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Old 04-06-2002, 05:17 PM   #1
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Updating RH 7.2 kernel, need advice


First off, I was wonding if the athlon incompatbily issue stiill exists in the RH 7.2 kernel. The reason I ask this is because sometimes i get major slowdowns while surfing or typing or anything like that on linux.

I decided to do some research on any incompatibility with linux and found this;
kernel-2.4.9-31.athlon.rpm
kernel-smp-2.4.9-31.athlon.rpm

I am using a classic athlon 550, and it seems there are some issues between linux and athlons.

First off. are these updates newer or older then he
rh 7.2 kernel. If they are newer, then that might me the key to extra performance.

Before I update, can you guys please tell me the best way to do this? I am really not sure what i'm doing when updating a kernel.
And instuctions would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks guys for any help.
 
Old 04-06-2002, 05:26 PM   #2
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Yeah, this kernel is newer than the one RedHat7.2 is shipped with, to wisely upgrade by rpm I'd suggest go over to http://www.redhat.com and look there for instructions (they are there, I am just too lazy to look for them there), you might also wnat to unleashed the up2date feature on your RH machine, just register with redhat network, and run up2date on regular basis if you want almost up-to-date updates ( they are still behind because RH tests and optimizes them before releasing to the public).And you need kernel sources installed on your system to upgrade kernel with rpms, as for athlon bug, I am using athlon system with kernel optimized for athlon processor, never had a single problem due to athlon bug.
 
Old 04-06-2002, 05:43 PM   #3
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I am using athlon system with kernel optimized for athlon processor, never had a single problem due to athlon bug.
Did you optimize your kernel for the athlon with the rpm packages i'm going to install or do you have a different method of optimizing your kernel for the athlon?

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And you need kernel sources installed on your system to upgrade kernel with rpms
Where can I get the sources?
 
Old 04-06-2002, 06:22 PM   #4
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The agp athlon bug that you're reffering to only strikes if you also have an AGP card and doens't matter if you've optimized the kernel in compiling for an athlon as the problems are all AGP memory based. There is a single line you can put in your lilo.conf file to fix it, but I don't know what the trick is if you are using grub.

I'm running RedHat 7.2, no problems with the 2.4.18 kernel I compiled myself on a P3 500 laptop. Its really easy. It might take a few compiles to make certain you have all the hardware support you need, but I prefer DIY than trusting RedHat not to screw up my install. up2date is cool, don't get me wrong, but I don't let it fool with my bootloader, kernel, or filesystem.

Luck,

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Old 04-06-2002, 08:38 PM   #5
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yeah, personally, I haven't upgraded kernel through rpms, I compiled my own, it is 2.4.17 still, but I am looking forward to 2.5.x series, see what benefits I can get. About sources, do at command line
rpm -q kernel-source
if it returns kernel-source.x.x.x you got it, if not install it off installation CD's, I believ it is on CD1, but I can be wrong, look for it.
 
Old 04-06-2002, 11:19 PM   #6
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finegan, what I mean by optimizing the kernel is, optimizing the kernel so it is i684 (athlon) compatible so I can get all the performence out of linux. The athlon bug will also probably go away as soon as get optimize the kernel. Not sure though.

neo77777

Do you thnk it is a good idea to upgrade the kernel using .rpm packages ? if not, how can I find out on how to complile a kernel so that it will be optimized for i684 processors?
 
Old 04-06-2002, 11:24 PM   #7
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RedHat has a lot of patches in their kernel, the latest one is 2.4.9-31 and you should probably use it.I am using the athlon rpm on my Athlon system


You should also use up2date as recommended, it's great.

And free
 
Old 04-07-2002, 09:59 AM   #8
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Well, I just registered with the RH network, and i was wondering, should I update my kernel with the athlon rpms first or should I do an update with up2date first then upgrade my kernel?

Just curious, at that one screeen when registering with RH, where it shows a list of packages that are installed on your system, is it critical to only check mark the boxes of packagess installed on your system? because i'm too lazy to check mark the packages I have and also the fact that I dont remember all the packages I installed.
 
Old 04-07-2002, 06:58 PM   #9
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anyone?
 
Old 04-07-2002, 10:15 PM   #10
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As it is said on RH site if your up2date falls behind a certain version it is recommneded to upgrade up2date first, but anyhow update up2date, and all the packages that are updatable through up2date, and then update kernel. As a default kernel packages are flaged to be skipped for update, just check them for update after you upgraded everything besides kernel.
Good luck.
P.S. As for checking the packages installed on your system, you can schedule update RHN database with the list of packages installed on your system on RHN website, just login into redhat network website under system yu can schedule the update of the packages list.

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