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Old 06-04-2016, 08:07 AM   #211
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I missed this. There are possibly cases where this is true but for the main part it is absolutely false. In fact, when Windows 8 was installed it was a condition of having "Made For Windows" stickers that the UEFI/BIOS allowed another OS to be installed. There are many, many, sites on the internet showing how to install Linux on a machine with UEFI and some even with "Secure Boot" still enabled.
If you have an example of a machine on which Linux cannot be installed please share it as it is important to let people know what not to buy.
so your saying my 1 year old dell laptop with windows 8.1 is toast as far as installing another OS? i did not get any backup disk with laptop. i tried to make a back up of win 8.1 with there program. i called them many times and they tell me something to fix it and it never worked. they stalled so long on getting help my 1 year warranty was up. so now i can't even backup a reinstall disk so i could put it back on. i will never buy a dell laptop or desktop for that matter. the dell stuff was hidden on laptop and that is why i had to use their program. what if you do a unconditional format on hard drive to totally wipe out drive and then inst linux? just wondering
 
Old 06-04-2016, 08:12 AM   #212
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so your saying my 1 year old dell laptop with windows 8.1 is toast as far as installing another OS?
No, I am saying the opposite -- please read my post again.
I mentioned that there may be rare occasions where what I posted was not true because I don't know everything rather than because I expect there to be.
 
Old 06-04-2016, 08:41 AM   #213
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My Primary Desktop System is Windows 10. I use Linux Mint as a backup. I have too much commercial software to switch to Linux totally. I still cannot find an accounting software equal to Quicken, either.
 
Old 06-04-2016, 10:21 AM   #214
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I use LMDE cinn as my main operating system also use Ubuntu gnome as my second OS. Also use Windows10 occasionally for windows stuff like income tax report and other non Linux working programs. Also I try other's Linux OS for my personal satisfaction (compatible with Ubuntu, Debian or Fedora OS). But my main Linux OS used is Linux Mint.
 
Old 06-04-2016, 10:28 AM   #215
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Cool Main Squeeze

Xubuntu Linux, CAELinux, 3.13.0-87-generic is my main squeeze. It's the petard. I've overcome the problem of updating CAELinux 2013 to Ubuntu 14. I hope they continue to develop. IF I need Creative Cloud, I've got that on a laptop next to my monitors. A software, "Synergy", allows me to run my "BlacK Tower", "White Tower", and the laptop using the same solar powered KB and wireless mouse. Since the days of filling up a buffer, I've always run more than one unit at a time. With "Teamviwer", sometime things get real crazy. Win XP MCE, Win XP Pro, Windows 7, (2)Windows 10s,Fedora, 4QOS, iOS, Android, stuffed into 6 machines, all under the same roof. I'm a busy mofo. Wish we had decent broadband. We're on the wrong side of the digital divide, hoping for "Wimax".

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Old 06-04-2016, 10:36 AM   #216
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Microsoft and Red Hat are trying very hard to remove this work around. They are the two companies that pretty much control the standards in this respect.

Secure boot requires keys which are very expensive to acquire - far too much for smaller Linux and other OS writers.
It is a way of restricting the market used by many large firms that want a monopoly in a field that legally bans such.

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Old 06-04-2016, 11:17 AM   #217
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Randyz48,
As long as you don't reformat the entire HDD, Dell's recovery partition should put you back to original condition. It is also possible to get recovery media from Dell for the original OEM OS. If "partition" is an unfamiliar term, more study is required. You can run "multi-boot systems" w/ UEFI and secure boot, or turn it to "legacy" boot, turn off "secure" boot, even boot from live OS on a USB Stick (Knoppix is cool). All corporations suck right now. Check the documentation or web for your BIOS access and Boot menu procedures, then proceed.
Check out what the "dd" command can do.
http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/...ything_With_DD
You can "dd if=(urdrive) of=(bckup drive.iso) bs =2048, conv=noerror,notrunc" the whole tamal in case you want to dd it back later. Read how and why. Don't copy and paste this overly simplified explanation.
W/ "chntpw" on a live stick, you can even bust the password and registry on a new "10" system. (Don't try this at home)

That being said, the POST (Power ON Self Test) codes, beeps, or lights should inform you as to the condition of your BIOS and main board. More research may be necessary. Once you establish the their condition, you can proceed.

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Old 06-04-2016, 12:47 PM   #218
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Microsoft and Red Hat are trying very hard to remove this work around. They are the two companies that pretty much control the standards in this respect.

Secure boot requires keys which are very expensive to acquire - far too much for smaller Linux and other OS writers.
It is a way of restricting the market used by many large firms that want a monopoly in a field that legally bans such.
I was under the apparently mistaken assumption that the Linux Foundation had a key and gave out boot loaders and that it cost around twenty dollars to buy a signed key. I was also under the misaprehension that Windows 8 "certified" made it mandatory to be able to bypass "Secure Boot" (on x86 at least) and that non-UEFI options in BIOS were common. Sorry, seems I was misinformed.
 
Old 06-04-2016, 01:23 PM   #219
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Linux mint 17.4 , Ubuntu 14.04, windoze 10 , but only in work when I'm not using Linux mint
 
Old 06-04-2016, 01:38 PM   #220
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Linux mint 17.4 ...
Have you come from an alternate future?
 
Old 06-04-2016, 01:44 PM   #221
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Primary operating system.

I use Windows 7 in the office and have dual boot Windows 10 and Ubuntu 16.04 on my home notebook. I am trying to use mostly Ubuntu there.
 
Old 06-04-2016, 02:01 PM   #222
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Have you tried installing any Linux operating system on a newer machine that came with WINDOWS 8 OR HIGHER?
Yes. I have two newer Lenovo laptops. One came with Windows 8.1, the other with Windows 10. I have Debian Linux on both of them.

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so your saying my 1 year old dell laptop with windows 8.1 is toast as far as installing another OS? i did not get any backup disk with laptop. i tried to make a back up of win 8.1 with there program. i called them many times and they tell me something to fix it and it never worked. they stalled so long on getting help my 1 year warranty was up. so now i can't even backup a reinstall disk so i could put it back on. i will never buy a dell laptop or desktop for that matter. the dell stuff was hidden on laptop and that is why i had to use their program. what if you do a unconditional format on hard drive to totally wipe out drive and then inst linux? just wondering
I used dd to clone the entire disk of each of my machines before wiping out Windows to install Linux. If for some strange reason I decide to want to use Windows, I can restore the disk images. Most machines don't come with an install disk anymore, just a recovery partition.
 
Old 06-04-2016, 02:38 PM   #223
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Althogh most manufacturers, if you DO need to compoletely reinstall, will sell a reinstall USB (since most don't have optical drives anymore) for around $30.
 
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Old 06-04-2016, 03:22 PM   #224
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Windows 7 (primary: work + personal)
LinuxMint Cinnamon 17.3 (secondary: personal)
 
Old 06-04-2016, 04:57 PM   #225
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Linux will always be my primary operating system. The second is freeBSD.
 
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