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View Poll Results: What is your preferred Linux Package Management System?
Conary 0 0%
dpkg / APT 160 45.98%
Pacman 27 7.76%
Portage 17 4.89%
RPM / urpmi 10 2.87%
RPM / YUM 50 14.37%
RPM / ZYpp 12 3.45%
tgz / pkgtools 26 7.47%
tgz / slackpkg 36 10.34%
tgz / slapt-get 10 2.87%
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Old 09-16-2014, 12:58 PM   #46
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Relative noob here


I have been computing since 1984. DOS 1.1 and beyond. Didn't get to Linux until about 8 years ago.
I have several years expirence with the Puppy Linux package management system. It was great until I ment other distros
I've expiremented with Slax and Mint and don't remember what their package management systems are like. I guess you could say they are not memorable?
I have been using Ubuntu 14.04 since May and am quite happy with apt. That gets my vote.

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Old 09-16-2014, 02:08 PM   #47
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I really only voted APT because that is what I use most. I like .deb when the Software Center handles it in Ubuntu though
 
Old 09-16-2014, 02:36 PM   #48
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Portage is the best of Linux world.
 
Old 09-16-2014, 02:37 PM   #49
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I find the question to be either simplistic or disingenuous. If you run Red Hat or Fedora, you're going to use yum, otherwise you're going to use something based on apt.

As an end-user, I find that the package maintainer's diligence has much more of an impact than the tool. I don't care whether I run

yum update

or

apt-get update && apt-get upgrade

as long as it works and I don't get any dependency errors.

I'd think that this topic was of much more interest to the valiant crew of open-source package maintainers who use these tools to turn source trees into .deb or .rpm files, and I'm much more interested in their opinion than anyone else's.

Just sayin' ;-)

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Old 09-16-2014, 02:55 PM   #50
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I find the question to be either simplistic or disingenuous.
It is a simple question of preference. It is not disingenuous.

ITT: People taking a simple poll question very, very, very seriously.
 
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Old 09-16-2014, 03:18 PM   #51
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I find the question to be either simplistic or disingenuous. If you run Red Hat or Fedora, you're going to use yum, otherwise you're going to use something based on apt.

As an end-user, I find that the package maintainer's diligence has much more of an impact than the tool. I don't care whether I run

yum update

or

apt-get update && apt-get upgrade

as long as it works and I don't get any dependency errors.

I'd think that this topic was of much more interest to the valiant crew of open-source package maintainers who use these tools to turn source trees into .deb or .rpm files, and I'm much more interested in their opinion than anyone else's.

Just sayin' ;-)
So the only two package managers are apt and yum??

Just sayin'
 
Old 09-16-2014, 04:41 PM   #52
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It's actually better for you, if you think about it.
I have thought about it and after using Slackware for a while I com to the unbiased conclusion that it is not better for me. It may be better for you but it isn't better for me. These things are a matter of personal preference. My personal preference is to either have a system that does everything so I do not need to worry or a system that does nothing so I am in total control, you like a system that does some but not all and that is fine.
 
Old 09-16-2014, 06:41 PM   #53
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No problem. If you want to read more specifically about the package format, there is a rather dense (but readable, if you know anything about ebuilds!) document at http://www.exherbo.org/docs/exheres-for-smarties.html. This can help you see the advances on the package manager side that have been made.

On the distribution side, there are nice features like truly-distributed development so users can act more as developers (this is highly encouraged) than as simply downstream users. But that's related to the package format only in so much as the package manager has elegant support for multiple repositories.
Hi Samoth,

Well I just run Gentoo to learn about packaging and the guts of Linux really. I've installed paludis, from the main Gentoo tree, to test it out in place of portage - on my laptops pre-existing Gentoo install. If I like it then I will probably check out a full install of Exherbo. Portage just feels so slow - even on my 3.6Ghz (3.9Ghz w/ turbo) 6-core Xeon CPU... It feels just like I am wading through treacle. Naturally I don't mean package building - I've got parallel building all setup in a sweet way. I mean just resolving package dependencies prior to building (or when resuming). It feels weird to me that someone would think it's a good idea to use Python for core system functions like this... Smacks of Canonical's Ubuntu One cock-up somewhat...

I did manage to finally get my ebuilds of Firefox with OpenSUSE KDE patchset up and running recently... So I should be able to get my head around Exheres - as long as it isn't too radically different from Gentoo

Thanks again for the recommendation,
Robert

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Old 09-16-2014, 06:59 PM   #54
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>So the only two package managers are apt and yum??
The only linuces I have extensive experience with are RHEL/CentOS/Debian/Ubuntu/Raspbian, so yep, apt and yum. Of course, they're front ends for dpkg and rpm, and in turn are supported by a variety of gui and text-based tools. I also use port to update XQuartz programs on my Mac, but I haven't put enough effort into learning how to use it properly to form an opinion.

And yes, taking life too seriousy is one of my persistant character flaws, apologies '-)
 
Old 09-16-2014, 07:35 PM   #55
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Nothing wrong with that. If the lot of us didn't like to argue our opinions, we wouldn't be on a forum.
 
Old 09-16-2014, 07:39 PM   #56
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nothing wrong with that. If the lot of us didn't like to argue our opinions, we wouldn't be on a forum.
I DISAGREE!!!



edit: For some reason this forum won't let me post in all caps, apparently I need some lower case words to convince it I don't have a stuck caps lock. In doing so, I am diminishing the effect of my emotional outrage. Sad day.

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Old 09-16-2014, 08:01 PM   #57
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I DISAGREE!!!

edit: For some reason this forum won't let me post in all caps, apparently I need some lower case words to convince it I don't have a stuck caps lock. In doing so, I am diminishing the effect of my emotional outrage. Sad day.
This post pleases me.
 
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Old 09-16-2014, 09:21 PM   #58
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YUM

I vote for yum
 
Old 09-16-2014, 09:51 PM   #59
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tgz / slapt-get
 
Old 09-16-2014, 11:05 PM   #60
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As a side note, "make" that was just proposed could have been worded "No Package Management System". That's of course possible, but put all the burden of maintaining each individual file in the system on the shoulder of its user(s). Not for me
The make utility can actually be a very effective package manager actually if you keep your source directories and run make clean against them after installation. All you need to do to remove a package is make uninstall or equivalent or re-build, re-install, and re-clean the sources. That is unless you moved files around, then you will need to add the tar utility into the mix and learn to remove files by hand.

Example: I tarball my entire system on LFS after building the base system, which is a single package. The for every package afterwards, I use make to manage the system, and a textfile to document dependencies, date of installation, etc. it's a lot of work, but after you do it enough, you really appreciate the knowledge. Plus, I keep build-scripts I custom design on hand too for easier package handling.
 
  


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