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Old 02-16-2020, 09:42 AM   #1
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UKTV Play


Has anyone managed to use UKTV PLay on the computer?

I started with Pale Moon and was told to disable my add-blocker and refresh the page. I did so and was told to disable my add-blocker and refresh the page. Then I tried Firefox, and disabled the add-blocker before going to the site, but had the same problem. Then I installed Chrome, with no add-ons, and again got the message about the add-blocker!

I filed a complaint and actually got an email back, but this was obviously created by a bot, since it just said that (1) they don't support Pale Moon and (2) you have to turn off your add-blocker.

So, shall I never know how Miss Fisher solved her latest mystery?
 
Old 02-16-2020, 10:17 AM   #2
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The last service of that kind I attempted to use was able to detect incognito mode (and didn't work within it) and expected me disable all my protective plugins - at which point I gave up on it.

The list of supported sites for youtube-dl includes UKTVPlay.

 
Old 02-18-2020, 08:58 AM   #3
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The latest is that I tried to access it with a Windows browser via Wine. The site says you need Opera, Firefox, or Chrome — all are rated garbage by Wine.

Youtube-dl is, not surprisingly, intended for Youtube. It has no instructions on how to use it for anything else and I couldn't work out what to do.

I don't know what's more disappointing — that a major service doesn't work with Linux or that no-one here seems to know anything about it!
 
Old 02-18-2020, 11:15 AM   #4
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If I turn off my ad-blocker in Chromium, it removes the message about ad-blocker, but when I try to play something it asks me to sign-in (makes sense) - I do not have an account so cannot get any further...
 
Old 02-18-2020, 01:28 PM   #5
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The latest is that I tried to access it with a Windows browser via Wine. The site says you need Opera, Firefox, or Chrome — all are rated garbage by Wine.

Youtube-dl is, not surprisingly, intended for Youtube. It has no instructions on how to use it for anything else and I couldn't work out what to do.

I don't know what's more disappointing — that a major service doesn't work with Linux or that no-one here seems to know anything about it!
I've just tried it and it worked when I disabled privacy badger but I still have ublock. I just cleared all the cookies etc when I closed it down.
I'm on opensuse leap with firefox.

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Old 02-19-2020, 11:14 AM   #6
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Well, I tried again and it just doesn't work with Firefox and Pale Moon (as it said on the site) or with Google Chrome — I don't have Chromium. Perhaps it's a question of versions or even distro. I give up.
 
Old 02-19-2020, 04:51 PM   #7
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Youtube-dl is, not surprisingly, intended for Youtube.
Intended primarily for YouTube, but what may perhaps be surprising is that, since the start of the year, there have been TWENTY TIMES as many non-YouTube-related changes as there have been YouTube ones.


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It has no instructions on how to use it for anything else and I couldn't work out what to do.
Both "youtube-dl --help" and "man youtube-dl" give a clear usage example:
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youtube-dl [OPTIONS] URL [URL...]
i.e. find the page of what you want in the browser, copy the URL, type "youtube-dl ", paste the url - when you press enter it'll start going.

There's a lot of options available, but you don't need them by default and they're pretty well explained by both the help and the very comprehensive man page.

(For example, if you need to login then append "--username YOURUSERNAME" and it'll prompt for your password; If there's multiple quality options and you don't want the highest, use "--list-formats" to see what's available then "--format FORMATNUMBER" to download that format; etc)

 
Old 02-20-2020, 11:37 AM   #8
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i.e. find the page of what you want in the browser, copy the URL, type "youtube-dl ", paste the url - when you press enter it'll start going.
Oh no it won't! I can read a man page after 40 years computing and that's what I did. The reply was that it couldn't find the host. With Youtube, the address in the url box is actually that of the file you are going to watch. In UKTV Play, it's simply the page of the site from which you can request the item to be played. And good luck making sense of the reams of source code for the page!

PS I know you are trying to help, but it really is good policy only to give instructions that you have actually used yourself and so seen to work.

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Old 02-20-2020, 12:26 PM   #9
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Oh no it won't! I can read a man page after 40 years computing and that's what I did. The reply was that it couldn't find the host.
Well "couldn't find the host" is different from "I couldn't work out what to do", (and may suggest a need to configure the proxy settings).

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With Youtube, the address in the url box is actually that of the file you are going to watch. In UKTV Play, it's simply the page of the site from which you can request the item to be played. And good luck making sense of the reams of source code for the page!
YouTube has at least a dozen different URL variations. The file you watch is served from a different domain.

The point of youtube-dl is to give it the same URL as the browser and it will read the source and attempt to make sense of it for you - if that doesn't work, it should be raised on the issue tracker.


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it really is good policy only to give instructions that you have actually used yourself and so seen to work.
Yep, which is why I originally went and tested with the trailer for Quantico before posting - it downloaded successfully then and still does now. It appears my mistake was to assume the whole of UKTV would use the same player.

Testing with Mr's Fishers Modern Murder Mysteries fails with an "Unsupported URL" error, and it looks like this is a known issue.

 
Old 03-03-2020, 05:33 PM   #10
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Yep, which is why I originally went and tested with the trailer for Quantico before posting - it downloaded successfully then and still does now. It appears my mistake was to assume the whole of UKTV would use the same player.

Testing with Mr's Fishers Modern Murder Mysteries fails with an "Unsupported URL" error, and it looks like this is a known issue.
I've found I can't download Youtube videos anymore, bit like uktvplay:
Code:
charlie@charlie-machine:~/SC$ youtube-dl https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_llFS27_90
[youtube] l_llFS27_90: Downloading webpage
[youtube] l_llFS27_90: Downloading video info webpage
ERROR: l_llFS27_90: YouTube said: This video is unavailable.
charlie@charlie-machine:~/SC$
The Quantico url worked fine, I guess Youtube have changed something to prevent downloads :-(
 
Old 03-03-2020, 05:56 PM   #11
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Perhaps - YouTube/Google like to change things for no reason all the time.

But if you upgrade to latest version (2020.03.01) that command starts downloading a 668MB webm file here.

 
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Well, thank you all, but this whole affair looks like yet another example of badly-coded rubbish sites that I'm sure I can live without!
 
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Perhaps - YouTube/Google like to change things for no reason all the time.

But if you upgrade to latest version (2020.03.01) that command starts downloading a 668MB webm file here.
Yep, that worked, You need to install pip, then you can do an upgrade like this:
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sudo apt install python-pip
pip install --upgrade youtube-dl

charlie@charlie-machine:~$ youtube-dl --version
2020.03.01
charlie@charlie-machine:~$
 
  


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