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Old 12-09-2003, 05:19 PM   #16
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The only reason I keep going back to Dreamweaver is because of the features that I could not code on my own. I can edit them once they are there, but timelines, and behaviors are beyond my scope of abilities (i'm not a web developer, but often get called upon to do the work of one). I usually use dreamweaver to design the site, but later edit it with quanta.

I agree, the Gimp is every bit as good as photoshop, once you learn how to use it.
 
Old 12-09-2003, 05:45 PM   #17
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Quote:
Originally posted by ezra143
The only reason I keep going back to Dreamweaver is because of the features that I could not code on my own. I can edit them once they are there, but timelines, and behaviors are beyond my scope of abilities (i'm not a web developer, but often get called upon to do the work of one).
Well, if I were using stuff as templates often
I'd put it in a little ascii file and load if from
emacs ;) takes me 10 seconds longer than
clicking a button. If I used it REALLY often
I'd defun a hot-key for it, and that would make
me faster than the mouser :}

Quote:
I agree, the Gimp is every bit as good as photoshop, once you learn how to use it.
Yeah, Gimp is awesome. :}



Cheers,
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Old 12-09-2003, 06:04 PM   #18
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Ya know, Thats a good idea. Not suprised i didn't think of that!

I guess thats why you ARE the GURU.

Ok, and for flash? Then I can completely leave windows!
 
Old 12-09-2003, 06:07 PM   #19
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Heres why I use it.

1. It works
2. No rebooting
3. No viruses
4. I can do multipul things at once without reboot (see #2)
5. Free
6. Secure
7. Hella fast (IMO)
8. Easy to use (IMO)
9. No outlook
10. GREAT for 3D Animation (Maya)
11. No defraging
12. No "Scandisk"
13. Good free/open source software
14. GREAT COMMUNITY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

( thats not inorder )


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Old 12-10-2003, 04:57 AM   #20
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hat could you do on Linux which just isn't possible on Windows? What tools did you use
* Running an free good quality IMAP server, this allows me to access my e-mail from whatever mail-client I like, I even have secure webmail access to the e-mail stored on my own computer (via apache + squirllmail + courier-imap)

* The machine is automatically downloading, sorting my e-mail. hotmail is being downloaded too, since I run my own webmail. When I'm using the KDE desktop, an kbiff tray icon also tells me I have new e-mail. ...everything happens without using an actual mail client.

* Controlling my computer remotely with ssh (putty/winscp are the best ssh clients for windows). I can install new drivers, change settings, play with the system, even reboot it because I've installed a new kernel remotely. even upgrade the ssh-service remotely from ssh.

* Giving my sister access to my computer (she seams to like kde and the kmess messenger), and knowing she can't do anything wrong, can't hurt the system, or install adware/spyware that could infect my account too. And because I've told her this, she isn't really scared to work with my computer while I'm at school.

* Installing gentoo-linux from an existing linux system, slowly migrating to gentoo. Also, typing "emerge sync; emerge -pvu world" to see could be upgraded. typing "emerge -u world" to upgrade my system. ..typing "emerge gimp" to download,compile and install gimp.

* Running my old monitor with 70Hz, windows xp won't go above 60hz, whatever I tell it. (and there are no helpfull logs). Getting my scanner to work, XP doesn't see it, even though I've used a filmware file from windows xp in sane.!!

* Having much more insight in what my system does, and what software I should use. I wouldn't ever in my life run mail,web,ftp,vnc servers on Windows, and I don't have to google to find what I want, or keep looking for good software that isn't loaed with adds, or requires me to pay first... most of the tools I wanted to use wasn't for serious work anyway (I guess this qualifies me as a tech person, liking to do cool things with it's computer, and play arround... people not liking this might not find linux that useful at home imho)

* Having a workable system when 10 people are downloading movies, the system load because 8.0! (had this on a lan party) Internet Explorer already freezes if I move 30gig to another partition. linux did the same thing twice as fast in the console
..but it also uses your free memory space to speed things up a lot.

* Running Unreal Tournament with higher framerates

Last edited by yapp; 12-10-2003 at 05:10 AM.
 
Old 12-10-2003, 07:49 AM   #21
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Ok, and for flash? Then I can completely leave windows!
Flash MX and Dreamweaver MX have both been successfully run on Linux under wine. There are howtos on both here.
 
Old 02-24-2004, 07:53 PM   #22
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I can do far more with Linux.

What can I do with Linux that I can't do with Windows?
I can...
1. Watch DVDs, without my OS suddenly baffling over where the appropriate drivers wandered off to--and without paying an ADDITIONAL MPAA tax.
2. Burn CDs. Under Windows, I would have to purchase some proprietary software to do this. If I ever lost that Nero cd-rom and had to format the HD, I'm SOL.
3. Secure my system. Under Windows, I would again have to throw protection money at MacAffee or Norton. I have several FREE choices under Linux.
4. Customize my UI. My desktop is perfectly suited to my needs. I can choose from 4 window managers and 2 desktop environments.
5. Learn. OSS operating systems allow you to know what your software is really doing.
6. Save money. Here is the gleaming economic advantage to both myself as well as the Linux distributor. The folks at my favorite distro are pretty much forced by GPL to let me use this stuff for free (only fair--THEY didn't make it), but once I can afford a subscription, guess whose services I'm going to purchase (or whose distro project I'll donate my $$ to).

