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69Rixter 04-11-2014 02:46 PM

Transmission bittorrent use
 
Afternoon All:

If I'm in the wrong forum, please let me know; also if you would/could direct me to the proper forum, it would be appreciated.
Here goes:#1. Is there a way to use multiple "trackers" w/ transmission bittorent? #2. Why does "magnet" link almost never work? #3. Other than "Ask tracker for more peers"; is there any way to increase the amount of peers/seeds to a particular bittorrent?
RICK

timl 04-11-2014 06:29 PM

Hi, just in case you fell into a trap I encountered with transmission (apologies if you crossed this bridge already)...if you look at edit->preferences->network there is a check box for "pick a random port every time Transmission is started". I didn't realise this and I found the port I had open was not the port being used by transmission. It's amazing how much more traffic you get with the port open :)

jamison20000e 04-11-2014 07:18 PM

Hi. I use to use Transmission because it was there but I much prefer to download and use Vuze: http://www.vuze.com/ best wishes and have fun. :)

69Rixter 04-11-2014 09:11 PM

to tim! to jamison20000e

I hope this isn't duplicate post.(?) Thanx for replying so quickly. I read up on TBT and was under the impression it was a "good" client ? OK, that's what I get for "reading up"!. So, I changed to "any port" as suggested and don't see any change. When I tested my 'port" it was reported "closed"? Is this supposed to be? So, yes, I will check out VUZE at suggested link. Thank you(jamison) for posting it. How can I get/use muliple trackers? To do that, must I get UTorrent? I rarely get more than 2-3 peers at-a-time and would like to have more. I'm a 'bitorrent" newbie, so I'll gladly take all the help I can get.
Thanx:
RICK

69Rixter 04-11-2014 09:24 PM

addendum to previous post:

When in "network" in "preferences" menu LISTENING PORT:

Port for Incoming Connections: 51413
port is closed
Pick a random port every time (checked}
Use UpnP or NAT-PMP port (checked)
Enable uTP for peer comm. (checked)

Are these setting correct?

Randicus Draco Albus 04-11-2014 11:14 PM

Magnet links do not work, because the torrents are Windows .exe files. Most sites that use magnet links provide it as an option. In those cases choose anything other than magnet link. If a site only has magnet links, vote with your feet so-to-speak and use other sites.

If you check the settings, Transmission will let you adjust many things, such as limits to peers seeding and leaching, down and upload speed, etc. Altering those settings may increase the speed of downloading a little.

timl 04-12-2014 12:38 AM

Hi 69Rixter, I should have been more clear in my previous post. I think you should uncheck "any port" and use the same port every time. EG. 51413.

You then need to get into your iptables and open TCP/UDP access to this port. Let us know if you need more info about opening the port.

John VV 04-12-2014 12:41 AM

Quote:

Magnet links do not work, because the torrents are Windows .exe files
?????????????????????????????????
what


it has been years since i used transmission
i am not sure it supports magnet links ( you also have to set firefox to use the torrent client for magnet links )
Magnet links work just fine for me .

if you use any QT gui tools you might like Ktorrent better


But that is just my opinion


as to ports
open them for the torrent client
also some ISP's block 6881
you might want to use ports in the 50,000 to 65,536 range ( 65,536 is the last port )

jamison20000e 04-12-2014 06:29 AM

I always just copy the magnet link from FFs address bar* to my torrent app.

69Rixter 04-12-2014 10:43 AM

To: JohnVV; tim; jamison and Draco:

THANK YOU all for weighing in. So, untiked 'any port". I'm a little vauge on "TCP/UDP" access? Let me ask; Are there any benefits to using a magnet link? And, I've seen and knew about an .exe file, just didn't know that all "magnets" were that format (duh!) [tnx RDA] John, care to elaborate on that statement? One of the questions I had has not been addressed; Is there a way to use multiple trackers for the same torrent'file" w/ TBT? Using "ASK TRACKER FOR MORE PEERS" does not seem to help. ANYONE... is TBT the best/better bitorrent client? Could anyone suggest their opinion of a "BEST" torrent client? Why? (offer reasons, please!)
Gentlemen; I appreciate your time and efforts. You've all been very helpful!!

