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John VV 04-13-2014 12:08 PM

almost all main sites use magnet links
they are distributed
and do not require a central "tracking" server

mind you you also have to be using software that can use them
5 years ago this was a problem

not any more

advantage is
normally more seeders
and they can NOT be blocked by the isp blocking the tracking server
-- the above TPB movie
they can not be blocked by blocking TPB

timl 04-13-2014 06:14 PM

The following commands open the port and restart iptables. After typing this you should find your port is open:

Quote:

sudo /sbin/iptables -I INPUT -p udp --destination-port 51413 -j ACCEPT
sudo /sbin/iptables -I INPUT -p tcp --destination-port 51413 -j ACCEPT
sudo service iptables restart
But you don't want to do that everytime you reboot. This link has some info about iptables on ubuntu and it does document a save command:

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Ip...ing%20iptables

Quote:

sudo iptables-save
You will have to do a bit of reading though to verify that is the correct command.

69Rixter 04-14-2014 01:11 PM

To : timl:

Alright. See, I din't think it should be closed, but didn't really know for sure. AGAIN, THANK YOU. As I am in the "infant" stages of using/learning about bittorrents, every post/every bit of info I receive is a learning experience. Pretty soon, I SHOULD be able to use/get around sucessfully w/ a BT. I still have a ways to go, but given time, 'llI get it down. Trying to learn, now, how to "seed" after the download has stopped. Different "sites" have different ways of doing that, so, right now, I'm trying to find which is the most effecient/easiest. Appreciate you replying/talking the time to help.
Take Care:
Rick

To JohnVV:

Does TBT have the proper software to use a "magnet? The majority of the time, it just reads out "file can't be found"!!
Take care:
Rick

rtmistler 04-15-2014 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Randicus Draco Albus (Post 5151533)
My experience is thus:
Every magnet torrent I have seen has been an .exe file.
And I am not the only one. Recently I was involved in a discussion on another board were several other people have had the same experience.

So if magnet torrents are not for Windows, then there are not many real ones out there. I for one, am not going to search the entire internet looking for a small number of real torrents. It is much easier to avoid magnet links. Which is why I shall continue advising people to make their lives easier by avoiding them.

The magnet link itself is not the exe file, the magnet link is a browswer shortcut to start the torrent, I use them when I see them available. Note also that when you look at the torrent if there are search results or some summary, that will tell you what files are included in the torrent. Yes, there are very, very many viruses, trojans, or junk mailings sent out via torrents. Another reason why you see them so much as magnet links is BECAUSE clicking on a magnet link typically auto-starts your default torrent application, loads that torrent, and starts grabbing it. Even if you don't say the final OK, there have been extremely high seeded torrents that I've gone to download and either not been too quick to click the final start when that window comes up in my torrent app and I've noticed that it actually has already started grabbing parts from peers.

In any case, just like browsing where you have to be careful about clicking happily away on everything, you also have to be careful that you don't click on magnet links where you don't know what they contain. And about my point regarding the auto-start and download before you hit click, one thing you also can do is to set your torrent application to not auto-run or auto-load anything once the torrent has been complete. Most of them, that's the default anyways.

I use transmission and have zero problems with it. I forget how much or little I modify the default settings; really I think I make sure it's not going to auto-run anything, and set up the target location where I place the downloaded torrents and that's about it. The other things to look at are whether or not you're going to seed. Sad to say, but I try not to do that because I use them when I have too from work to download a new Linux distro, but if I can grab it via FTP or other method, I'll do that. If I were to run torrent all the time and seed, then it would degrade our network, but if I have to run torrent to grab new software, I do that, and sometimes the IT guy stops by and asks me if I'm doing that intentionally, because they notice the ton of sessions that get run and they get concerned, it's a red flag too them.

Torrents are voluntary things, there are legitimate as well as not-legitimate content. I.e. movies, music, games, or other content which is not legally being shared, but is available on torrents. Legitimate ones may be things like openly available content or like a distribution of Linux. Either case, the seeding is voluntary, the more legitimate and more highly sought out contents are going to be more highly seeded. Again, these statistics are available from torrent search engines; they're not always correct, but they sometimes give an indication. So if you go to grab some very obtuse free software and the torrent just sits there for a few hours with no data, then it's probably a dead torrent or the one or two seeders are not online. That's just the way it is.

69Rixter 04-15-2014 11:19 AM

To timl:

The 'commands" you posted did not work. Entering the 3rd command I got [ unrecognized service ]. Did these commands work for your comp? And we should be clear that we are using TransmissionBitTorrent? I do appreciate your offer of help. Perhaps something in the commands was misprinted? Or perhaps I need to do something else as we may have different client's or O.S's. I'll post my laptop's specs concerning this thread.

