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Dreamingwolf 03-08-2019 12:23 PM
The install command from my setup script for use on generic installs I use for testing:

$InCommand pass ruby qrencode tk firefox thunderbird p7zip smplayer smplayer-themes smtube youtube-dl mplayer \
python-pyqt5 drkonqi flite kwalletmanager kio-extras kdoctools catdoc kdeconnect sox dvdauthor dvgrab recordmydesktop \
simplescreenrecorder xine-ui dvd+rw-tools vcdimager cdrdao transcode suckless-tools luajit python-opengl clang botan kde-cli-tools \
gnome-boxes virtualbox-6.0 sublime-text sublime-merge neofetch steam gimp obs-studio lutris hexchat shotwell audacity guvcview catfish \
grub-customizer rawtherapee kipi-plugins kamera kdegraphics-mobipocket calligra pstoedit \
fusesmb samba cifs-utils exfat-utils engrampa arj lzip unrar unace darktable gwenview inkscape okular skanlite hplip xsane \
openshot simplescreenrecorder shellcheck unixodbc redshift numlockx variety \
gv ebtables bridge-utils radvd ceph terminator zsh

lhb1142 03-08-2019 01:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by colinetsegers (Post 5971581)
Although I'm a real Linux fan, and although this is a little out of topic, I do not agree with your statement that installing programs in Linux is easier than in other operating systems.
The command line is, no doubt, a very powerful tool, but before the user knows the basic vocabulary, a lot of time will have past by. Then, the famous commands: "configure", "make", "make install"..., there's nearly always something missing to have the installation done and working ! Even with Synaptics, due to hidden and/or unclear updates, installing a program ends often in a message the kind of: "could not this, because that..." First thing is discovering the "that" thing... In short: good luck my friend !

I'm convinced that Linux operating systems lack some plain installer. I mean that after downloading a program, some plain script just installs the program with all the necessary extensions without having to use synaptics or the command line. And yes, I know the practical problem of the many different configurations of all those Linux systems.

I'll not belabor this discussion (this will be my last word on it because, as you said, it is somewhat off-topic) but I find that, for example within MX Linux, you just go to MX Tools and click on the Package Installer and you can easily find what you want. On Arch-based distros, you just open the Package Manager and open the Search Box and find what you want. Not sure what you might want? Just type in the search box Audio, or Video, or Sound, etc. and the choices available to you will instantly appear.


The Terminal is the easiest way to install programs if you know their names, but, if you do not, searching in the various installation tools offered by the various distros works very well indeed.


IN MY OPINION (mine only), this is far easier and better than anything Windows or Mac offers.


I'm sorry for prolonging this and I'll now shut up!

colinetsegers 03-08-2019 05:42 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by lhb1142 (Post 5971791)
I'll not belabor this discussion (this will be my last word on it because, as you said, it is somewhat off-topic) but I find that, for example within MX Linux, you just go to MX Tools and click on the Package Installer and you can easily find what you want. On Arch-based distros, you just open the Package Manager and open the Search Box and find what you want. Not sure what you might want? Just type in the search box Audio, or Video, or Sound, etc. and the choices available to you will instantly appear.

The Terminal is the easiest way to install programs if you know their names, but, if you do not, searching in the various installation tools offered by the various distros works very well indeed.

IN MY OPINION (mine only), this is far easier and better than anything Windows or Mac offers.

I'm sorry for prolonging this and I'll now shut up!
You're right, and no need to be sorry. Be sure I do respect your opinion, and I'm aware that notions such as "easy" and "difficult" are very subjective. The more we use and study a system, the more easy it seems... Cheers and best wishes !

gael33 03-09-2019 04:52 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ted-tanner (Post 5971285)
I have a .sh file I run on all new systems that installs all the software I typically use. Here are the contents of that .sh:

Code:
sudo apt-get -y update;
sudo apt-get -y dist-upgrade;
sudo apt-get -y install google-chrome-stable;
sudo apt-get -y install gcc;
sudo apt-get -y install g++;
sudo apt-get -y install gfortran;
sudo apt-get -y install make;
sudo apt-get -y install cmake;
sudo apt-get -y install default-jre;
sudo apt-get -y install default-jdk;
sudo apt-get -y install p7zip-full;
sudo apt-get -y install gparted;
sudo apt-get -y install geany;
sudo apt-get -y install python;
sudo apt-get -y install python3.3;
sudo apt-get -y install php;
sudo apt-get -y install snap;
sudo apt-get -y install wine-stable;
sudo apt-get -y install gimp;
sudo apt-get -y install octave;
sudo apt-get -y install kalgebra;
sudo apt-get -y install kmplot;
sudo apt-get -y install geda;
sudo apt-get -y install libreoffice;
sudo apt-get -y install 2048-qt;
sudo apt-get -y install texlive-full;
sudo apt-get -y install texstudio;
sudo snap install shotcut --classic;
sudo snap install spotify;
sudo apt-get -y install dropbox;
That's a very interesting post. Tell us, you say you have a .sh file, did you create that file yourself? If yes, please tell other people how you did it. Having a .sh file with all the personal software commands is uber convenient. I look forward to your reply. gael.

lionpet 03-09-2019 06:07 AM
Installations priority
 
after adding the basics as support for scanner, printer if needed i will install
gparted
Firefox web browser
open office
VLC Media player
Audacity
Mediathek
Alarm Clock

Kind regards lionpet

Boatssun 03-09-2019 11:28 AM
First install
 
When I first install Linux I like to update first. In the year that I have been working with Linux, it appears to me that this solves over 75% of software and hardware difficulties.

Printer

then games.

linq 03-10-2019 05:12 PM
LibreOffice

Germany_chris 03-11-2019 12:31 PM
Google Chrome

Everything else is installed when I need it.