RICK

John VV 04-12-2014 12:23 PM

Magnet links ARE NOT!!!!!!!!!!!! Microsoft .exe files

the never were and never will be !!!!!!!

torrents that are MS exe files are almost always viruses ( or trojaned windows software )


they are just a different type of torrent link

as to the "best"
that is 100% subjective
it is what you like
it is the one that dose what you need


for me it is ktorrent

some like Vuze
some like rtorrent
some like transmission


as to ports read the documentation on the client you are using
https://trac.transmissionbt.com/wiki

https://trac.transmissionbt.com/wiki...orwardingGuide

jamison20000e 04-12-2014 01:30 PM

Vuze is the best L:DL I think some torrents only use magnetic links?
http://wiki.vuze.com/w/Initial_Setup..._Vuze_Manually

Randicus Draco Albus 04-12-2014 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John VV (Post 5151290)
torrents that are MS exe files are almost always viruses ( or trojaned windows software )

My experience is thus:
Every magnet torrent I have seen has been an .exe file.
And I am not the only one. Recently I was involved in a discussion on another board were several other people have had the same experience.

So if magnet torrents are not for Windows, then there are not many real ones out there. I for one, am not going to search the entire internet looking for a small number of real torrents. It is much easier to avoid magnet links. Which is why I shall continue advising people to make their lives easier by avoiding them.

John VV 04-13-2014 12:25 AM

prime example that magnet links ARE NOT ms exe files
the Blender Foundation Movie " Sintel "
on TPB( it is GPL )
http://thepiratebay.se/torrent/5925652/Sintel
and the magnet link-- this is NOT a windows exe !!!!!
Code:



magnet:?xt=urn:btih:19288989fd99a41ad24f30c23b0271e0a825ac5f&dn=Sintel&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.openbittorrent.com%3A80&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.publicbt.com%3A80&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.istole.it%3A6969&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.ccc.de%3A80&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fopen.demonii.com%3A1337

where do you see the Microsoft EXE on that link above
that above link in on a binary ms program

69Rixter 04-13-2014 08:36 AM

Morning Fellas:

Well, seems as I've opened a "can of worms"? In reference to magnet links, I only posed the question of their usefulness because I rarely have gotten any to open. Whether they are exclusive to MSWin is irrelevant (for me). Again I'll ask, what, if any, advantage do magnet links possess? Personally, I'll just avoid them. Now, when configuring the "torrents", went to preferences, then to "network" where listed is "Listening Port"; in it the setting is (by default???) 51413; just below that is "TEST PORT"... which always indicates it is CLOSED??? Is this the way it should be? If not, what must I do to set it to correct? Should I be using a different number for "Port Used for Incoming Connections" ? As I stated before, I'm relatively new to the use of bittorrents. And, in my searches, I'm looking for a lot of "older"(more than 20 yrs.) material and finding it quite frustrating to obtain quality torrents. Any suggestions? Gentlemen, THANK YOU for your input. Each posting is a learning experience for me. It is much appreciated!!!!
Take Care:
RICK

John VV 04-13-2014 12:08 PM

almost all main sites use magnet links
they are distributed
and do not require a central "tracking" server

mind you you also have to be using software that can use them
5 years ago this was a problem

not any more

advantage is
normally more seeders
and they can NOT be blocked by the isp blocking the tracking server
-- the above TPB movie
they can not be blocked by blocking TPB

timl 04-13-2014 06:14 PM

The following commands open the port and restart iptables. After typing this you should find your port is open:

Quote:

sudo /sbin/iptables -I INPUT -p udp --destination-port 51413 -j ACCEPT
sudo /sbin/iptables -I INPUT -p tcp --destination-port 51413 -j ACCEPT
sudo service iptables restart
But you don't want to do that everytime you reboot. This link has some info about iptables on ubuntu and it does document a save command:

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Ip...ing%20iptables

Quote:

sudo iptables-save
You will have to do a bit of reading though to verify that is the correct command.