HP2000-210us Ubuntu 12.04 LTS Latest version of TransmissionBitTorrent(?)

I'm still reading up on the use of bittorents and am getting a lot of print concerning the abandonment of bt's in favor of magnets. Yet, when I try to use magnets, I almost always get "file cannot be found". Seems I'm still "a babe in the woods" concerning the use of bittorrents. Oh, well, guess I need to keep reading on the subject.
THANX:
RICK

To rtmistler:

Appreciate your contribution. I agree with what you've said. Just makes sense!! As I am still learning about the use of BT's, any and all info I receive is considered. I am having problems "opening" the 'listening port(?)". timl offered a "fix", however, those commands did not work for my laptop. In the above post, I listed my laptop's specs in regards to BT's. Any suggestions?
THANK YOU:
RICK

rtmistler 04-15-2014 11:39 AM

Given that error, to me it sounds as if the problem is within your system. For instance if you were on some network which blocked torrent traffic, you wouldn't get that particular error, the logical network port on your machine would open, it just wouldn't be able to successfully reach any remote peers.

I suspect that you are in a configuration where you have to run the torrent application as sudo, or root. Someone of greater scope may be able to explain how to not have that happen. I can run torrent as myself, and that is preferable.

So I would try to run it as either sudo or root and if it does work without the error, please report that and then please someone else reply and indicate what changes the OP ought to make to correct that, because you should not be running apps always as root, that's not the desired way.

John VV 04-15-2014 01:22 PM

Quote:


Does TBT have the proper software to use a "magnet? The majority of the time, it just reads out "file can't be found"!!
for software

"The Pirate Bay" has fedora 20
https://thepiratebay.se/torrent/9360...ora_20_x64_DVD

and ubuntu 12 LTS
but 12 lts is a bit OLD
https://thepiratebay.se/torrent/7223..._12.04_LTS_x86

69Rixter 04-15-2014 05:04 PM

To ANYONE:

Cannot get "port" to open. I'm seeking fixes/suggestions. BTW, I'm still downloading BT's, but it's usually pretty slow and can only seed when torrent is downloading. I'm rather new to BT's, so it may be something I need to learn. Any positive steps toward resolving this issue would be appreciated. HP2000-210us Ubuntu 12.04LTS TransmissionBitTorrent
THANX:
Rick

P.S. Have been to many forums researching, but must admit, most of what I read is either too technical, or just sounds like B.S. to me!!

69Rixter 04-15-2014 05:17 PM

To John VV:

Looked up the link you posted.[https://thepiratebay.se/torrent/7223..._12.04_LTS_x86]. Is this an "upgrade" to TBT? #1.Do I need this. #2. Will this solve problem w/ opening port? #3. Can I run this app in terminal? No offence intended, but I don't just download "anything". Anyway, THANX for the tip! BTW, I will, very soon, be installing/running LinuxMint or Pinguy. Will this programs(TBT) work the same in either of those distros? Appreciate your time, John!
Take Care:
Rick

John VV 04-15-2014 05:40 PM

Quote:

( the link to Ubuntu 12 LTS)is this an "upgrade" to TBT?
TPB = The Pirate Bay

do to forum RULES
i will ONLY post links to software and media that is under the "General Public License" or "CC-by-? "

The Pirate Bay is a torrent site
-- THE MOST FAMOUS ONE IN THE WORLD ! --

Quote:

Do I need this
well you ARE already running the computer operating system Ubuntu 12 LTS aren't you ?

Quote:

Will this solve problem w/ opening port?
how could a computer operating system "solve" opening a port"
Quote:

Can I run this app in terminal?
a computer operating system is NOT "an app"
you can NOT run it in a terminal
it is a Computer Operating System


as to opining a port
the default 6881
should have been auto set with the install of transmition

timl 04-15-2014 07:30 PM

Hi Rick, yup I copied those commands straight off my Pi which is running pidora. I think you are running ubuntu on the Pi which may use different commands. Probably worth reading through the link I posted to check on the relevant commands for your distro:

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Ip...ing%20iptables

Also it is worth spending some time perusing the manual relevant to your distro. From the command line type:

Quote:

man iptables
for plenty of info.

