Ello All,

I am installing Ubuntu server 10.10 onto a machine with a 1 tb Hard drive. i have had a host of other problems installing but that is for another thread. my question here is that it takes so long to format such a big drive, and i have heard and read that Lvm starts with a small partition and expands it as more room is needed. so the installer crashed and started over so this time i decided to choose 'Guided - Use entire disk and set up LVM' instead of just 'Guided - Use Entire Disk'. so it is asking me to set the size of the LVM Volume. am i setting the size of the initial volume? or am i setting the max size the volume can expand to?

-JL Griffin

This its not 'URGENT' for any of our voluntary members so please do not demand priority attention

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Formatting a hard disk of that size should not take longer than 10 minutes using EXT3. XFS takes not even 10 seconds. There is something else wrong with your installation, using LVM as a workaround is a bad idea. You replace an unknown error with a complicated workaround.

jlinkels

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Um actually it was. you want to know why? BECAUSE I WAS SITTING AT A TERMINAL WINDOW WAITING FOR A RESPONSE FROM SOMEONE ABOUT WHAT TO DO!

How about next time do what you signed up for this forum for AND ANSWER THE DAMN QUESTION instead of wasting my time and the time of the with a pointless response like that one.

ProTip: You catch more bees with honey than vinegar.

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Actually i figured other the other problem, its a bug in the installer when working with USB disk drives the installer starts the partitioner with the drive at /cdrom but the partition looks for files at /media/cdrom because its a USB disk drive.

If you'd like to see the full details of what i did, here is the link to the other forum where i posted all the details

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...nstall-867038/

But i am still curious about that. I just put 'max' into the input field. but I'd like to know if the number i am inputing is the initial size for the partition or the max size it can expand to.

Regards,
JL Griffin

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You either didn't actually read what I said, or chose to ignore it. This is a FREE site with members who give up their time to help other people. Saying that you deserve attention urgently is rude, and no one here is under any obligation whatsoever to help anyone else in any way. They do it because they want to, therefore should not be pressured in to helping. The correct resposne was "Yeah, sorry about that, I was just a bit frustrated and didn't realise".

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LVM has no concept of this, indeed your filesystem size does not change as it's still an ext3 filesystem (or other) on top of an LVM partition / PV / VG / LV. There is no automatic expansion here, and "max" just means "use all the space available" as it does with normal primary / extended partitions.

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I am aware, and can appreciate that people give up there time voluntarily for this, but what makes any one post more urgent than another? I'm pretty sure that the urgency/priority is determined by the person posting, and its usually 'URGENT' when there is some sort of time restraint... which there was... because unfortunately, perhaps unlike you, my job requires that I get things done in a timely fashion, otherwise I can lose my job, and in a job market like this one, i cant afford that.

I have deadlines that need to be met, so yes it is urgent when i need a response on what the correct thing is to do in time to still meet my deadline.

So yes, actually it was urgent, and no actually 'yeah sorry about that...' was not the correct response.

HOWEVER, the response i made wasn't the correct response either. I admit that i was inappropriately rude and abrasive in my response, and no its not an excuse, but i did have a short wick from all the problems i was having. Either way i apologize for my rudeness.

Regards & apologies,
JL Griffin

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So, let's break this down:

• You come here, and want **URGENT** priority for a question
• You get support from here, for free
• You don't get it in the fashion that YOU like, and complain.
• Then your excuse is that you were at work, and couldn't figure something out, but we should all shut up and answer you anyway, rather than pointing out your bad behavior.

Sorry, none of this makes it urgent for us. If you can't figure out how to perform your job functions in a 'timely fashion', then that's your problem. If you need **URGENT** 24/7 support, get RedHat or SuSE enterprise linux, and you can call them, and they'll be there for you, whenever you'd like.

PROTIP: If you don't pay for support, you shouldn't expect it to be there whenever you need it...you, (yes, YOU), may actually HAVE TO WAIT.

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OK that's kind of what i thought. i knew that max was all available space. But i was confused aboutwhat i was actually entering into the prompt. here was the prompt i got:
[FONT="Courier New"]
| **********************UBUNTU 10.10 (Maverick) Server Setup********************* |
| ______________________________________________________________________________ *|
| |-----------------------------| Partition Setup |-----------------------------| |
| | -------------- Please select the size for the Logical Volume -------------- | |
| |=============================================================================| |
| | ------------ Note: Logical Volume management allows you to expand your ---- | |
| | -------- available disk space as more space is needed. You can expand ----- | |
| | -------- your logical volume to use other partitions, unused disk space, -- | |
| | -------- or new physical drives. Regardless of the diffferant ------------- | |
| | -------- partitions or drives, LVM allows the total amount of space ------- | |
| | -------- to be treated as one large partition. ---------------------------- | |
| |=============================================================================| |
| | -------------- Hint: You may use the minimum (334Gbt) which is 0% or you--- | |
| | -------- can use the maximum (999.9Gbt) for your logical volume. You ------ | |
| | -------- may also specify a percentage of the total HDD space(Ex: 20%) ---- | |
| | -------- to specify how much space LVM should use as compared to the ------ | |
| | -------- total amount of available disk space. You can also type 'max'----- | |
| | -------- to instruct LVM to use all available disk space. ----------------- | |
| |=============================================================================| |
| | --|LVM size:_999.9 Gb__________________________________________________| -- | |
| |=============================================================================| |
| |---------------|_Go Back_|-------------------------|_Continue_|--------------| |
| |_____________________________________________________________________________| |
|_________________________________________________________________________________|