69Rixter 04-14-2014 01:11 PM

To : timl:

Alright. See, I din't think it should be closed, but didn't really know for sure. AGAIN, THANK YOU. As I am in the "infant" stages of using/learning about bittorrents, every post/every bit of info I receive is a learning experience. Pretty soon, I SHOULD be able to use/get around sucessfully w/ a BT. I still have a ways to go, but given time, 'llI get it down. Trying to learn, now, how to "seed" after the download has stopped. Different "sites" have different ways of doing that, so, right now, I'm trying to find which is the most effecient/easiest. Appreciate you replying/talking the time to help.
Take Care:
Rick

To JohnVV:

Does TBT have the proper software to use a "magnet? The majority of the time, it just reads out "file can't be found"!!
Take care:
Rick

rtmistler 04-15-2014 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Randicus Draco Albus (Post 5151533)
My experience is thus:
Every magnet torrent I have seen has been an .exe file.
And I am not the only one. Recently I was involved in a discussion on another board were several other people have had the same experience.

So if magnet torrents are not for Windows, then there are not many real ones out there. I for one, am not going to search the entire internet looking for a small number of real torrents. It is much easier to avoid magnet links. Which is why I shall continue advising people to make their lives easier by avoiding them.

The magnet link itself is not the exe file, the magnet link is a browswer shortcut to start the torrent, I use them when I see them available. Note also that when you look at the torrent if there are search results or some summary, that will tell you what files are included in the torrent. Yes, there are very, very many viruses, trojans, or junk mailings sent out via torrents. Another reason why you see them so much as magnet links is BECAUSE clicking on a magnet link typically auto-starts your default torrent application, loads that torrent, and starts grabbing it. Even if you don't say the final OK, there have been extremely high seeded torrents that I've gone to download and either not been too quick to click the final start when that window comes up in my torrent app and I've noticed that it actually has already started grabbing parts from peers.

In any case, just like browsing where you have to be careful about clicking happily away on everything, you also have to be careful that you don't click on magnet links where you don't know what they contain. And about my point regarding the auto-start and download before you hit click, one thing you also can do is to set your torrent application to not auto-run or auto-load anything once the torrent has been complete. Most of them, that's the default anyways.

I use transmission and have zero problems with it. I forget how much or little I modify the default settings; really I think I make sure it's not going to auto-run anything, and set up the target location where I place the downloaded torrents and that's about it. The other things to look at are whether or not you're going to seed. Sad to say, but I try not to do that because I use them when I have too from work to download a new Linux distro, but if I can grab it via FTP or other method, I'll do that. If I were to run torrent all the time and seed, then it would degrade our network, but if I have to run torrent to grab new software, I do that, and sometimes the IT guy stops by and asks me if I'm doing that intentionally, because they notice the ton of sessions that get run and they get concerned, it's a red flag too them.

Torrents are voluntary things, there are legitimate as well as not-legitimate content. I.e. movies, music, games, or other content which is not legally being shared, but is available on torrents. Legitimate ones may be things like openly available content or like a distribution of Linux. Either case, the seeding is voluntary, the more legitimate and more highly sought out contents are going to be more highly seeded. Again, these statistics are available from torrent search engines; they're not always correct, but they sometimes give an indication. So if you go to grab some very obtuse free software and the torrent just sits there for a few hours with no data, then it's probably a dead torrent or the one or two seeders are not online. That's just the way it is.