SaabGripen 03-11-2019 11:01 PM
Slimjet browser, Evince, Glances, moreutils, wxHexEditor, Smplayer, Genius, Claws mail, Gpicview, Generic monitor plugin for xfce, p7z, ucview/guvcview, spacefm, youtube-dl, wicd, wine, unrar, ffmpeg, stardict, galculator, read-edid, wps-office, tor browser, slapt-get, fonts (hack, cantarell, roboto), themes, xcalib. Other software depends on what I need on the moment (JDK, python etc.).

ben2talk 03-12-2019 10:42 AM
Well I'm a sucker for eyecandy and simplicity...

Terminal first - I start with apt-fast, then Guake and get my .bashrc from Dropbox...

Then run 'up' (alias up='sudo apt-fast update && sudo apt-fast upgrade')
Install Dropbox to get my Admin/scripts and conky synchronised whilst I install variety (set up for desktop clock and a gorgeous fresh paper every minute)... set panel to auto-hide.

Next we start enabling the mouse power by getting gestures up and running (easygesture) and my own theme (edited for smaller titlebars, as I use gestures and thumb buttons to move/size/close windows, draw 'P' for F4 (panel) etc (works nicely with Nemo too) as well as launch lots of new ones...).

I love Materia theme but it's too dark - and colours are over-rated. Check out Equilux compact (shades of medium grey).. better and easy on the eyes (not too dark)

Then there's 'Ultimate-dark' basically rip-offs with a bit of colour which is a perfect balance but with sucky metacity-1 folders. I edited and messed with Metacity-1, also with Ultimate-Dark and Equilux compact... So I grab my own butchered theme 'Ben's Blue' for a slightly powdery blue highlight version of those with the Equilux metacity edited to hug the font (set the titlebar font to 0 and it's miniscule but no visible title... font 8 gives me a bar half the size of Equilux-compact which is great for tiling windows).


Conky set up to switch with Variety on a hot corner. Plex server, Deluge, Plex media player appimage; MPV player.

Mailspring is very cool.

Darktable - best photo editor (not replacing GIMP but different, more advanced for photos).

Browsers - Vivaldi sits alongside Firefox and Chromium
Odio for radio, though I generally go via web (like BBC 'sounds' chromium app shortcut... app shortcuts for tons of web stuff, maps n mail).

Calibre helps me keep my reader stuffed (reading>computer time is my target).

Musicbrainz Picard moves my music to mnt/T4/Music/Picard watched by Banshee.

ben2talk 03-12-2019 10:59 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by lhb1142 (Post 5971791)
I'll not belabor this discussion (this will be my last word on it because, as you said, it is somewhat off-topic) but I find that, for example within MX Linux, you just go to MX Tools and click on the Package Installer and you can easily find what you want. On Arch-based distros, you just open the Package Manager and open the Search Box and find what you want. Not sure what you might want? Just type in the search box Audio, or Video, or Sound, etc. and the choices available to you will instantly appear.


The Terminal is the easiest way to install programs if you know their names, but, if you do not, searching in the various installation tools offered by the various distros works very well indeed.


IN MY OPINION (mine only), this is far easier and better than anything Windows or Mac offers.


I'm sorry for prolonging this and I'll now shut up!
ROFL - for the stuff available via package manager this is great - but sometimes it's a little outdated, then you'll need to look at repositories, or grab an appimage (Plex Media Player) or maybe a Flatpak.. also SNAP can often offer packages not available any other way. GIMP installed two ways gives me two launch icons and it's not quite so straightforward to see which is which... so you can easily get headaches.

Then you have an issue or a freeze when installing and your package manager has an error which you can't fix.

So it's not always easy - though using Mint with the Timeshift snapshots backing me up I'm feeling very much more confident that I can't really break it enough to warrant a reinstallation (something that happened a few times between 2007 and now).

Using anything for a few years makes you think it's simple - whilst you are actually quite expert. I remember hearing questions about Windows (I used to answer questions in Yahoo Answers) and firing back a list of the latest and greatest fixes and anti-malware solutions... completely outdated within 6 months of switching to Ubuntu in '07 (Jeez what a shock realising you have no internet connection and no way to connect because linux won't work with your hardware... even now you can't just buy a bluetooth dongle and plug it in!!!).

rokyo 03-12-2019 03:03 PM
sudo apt install htop, bmon, iftop, lsd

thim 03-13-2019 04:10 AM
Start from a full Slackware installation. Then i add (apart from libraries): libreoffice, vlc, rawtherapee, lyx, geany, vivaldi (some of my most used programs) . Also, openbox and it's companions: obmenu, obxonf, lxappearance, nitrogen, tint2, okbey, obshutdown, openbox-themes. Another additions: qbittorrent, calibre.
Now, from time to time i may install or try something else, out of curiosity or for a specific purpose (eg picard, dosbox, wesnoth, gnu R, extra themes).

sleepee 03-13-2019 04:25 PM
Regardless of the horsepower that the desktop has, and regardless of desktop environment, nowadays I always install these applications first:

snapd
keepassx
nextcloud-client
telegram
signal-desktop
vscode
tilix
nmap
git
chromium-browser
vlc

Basically, those are the applications I use almost on a daily basis, so I need them on any desktop I use.
Except for maybe signal, telegram, and vlc, if I don't have these applications, it's not a usable desktop for me.
I used to use Atom instead of VS Code, but VS Code is a lot lighter and performs better on lower-powered machines, so I've stuck with VS Code. Which sucks, because I really like Atom otherwise.

dugan 03-13-2019 04:40 PM
Did anyone mention a TLDR client, or something similar?


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