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So, let's break this down:

*You come here, and want **URGENT** priority for a question
- YES
and since you seem to have such a problem with urgency i'd like to know why you havent posted similar BS in any of these threads:[LIST][*]http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...omains-866142/[*]http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...omains-866142/[*]http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...urgent-865814/[*]http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...ent%5D-865520/

So answer me that one.

*You get support from here, for free
- YES

*You don't get it in the fashion that YOU like, and complain.
-when exactly did i complain? unless you are talking about me calling someone out on a violation of the rules by making an unrelated and impertinent response to my question (See: http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/rules.html '4th bullet point'). And if you'll notice i didnt 'Complain' about the only 2 responses so far that actually pertained to my question, only the responses that waste my/your/our time like for example... yours.

*Then your excuse is that you were at work, and couldn't figure something out, but we should all shut up and answer you anyway, rather than pointing out your bad behavior.
- Im sorry, to which bad behavior are you actually referring, asking a question? or calling someone out on breaking the forum rules? because i fail to see which of those is 'bad behavior'...

Sorry, none of this makes it urgent for us.

-so if you feel that way, JUST DONT POST A RESPONSE! and leave it to the considerate volunteers who are willing to help on an urgent matter instead of making stupid post like this one that waste my/your/our time arguing and bantering instead of answering the damn question.

If you can't figure out how to perform your job functions in a 'timely fashion', then that's your problem.

-First you call me rude, then you have the audacity to make a comment like that?! Well excuse me for having a question! I Guess next time i should just press random keys and hope for the best?

If you need **URGENT** 24/7 support, get RedHat or SuSE enterprise linux, and you can call them, and they'll be there for you, whenever you'd like.

-Would you like to talk to my boss about that one? because he is the one who decided to go with the FREE OS, Not me.

PROTIP: If you don't pay for support, you shouldn't expect it to be there whenever you need it...you, (yes, YOU), may actually HAVE TO WAIT.

Yes thank you for your considerate and wise protip.

You (yes, YOU) Deserve a carrot for being such an a**!

ProTip:Saying stupid shit makes you (yes, YOU) look STUPID!

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Because I didn't feel like it.
Post #4, when you whined about a response you got. Public forum=people posting things that you may not like.
Re: post #4, and post #8, where you even say that you SHOULDN'T apologize for being rude, then half-way try to.
Again, public forum=posting what you may not like. I'll post as I see fit, just as everyone else does. You were rude, and continue to be so.
Yep...you were sitting at a terminal, and come here expecting folks to hurry up and help you? A question is one thing...telling folks to hurry up because YOU are in a hurry is another. Again, if it's your job, you should know how to do it, and how to research things. This shouldn't be the only place for an answer for ANYONE. Ubuntu forums exist, as does Google, all of which could have helped you out. Sitting at a terminal, and waiting for someone to answer your question isn't a good idea, especially if you're in a hurry. And if your job is hanging by such a thin thread that one disk-format could put you out on the street, perhaps there are larger issues to deal with.
Nope, that's your job. Just pointing out an obvious solution to your **URGENT** issues.
Yes, it does...you probably should stop doing it.

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OK, so lets calm down here, I personally believe I know who does and does not look stupid. I expect most other people will too, so just move on, there is no battle that's going to be won any time soon.

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Excuse me on stepping in, but it seems like both of you are getting a bit ridiculous.

griffinwebnet,
You have to admit that you havent been the nicest person about this whole thing. You have to understand that these are the people that you are asking for help, so insulting them is probably not a great idea.

on the other hand...

TB0ne,
you are also being ridiculous. Its but if you will notice, griffinwebnet actually admitted that he was rude & apologized for his rudeness, and things didnt get hostile again until you instigated another argument. also, if you will notice that there is absolutely no hostility in either of these responses:

And

Ironically enough, both of these posts pertain to his question. and in fact in the first one i quoted, he is actually talking to acid_kewpie which is who he was originally arguing with, however his post has no hostility whatsoever.

I'm not taking sides one way or the other, I just think that you both need to quit sniping at each other and just get over it. and quit instigating arguments. BOTH OF YOU!

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I have to agree. EVERYONE just calm down. It doesnt reflect well on either of you to banter over petty stuff like this on a PUBLIC FORUM. people are going to see this thread and think that both of you are a-holes, even though Im sure that you are both nice people and that the content of this petty argument isnt a reflection on how you actually are as a people.


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funny thought. i bet that if the 2 of you met each other in person without knowing the other was the person behind the username, you'd get along great. lol.

Just a thought

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