69Rixter 04-15-2014 11:19 AM

To timl:

The 'commands" you posted did not work. Entering the 3rd command I got [ unrecognized service ]. Did these commands work for your comp? And we should be clear that we are using TransmissionBitTorrent? I do appreciate your offer of help. Perhaps something in the commands was misprinted? Or perhaps I need to do something else as we may have different client's or O.S's. I'll post my laptop's specs concerning this thread.

HP2000-210us Ubuntu 12.04 LTS Latest version of TransmissionBitTorrent(?)

I'm still reading up on the use of bittorents and am getting a lot of print concerning the abandonment of bt's in favor of magnets. Yet, when I try to use magnets, I almost always get "file cannot be found". Seems I'm still "a babe in the woods" concerning the use of bittorrents. Oh, well, guess I need to keep reading on the subject.
THANX:
RICK

To rtmistler:

Appreciate your contribution. I agree with what you've said. Just makes sense!! As I am still learning about the use of BT's, any and all info I receive is considered. I am having problems "opening" the 'listening port(?)". timl offered a "fix", however, those commands did not work for my laptop. In the above post, I listed my laptop's specs in regards to BT's. Any suggestions?
THANK YOU:
RICK

rtmistler 04-15-2014 11:39 AM

Given that error, to me it sounds as if the problem is within your system. For instance if you were on some network which blocked torrent traffic, you wouldn't get that particular error, the logical network port on your machine would open, it just wouldn't be able to successfully reach any remote peers.

I suspect that you are in a configuration where you have to run the torrent application as sudo, or root. Someone of greater scope may be able to explain how to not have that happen. I can run torrent as myself, and that is preferable.

So I would try to run it as either sudo or root and if it does work without the error, please report that and then please someone else reply and indicate what changes the OP ought to make to correct that, because you should not be running apps always as root, that's not the desired way.

John VV 04-15-2014 01:22 PM

Quote:


Does TBT have the proper software to use a "magnet? The majority of the time, it just reads out "file can't be found"!!
for software

"The Pirate Bay" has fedora 20
https://thepiratebay.se/torrent/9360...ora_20_x64_DVD

and ubuntu 12 LTS
but 12 lts is a bit OLD
https://thepiratebay.se/torrent/7223..._12.04_LTS_x86

69Rixter 04-15-2014 05:04 PM

To ANYONE:

Cannot get "port" to open. I'm seeking fixes/suggestions. BTW, I'm still downloading BT's, but it's usually pretty slow and can only seed when torrent is downloading. I'm rather new to BT's, so it may be something I need to learn. Any positive steps toward resolving this issue would be appreciated. HP2000-210us Ubuntu 12.04LTS TransmissionBitTorrent
THANX:
Rick

P.S. Have been to many forums researching, but must admit, most of what I read is either too technical, or just sounds like B.S. to me!!

69Rixter 04-15-2014 05:17 PM

To John VV:

Looked up the link you posted.[https://thepiratebay.se/torrent/7223..._12.04_LTS_x86]. Is this an "upgrade" to TBT? #1.Do I need this. #2. Will this solve problem w/ opening port? #3. Can I run this app in terminal? No offence intended, but I don't just download "anything". Anyway, THANX for the tip! BTW, I will, very soon, be installing/running LinuxMint or Pinguy. Will this programs(TBT) work the same in either of those distros? Appreciate your time, John!
Take Care:
Rick

John VV 04-15-2014 05:40 PM

Quote:

( the link to Ubuntu 12 LTS)is this an "upgrade" to TBT?
TPB = The Pirate Bay

do to forum RULES
i will ONLY post links to software and media that is under the "General Public License" or "CC-by-? "

The Pirate Bay is a torrent site
-- THE MOST FAMOUS ONE IN THE WORLD ! --

Quote:

Do I need this
well you ARE already running the computer operating system Ubuntu 12 LTS aren't you ?