And most importantly:
7. With Linux I can trust my box.
When you buy WinXP--hell, when you download WMP 9, you give Billy G. admin rights to your machine. MS reserves the right to install whatever they please on your machine. Microsoft is very adept at speaking out both sides of its mouth. MS fills the press with soothing lies about Trusted Computing while filling every EULA they write with one very obvious reservation: The right to exploit your machine in any way The Almighty Corporation sees fit, and if it ends up harming YOU, well, tough: maybe you can get a partial refund.

If things get autoinstalled via Mandrake, it's because I asked for it and I know that the Linux communities simply do not tolerate Microshaftiness.

Things I CAN'T do with Linux that I CAN do with Windows?
1. Play HALO.
2. Play WM* files and a few other obscure video codecs (no real loss there)
3. um, there must be a third one ... Be motivated toward piracy?

That's the beauty of FLOSS. Infinite possibilities; total freedom; perfectly legal.
 
Old 02-24-2004, 09:30 PM   #23
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"2. Play WM* files and a few other obscure video codecs (no real loss there)"
mplayer handles wmv...not sure about others.

Things i used in Windows:
Photoshop
Lightwave
Flash
Dreamweaver
UnrealEd
Fruityloops
Sound Forge

Things I use in Linux:
Gimp
Maya
Blender
Bash
Vim
Sweep
Ardour
Hydrogen

There are a few things I did easily in Windows for which I haven't found a Linux equivalent....There are many things I now do in Linux that I never would have dreamed of in Windows. The trade off is largely in favor of Linux.
 
Old 02-25-2004, 04:41 AM   #24
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Things which I find convenient about Linux/inconvenient about Windows:
a. Linux has a lot of tools with it by default, netstat, top, ntop, grep, fine
compilers, to name just a few. Not to forget iptables. It's just there.
b. Linux can mount almost any file system, including MS fs, Windows...well.
c. The crlf issue
d. man/info pages. /usr/share/doc. Windows has nothing of that stuff. And
if you want these (and other) features under Windows, you'd have to spend lots of money.
 
Old 03-07-2004, 04:22 PM   #25
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I can use the world's largest collection of free software.
I can use the world's largest tech support knowledge base.
I can help others fix problems.
I can get all the software I need for free.
I can work without interruption from viruses, hacks, and worms.
I can get all my work done on a free OS instead of one that costs $100-$200 plus the cost of apps.
I can use UNIX commands.

The list goes on but you said brief examples.
These are just some of the reasons that I prefer Linux to Windows.
Even for apps I can only run on Windows, there's WINE, Win4Lin, and VMWare. I don't use the last two, but WINE is great, and it's free.
I rarely need/want to run Windows because whatever it is, I can get it done better on Linux, in most cases.

Last edited by apache363; 03-07-2004 at 04:25 PM.
 
Old 03-07-2004, 05:02 PM   #26
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things i can do in windows but not linux:

1. make a cluster (I use openmosix and its incredibly easy)
2. i can fix any software problems in linux, in windows i just have to hope the next update will do it for me.
3. i can leave my computer on for over 4 days without it getting all slow.
 
Old 03-07-2004, 05:48 PM   #27
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If you have to run a small network say of 10 PC's -- think of the license costs you incurr running Windows.

9 X WXP Windows home / WXP Pro @ 300 USD each

1 X Server 2003 (that alone costs over 1,000 USD)

10 X Office XP @ another 300 USD each -- even with Volume licensing

Ms Exchange server (or other E-mail server) -- another 1,000 - 2,000 USD here


Zillions of file security and other S--T costing a bomb.


Using Open Office and Linux you can build a cheap safe network costing Zilch. For the size of network I'm talking about you don't need any Linux Enterprise products.

So I can actually HAVE A NETWORK WITHOUT SPENDING A FORTUNE -- Not possible in 'Doze.


As far as running programs - of course there's so much stuff out there for Windows -- but there really is very little left where you HAVE to use 'Doze any more.

Open Office is now so good if you install it properly that most people won't miss not using Ms Office anymore.

What Windows is simply horrible at is you can't pipe the output of commands very easily -- no nice shell etc so no CRONTAB to schedule unattended jobs such as nightly backups etc.


If I really had to have Windows again -- Photoshop would be the thing I need most -- but this runs under WINE via Crossover Office

( http://www.codeweavers.com )

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Old 03-08-2004, 12:20 AM   #28
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Quote:
Originally posted by ezra143
What I cant do:
1.Run dreamweaver MX
2. run Flash MX
First of all, CrossXOffice works great for these 2 applications. Photoshop 7.0+ also works just fine for me. Someone already posted about this working with wine which of course works in connection with crossxoffice, but I thought I'd also throw in my 2 cents on that.


When I decided to install linux on my system (about 8-10 months ago), I did what perhaps most people did when they wanted to try out linux (unless they have 2 systems/more) - I set up a dual boot system.

I have Windows set aside in a small partition which I have never booted up to except for when I installed it. Now whenever I work on a MS Windows system at work, school, friend's house, etc. (YES!!! THEY'RE EVERYWHERE rofl) I miss my darn linux system. And when I'm on linux, I never even think of MS because it's such a pleasure to work on my pc!!!

- Free software
- Free biggest support in such a large and growing community
- No viruses or worms
- Sharing a system with family members is a blessing...knowing that there is a 0.001% chance that you'll ever have to reinstall your entire system again because they made a "mistake"
- there are so many more things I could think off...but...I have to go and read some more to expand my knowledge :P

LINUX JUST ROCKS!!
 
  


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