Why not build WINE into all distros?
 

Why isn't WINE built into linux , BSD, and BeOS these days?


-Rob

because it's generally pants.... and irrelevant, and generally totally misses the point of using something that isn't windows, when all you weant to do is pretend you are using it...

i think rather than asking "why not", ask "why"

Oh well, in that case I should have asked why not make Linux more complicated and buggy! I dont think it such a bad idea to add wine since many popular programs are still uncompatible with Linux for the time being.

and most win programs are still uncompatable with wine.

What do you use Wine for? Now that I've dumped all Windows from my machines, the only thing that I can't do is sync my pocket computers (1 Psion and 1 Windows CE). I strongly suspect that the sync software doesn't work in Wine since it needs access to the serial ports.

For all other needs, I've found equivalent or superior software under Linux.

Martin

this is such a stupid stupid stupid thing to say, but i'm gonna say it anyway.... if you really think that then you do not understand linux enough to say what you have... when you do know linux properly i promise you totally you will have changed your opinion totally.

you know, i could have bought a boat, and put two axles through the hull and a steering wheel and driven along a road...(and been arrested!) but instead a bought a car... stupid analogy, but it's late.

the point of this being....? i could give you a damn good list of programs i would like to see ported to windows.....

the programs detailed in that thread are generally results of substantial amounts of cash and man hours for the firm... and the fact that they currently only work on windows is utterly besides the point in the context you are trying to use it.

obviously I can't speak for them, but i'd be pretty sure that even the wine developers would not want this to happen.

Building or including wine in Linux would be like Microsoft bundling Mozilla with their OS. I really don't see the demand or need to yet, add another program to support other programs that don't run natively in Linux. Seems like a waste of space to me as I would rather save the time and resources for distro's to focus on making their distro better, adding better applications and so on.

My two cents.

4get wine and just add other programs that can run in both windows and linux, java comes to mind here (makes a few good internet games, altho kinda lagy and bad graphics :) ), if people want wine then they should have to add it sepratly or at elast tell the dirstro installer that they want it included, but it should not be included by defualt cuse its realy pointless, why move to a difrent OS just to use programs from another OS? (i know there is a need to do so in some casees (games, special businses programs ,etc), but you dont need to add more pointless software to a system wich has like 10,000 utils that most people never know what they do and like 500 tehy wil never use, and so teh distro will enver use)

Thats totally a bad analogy but I get it.

yes im new to linux. I would like the confort of programs im familiar with till I really understand linux and other OS's since they're not as user freindly as windows.

Anyone know of a good substitue for dreamweaver?

I do all my web pages using nothing more than a text editor. on Wintel machines (work) I use Notepad or DOS editor. and on Linux, I use VIM.

Whilst it seems very restrictive, I find that using a package like Dreamweaver adds bloat code to the HTML which takes up valuable space on the server.

It is obviously less user friendly, but for streamlined HTML coding there is nothing better.

For a more user friendly alternative try Openoffice.org.

I use kwrite as a replacement to Dreamweaver. Yeah it lacks some of the features but it has a few DW lacks, like pattern matching on syntax. If you click on the opening { in an if statement (php), the end } will also highlight. I cannot tell you how much time that has saved me in debugging my scripts.

OMG I just a mental picture of kewpie driving a boat erratically down a street and for some reason singing the theme song to Gilligan's Island.

;)

On Windows, I use Notepad. In Linux, I use any text editor I'm in the mood to use. It means, it's usually KWrite or Pico.