users prefer this. and what are the advantages
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04-29-2005, 02:30 AM
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Registered: Jun 2001
Location: UK
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normally it's quicker and easier, after the initial learning curve is dealt with.
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04-29-2005, 02:34 AM
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what are the tools available now
can u give me a list of such tools
and whether there exists a text based tool for find
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04-29-2005, 03:44 AM
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A comprehensive list of CLI tools would take weeks!
Try "find" or "locate" to find things.
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04-29-2005, 03:51 AM
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Remember, most tools in the GUI started out as CLI commands ... most are still available (and used!) as such by many.
A quick, off the top of my head, reason is that there's no reason to install a GUI on servers you'll be accessing either locally or remotely; gotta do it all "by hand."
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04-29-2005, 04:21 AM
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1) How many operations have u to do in GUI for to open "~/.bashrc"? I think more then just type "vim ~./bashrc", of course if u often use TAB.
2) Have you ever read interesting text in TUI? Isn't it more comfortable for ur eyes? I think so.
3) I like to use ALT+ARROW_KEY rather then ALT+TAB cuz i don't like overlapping windows 
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04-29-2005, 06:06 AM
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What about the blind? They just need this stupid machine called PC to work...
GUI is only for... prettyness. It's actually no use.
Eg, I'm looking for any free app that can work with Ext3/ReiserFS. I don't care about how it looks, I only want to partition my HDD. But... So far I found NO ONE! Only PM and other commercial apps.
I think Linux developers would better care of THE QUALITY of apps rather than of their appearance...
Last edited by kornerr; 04-29-2005 at 06:14 AM.
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04-29-2005, 06:14 AM
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Registered: Aug 2001
Location: Fargo, ND
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Many of the utility programs for the console were written by GNU as a group. Check out the info pages for 'coreutils'. You can enter
info:coreutils
in the Konqueror address bar for a better looking manual.
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04-29-2005, 01:56 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by kornerr
What about the blind? They just need this stupid machine called PC to work...
GUI is only for... prettyness. It's actually no use.
Eg, I'm looking for any free app that can work with Ext3/ReiserFS. I don't care about how it looks, I only want to partition my HDD. But... So far I found NO ONE! Only PM and other commercial apps.
I think Linux developers would better care of THE QUALITY of apps rather than of their appearance...
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Use parted, it's command line based and there's also QTParted a GUI equivalent.
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04-30-2005, 12:29 AM
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PARTED WORKS ONLY WITH EXT2 AND FAT32. IT'S REALLY STUPID!!!
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04-30-2005, 12:46 AM
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Registered: Jan 2001
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Quote:
Originally posted by kornerr
PARTED WORKS ONLY WITH EXT2 AND FAT32. IT'S REALLY STUPID!!!
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How about toning it down some, there's no need to yell!
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04-30-2005, 02:05 AM
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you fdisk to partition.
and no partition tool should be file system dependent, if they exist, they should be banished to null.
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04-30-2005, 06:04 AM
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Quote:
Originally posted by kornerr
PARTED WORKS ONLY WITH EXT2 AND FAT32. IT'S REALLY STUPID!!!
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Not according to the homepage:
http://www.gnu.org/software/parted/parted.html
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04-30-2005, 07:39 AM
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But according to its real facilities 
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04-30-2005, 08:15 AM
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Re: why text based tools are still using
Quote:
Originally posted by mili
hai friends
Linux has a best Gui. but now also many users use text based tools . why users prefer this. and what are the advantages
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One of the big reasons, that hasn't been mentioned yet: Automation. When I need to repeatedly do the same thing many times (maybe once a day, everyday), it is best to automate that job. This is one area where text based tools shine. You want them running in the background without needing to get any user input or throw up a window of text.
How about easily redirected output? You can pipe your output through sed, awk, sort, nl, or any of a multitude of programs to manipulate it into the exact format you want. Programming the same capabilities into a graphical frontend usually results in huge and complicated interfaces (to deal with the many layers of indirection and all the options and possible inputs) or severely hampered interaction.
There are other reasons as well, even when these two primary reasons don't come into play. For example, I value my screen real-estate. If I want to see the value of something or execute a command then I want to do that without a new window I will just be reaching for the mouse to close in 5 seconds anyway. The information stays for exactly as long as I need it and then requires no effort for me to move on to the next action I want to perform.
If I was using a graphical tool, at the very least I would have to close it when I was finished. It would also take me longer depending on where the menu to select it was located, where the window itself appeared, and how it wanted me to enter or select options. So, throw time in there as well. For the vast majority of things I do... it is far quicker to type the few characters needed to get it done than it would be to open anything from a menu.
Just some of my reasons... there are more and everyone has their own personal reasons for doing things.
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