Quote:

Will this solve problem w/ opening port?
how could a computer operating system "solve" opening a port"
Quote:

Can I run this app in terminal?
a computer operating system is NOT "an app"
you can NOT run it in a terminal
it is a Computer Operating System


as to opining a port
the default 6881
should have been auto set with the install of transmition

timl 04-15-2014 07:30 PM

Hi Rick, yup I copied those commands straight off my Pi which is running pidora. I think you are running ubuntu on the Pi which may use different commands. Probably worth reading through the link I posted to check on the relevant commands for your distro:

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Ip...ing%20iptables

Also it is worth spending some time perusing the manual relevant to your distro. From the command line type:

Quote:

man iptables
for plenty of info.

Cheers

69Rixter 04-16-2014 02:20 PM

To John VV:

Why are you being so condesending? I asked a simple question (to which you didn't reply): Is this an upgrade? I didn't question the validity of the site, nor the link. I didn't ask if the O.S would help solve my difficulties. I didn't insinuate the distro should 'DO EVERYTHING"!!! If, by using/installing the BT software provided in link, will this help? Plain and simple!! Perhaps I should have stated it that way to begin with. Again, you missed the main point: which is...what is this and what will it accomplish? And YES, you should ONLY suggest open source, verified information/programs (duh). (thought this was a given). NOW...the default port setting is 41513, I tried a few different ports (51250 & 32700) just to see if that would open/use eith-
er of those ports, which it didn't. So, somehow I must get the 'listening port" open, thereby increasing the 'traffic". What suggestions/applications would you suggest that will accomplish this feat? I WILL go back to your link and read it again. But, until I'm absolutely SURE of what it is/ what it will do, I'll defer installing it.
These are the specs for my laptop...[HP2000-210us---Ubuntu 12.04LTS---Transmission BitTorrent latest version(to my knowledge)] Yes, as of early April, 12.04 is an "old" distro. I will be moving on to either LinuxMint 16 or latest PINGUY! Until then, let me "fix" this promblem for doing so SHOULD help me gain a better understanding TBT.
THANK YOU:
RICK

69Rixter 04-16-2014 02:32 PM

to rtmistler:

OK, I've been reading. To date, I've found nothing directly concerning TBT. All of what I've read, so far, has been applied to 'general conditions"(so to speak). Went to TBT homepage and didn't come up with a SPECIFIC 'fix". A few other sites accomplished the same results. So, should I go back to TBT homepage and post my "problem" directly? If there is a 'fix" in the TBT site, I must have overlooked it. Once again, I'll post my laptop specs:

[HP2000-210us...12.04 Ubuntu LTS---Tranmission BitTorrent(latest version as far as I know)
Let me say this, in going around asking about various torrent clients, I was lead to believe VUZE is a much better client. Care to weigh in on that? Now that the trend is toward using magnet links, will it render "clients" obsolete?
THANX rtm:
Rick

69Rixter 04-16-2014 02:36 PM

EVERYONE:

I would like to solicit opinions of those currently using VUZE. I am currently using TBT and am running into what I thought would be a small problem, but now is turning into a major headache. So, I'd welcome views on both VUSE & TBT(or any "client)-good or bad.
THANK YOU:
Rick

cascade9 04-16-2014 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 69Rixter (Post 5153413)
Looked up the link you posted.[https://thepiratebay.se/torrent/7223..._12.04_LTS_x86]. Is this an "upgrade" to TBT? #1.Do I need this. #2. Will this solve problem w/ opening port? #3. Can I run this app in terminal?

Never, ever, _ever_ use TPB or any other torrent site to get an OS.

If its torrentable, get the link for the distributions site.

You never know what crap people have posted on public sites, you could be getting a rootkit with your OS.

You're already been caught once with a bad torrent (I assume, maybe you did a direct d/l)

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...ck-4175498203/

BTW, your link 404s, but to answer your questions-

1- what the hell is TBT? If its real, its just going to be some torrent to a ubuntu 12.04 LTS version..which if you're kept your ersion updated, will be older than what you already have.