Cheers

69Rixter 04-16-2014 02:20 PM

To John VV:

Why are you being so condesending? I asked a simple question (to which you didn't reply): Is this an upgrade? I didn't question the validity of the site, nor the link. I didn't ask if the O.S would help solve my difficulties. I didn't insinuate the distro should 'DO EVERYTHING"!!! If, by using/installing the BT software provided in link, will this help? Plain and simple!! Perhaps I should have stated it that way to begin with. Again, you missed the main point: which is...what is this and what will it accomplish? And YES, you should ONLY suggest open source, verified information/programs (duh). (thought this was a given). NOW...the default port setting is 41513, I tried a few different ports (51250 & 32700) just to see if that would open/use eith-
er of those ports, which it didn't. So, somehow I must get the 'listening port" open, thereby increasing the 'traffic". What suggestions/applications would you suggest that will accomplish this feat? I WILL go back to your link and read it again. But, until I'm absolutely SURE of what it is/ what it will do, I'll defer installing it.
These are the specs for my laptop...[HP2000-210us---Ubuntu 12.04LTS---Transmission BitTorrent latest version(to my knowledge)] Yes, as of early April, 12.04 is an "old" distro. I will be moving on to either LinuxMint 16 or latest PINGUY! Until then, let me "fix" this promblem for doing so SHOULD help me gain a better understanding TBT.
THANK YOU:
RICK

69Rixter 04-16-2014 02:32 PM

to rtmistler:

OK, I've been reading. To date, I've found nothing directly concerning TBT. All of what I've read, so far, has been applied to 'general conditions"(so to speak). Went to TBT homepage and didn't come up with a SPECIFIC 'fix". A few other sites accomplished the same results. So, should I go back to TBT homepage and post my "problem" directly? If there is a 'fix" in the TBT site, I must have overlooked it. Once again, I'll post my laptop specs:

[HP2000-210us...12.04 Ubuntu LTS---Tranmission BitTorrent(latest version as far as I know)
Let me say this, in going around asking about various torrent clients, I was lead to believe VUZE is a much better client. Care to weigh in on that? Now that the trend is toward using magnet links, will it render "clients" obsolete?
THANX rtm:
Rick

69Rixter 04-16-2014 02:36 PM

EVERYONE:

I would like to solicit opinions of those currently using VUZE. I am currently using TBT and am running into what I thought would be a small problem, but now is turning into a major headache. So, I'd welcome views on both VUSE & TBT(or any "client)-good or bad.
THANK YOU:
Rick

cascade9 04-16-2014 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 69Rixter (Post 5153413)
Looked up the link you posted.[https://thepiratebay.se/torrent/7223..._12.04_LTS_x86]. Is this an "upgrade" to TBT? #1.Do I need this. #2. Will this solve problem w/ opening port? #3. Can I run this app in terminal?

Never, ever, _ever_ use TPB or any other torrent site to get an OS.

If its torrentable, get the link for the distributions site.

You never know what crap people have posted on public sites, you could be getting a rootkit with your OS.

You're already been caught once with a bad torrent (I assume, maybe you did a direct d/l)

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...ck-4175498203/

BTW, your link 404s, but to answer your questions-

1- what the hell is TBT? If its real, its just going to be some torrent to a ubuntu 12.04 LTS version..which if you're kept your ersion updated, will be older than what you already have.

2- No.

3- Its not an 'app', its a link to a torrent site.....

Quote:

Originally Posted by 69Rixter (Post 5154054)
If, by using/installing the BT software provided in link, will this help? Plain and simple!! Perhaps I should have stated it that way to begin with. Again, you missed the main point: which is...what is this and what will it accomplish

Ummm...at best its just a way to d/l a ubuntu 12.04 LTS .iso. At worst its a way to turn your computer into soem hackers plaything. Its not a link to any bitorent client.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 69Rixter (Post 5154068)
Let me say this, in going around asking about various torrent clients, I was lead to believe VUZE is a much better client. Care to weigh in on that? Now that the trend is toward using magnet links, will it render "clients" obsolete?

If I said I liked chaddar cheese, and I use it over gouda, does that make cheddar better than gouda? For me, yes. For you, who knows?

Just beause some people like application 'X' over 'Y' doesnt make 'X' bad, or 'Y' good.

Magnets link will NOT make torrent client obsolete. Browsers are not torrent clients (apart from opera, which is a browser with a torrent client built into it. No, dont bother, it will not fix your problem). You'll still need a torrent client to get the torrent.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 69Rixter (Post 5153405)
To ANYONE:

Cannot get "port" to open. I'm seeking fixes/suggestions. BTW, I'm still downloading BT's, but it's usually pretty slow and can only seed when torrent is downloading. I'm rather new to BT's, so it may be something I need to learn. Any positive steps toward resolving this issue would be appreciated. HP2000-210us Ubuntu 12.04LTS

You'll need to go into your router/moden to open the port.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 69Rixter (Post 5154054)
NOW...the default port setting is 41513, I tried a few different ports (51250 & 32700) just to see if that would open/use eith-
er of those ports, which it didn't. So, somehow I must get the 'listening port" open, thereby increasing the 'traffic". What suggestions/applications would you suggest that will accomplish this feat?

No applications will open your ports automatically (OK, I think UPNP can somehow, but I dont trust it or use it).

List your modem/router, and myself or someone else will link you to the correct page on portfoward.com.


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