2- No.

3- Its not an 'app', its a link to a torrent site.....

Quote:

Originally Posted by 69Rixter (Post 5154054)
If, by using/installing the BT software provided in link, will this help? Plain and simple!! Perhaps I should have stated it that way to begin with. Again, you missed the main point: which is...what is this and what will it accomplish

Ummm...at best its just a way to d/l a ubuntu 12.04 LTS .iso. At worst its a way to turn your computer into soem hackers plaything. Its not a link to any bitorent client.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 69Rixter (Post 5154068)
Let me say this, in going around asking about various torrent clients, I was lead to believe VUZE is a much better client. Care to weigh in on that? Now that the trend is toward using magnet links, will it render "clients" obsolete?

If I said I liked chaddar cheese, and I use it over gouda, does that make cheddar better than gouda? For me, yes. For you, who knows?

Just beause some people like application 'X' over 'Y' doesnt make 'X' bad, or 'Y' good.

Magnets link will NOT make torrent client obsolete. Browsers are not torrent clients (apart from opera, which is a browser with a torrent client built into it. No, dont bother, it will not fix your problem). You'll still need a torrent client to get the torrent.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 69Rixter (Post 5153405)
To ANYONE:

Cannot get "port" to open. I'm seeking fixes/suggestions. BTW, I'm still downloading BT's, but it's usually pretty slow and can only seed when torrent is downloading. I'm rather new to BT's, so it may be something I need to learn. Any positive steps toward resolving this issue would be appreciated. HP2000-210us Ubuntu 12.04LTS

You'll need to go into your router/moden to open the port.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 69Rixter (Post 5154054)
NOW...the default port setting is 41513, I tried a few different ports (51250 & 32700) just to see if that would open/use eith-
er of those ports, which it didn't. So, somehow I must get the 'listening port" open, thereby increasing the 'traffic". What suggestions/applications would you suggest that will accomplish this feat?

No applications will open your ports automatically (OK, I think UPNP can somehow, but I dont trust it or use it).

List your modem/router, and myself or someone else will link you to the correct page on portfoward.com.

rtmistler 04-16-2014 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 69Rixter (Post 5154068)
to rtmistler:

OK, I've been reading. To date, I've found nothing directly concerning TBT. All of what I've read, so far, has been applied to 'general conditions"(so to speak). Went to TBT homepage and didn't come up with a SPECIFIC 'fix". A few other sites accomplished the same results. So, should I go back to TBT homepage and post my "problem" directly? If there is a 'fix" in the TBT site, I must have overlooked it. Once again, I'll post my laptop specs:

[HP2000-210us...12.04 Ubuntu LTS---Tranmission BitTorrent(latest version as far as I know)
Let me say this, in going around asking about various torrent clients, I was lead to believe VUZE is a much better client. Care to weigh in on that? Now that the trend is toward using magnet links, will it render "clients" obsolete?
THANX rtm:
Rick

Regarding VUZE; sorry, my only experience with with Transmission. Formerly I did use some other client, but I've long since forgotten it, and it was many years ago. Either case, they both worked. I do use transmission now and it works fine for me.

I'm not sure if you are referring to Transmission when you use the term TBT.

I'm also not sure how this all has evolved, it seems confusing.

If what you have isn't working, or isn't working correctly, then try removing it from your system using the system's package management software. And then try to install it cleanly using the system's package management software. For instance, say you have Ubuntu, then use their synaptic package manager tool to remove and re-install. I'd also not install more than one bit torrent client at once. Many's the time that I've fallen into disarray because I've installed two or three of the same types of applications and/or services where they try to register their selves with the system in various ways, only to find that there were conflicts or unintentional problems because each application assumed it was the default as well as the only one fulfilling the particular function it was intended for.

Maybe back up and answer this question first: "Did this ever work?" If that answer is Yes, then what was installed and what's changed, or what can you do to get back to that point?

69Rixter 04-16-2014 04:20 PM

to cascade:

LOL LOL LOL LOL...I just can't win here. NO matter what I post, no matter how I say it, someone ALWAYS gets pissy. Man, all I've gotten is contradiction from one person to the next. I AM NOT CRITICIZING ANYONE!! I AM asking questions that I don't know the answers to. JOHN VV gets pissed/condescending when I question what it is(posted link)and if it will help. Why? I don't know. You (cascade) come along and vehemently denounce using that link/download. OK, I'm GLAD I ask questions..especially when it comes to downloading anything. IF it BOTHERS you, then DON'T REPLY! OK, at the risk of PISSING OFF EVERYONE,(which, at this point, I don't give a damn) let's TRY to accomplish getting the 'listening port(s)" open on my laptop. Below is the readout...ANYONE care to explain and offer SOLUTIONS?

~$ netstat -ntl
Active Internet connections (only servers)
Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address Foreign Address State
tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:51250 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN
tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:53 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN
tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:631 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN
tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:9091 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN
tcp6 0 0 :::51250 :::* LISTEN
tcp6 0 0 ::1:631 :::* LISTEN
Am I correct in believing NONE of these are 'open"?

I just viewed a video on youtube concerning opening a port(s) w/ Ubuntu (command line). John VV, contrary to your condescending remark, this person claims opening ports FROM THE COMMAND LINE CAN be done and shows how! So, in response, it has been my understanding/experience that configuring any Linux based program does not require such involved/extended operations. PLEASE, PLEASE EVERYONE... let's KEEP IT SIMPLE!!! NOW, have I got everyone's panties in-a-bind? GEEEZ!! Let's start over!
QUESTION: What must I do in order to "open" listening ports. [HP2000-210us...Ubuntu 12.04LTS...TransmissionBitTorrent]
Cascade...TBT? TransmissionBitTorrent..that's what the hell TBT is. To answer your other question...I MAY have gotten a corrupted O.S.(12.04LTS), however, if I did, I got it straight from the Ubuntu site download!? As you suggest, go straight to the source...I almost ALWAYS do just that!! Oh, one last question to EVERYONE...what else can I possibly do to ensure I get you/everyone completely and utterly screaming mad? LOL LOL LOL LOL EVERYONE....have a good day!!
THANX:
Rick

69Rixter 04-16-2014 04:49 PM

To rtmistler:

Afternoon. Did you read my post to cascade and johnVV? Man, this "problem" has just gotten WAY OUT-OF-HAND.
OK, to answer YOUR questions. Yes TBT is transmissionBitTorrent client. #2. I have ONLY TBT. I am aware of how similar programs can conflict w/ one another. # Fair enough...I asked for an opinion...and that's what you provided! The reason I asked about VUZE, I'd read it's praises and wanted comment from those who have/are using it. From a few different sites, I'd read it was 'rated" the best!(?) Would it solve my problems...don't know...I'm still "researching" it. OK, remove/re-install the program...yes...I've used that procedure on other programs, but do you really feel it will solve "opening listening ports"? Anyway, I'll try it. Do YOU have any suggestions/ideas on how to get the 'ports" open? (please read post previous to this).[Information provided in previous post] After reading, is there anything I can do to facilitate your ire? LOL LOL LOL LOL!!! Take Care
THANX:
Rick

69Rixter 04-16-2014 06:23 PM

Hey ALL:

I'd like everyone to view this link https://forum.transmissionbt.com/vie...php?f=4&t=9184 This is the kind of bullsh-- I'm speaking of. The poor fella asking the same question I have, is lead on a long and fruitless trek by a 'wannabe". This is why I keep posting "KEEP IT SIMPLE"!!! I cannot stress this enough!! Linux IS SUPPOSED to be simple/easy. Let's keep it that way!! I realize TBT isn't Linux, but Linux choose it as one of their "prefered" open-source programs. I will assume for it's simplicity and stability??? I DO NOT have a clue as to why almost EVERY program I have installed on 12.04 has been a "journey through hell"!! I am getting rid of 12.04 very soon. In the meantime, however, I want to "fix" the programs I have trouble with...so I can learn the systems better, so in the future, I may/can solve problems on my own. John VV, cascade and a few others...get over yourselves! If it's such a bother, and when someone asks a question that pisses you off, just leave the site!! See, that's SIMPLE!!!!!!! NO ONE has a gun to your head, you are not getting paid (I don't think) so this is not a case of needing to make a living, you are NOT compelled to be here!! For those of us wanting to learn this system by asking questions, folks like you employing condescending/belittling/snide attitudes kill the very spirit that Linux tries to stand on. If I/we 'question" anything posted here, it is because we DON'T understand...; if someone wanting to learn/understand twists your panties, then get the f#@* out of here! I've had it trying to appease those petty "attitudes". From now on, we ALL should employ some patience. ALRIGHT? OK, I still have the problem with "opening" listening ports. Can anyone help me solve this? And 'LET'S KEEP IT SIMPLE"
THANK YOU:
RICK

cascade9 04-17-2014 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 69Rixter (Post 5154127)
I just viewed a video on youtube concerning opening a port(s) w/ Ubuntu (command line). John VV, contrary to your condescending remark, this person claims opening ports FROM THE COMMAND LINE CAN be done and shows how! So, in response, it has been my understanding/experience that configuring any Linux based program does not require such involved/extended operations. PLEASE, PLEASE EVERYONE... let's KEEP IT SIMPLE!!!

Yeah, that doesnt help at all.

If youre going to reference a youtube video you should at least provide the link.

To keep it simple, the port you are trying to use is open in the OS, its not open in your modem/router.

If you have UPP turned on in the rouer, it _may_ be possible to open the ports from command line...if UPNP isnt turned on, nope, you can not do it.

I dont tust UPNP anyway, a few times I've troubleshot computers with similar issues with torrents (and other P2P software) with UPNP turned on, doing a manual port forward on the modem/router has always worked.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 69Rixter (Post 5154127)
JOHN VV gets pissed/condescending when I question what it is(posted link)and if it will help. Why? I don't know. You (cascade) come along and vehemently denounce using that link/download.

I'm not sure why JohnVV posted those links, maybe it was an example of a magnet link (that should work).

I only posted a 'dont not use' because I've seen you get caught with bad P2p/torrent/'pirate' d/ls before.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 69Rixter (Post 5154184)
I'd like everyone to view this link https://forum.transmissionbt.com/vie...php?f=4&t=9184 This is the kind of bullsh-- I'm speaking of. The poor fella asking the same question I have, is lead on a long and fruitless trek by a 'wannabe".

Ihavent read the whole thread, but really, the beginning makes me think that the thread was started by someone who is a little more advanced than you.

The poster is having problems getting his/her ports forwarded from his/her modem/router. You arent even trying to open the ports on your modem/router, but are trying to get the OS and/or torrent client to 'fix' a non-OS and non-torrent client problem.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 69Rixter (Post 5154140)
Yes TBT is transmissionBitTorrent client. #2. I have ONLY TBT. I am aware of how similar programs can conflict w/ one another. # Fair enough...I asked for an opinion...and that's what you provided! The reason I asked about VUZE, I'd read it's praises and wanted comment from those who have/are using it. From a few different sites, I'd read it was 'rated" the best!(?) Would it solve my problems...don't know...I'm still "researching" it.

Why not just call it transmission rather than trying to create yet another TLA (three-letter acronym).

Yeah, sometimes programs can conflict, but I've never had that issue with torrent clients. I dont recall having that problem with linux software at all, and I've had 6+ audio players, 4+ video players, etc. al installed at once, but maybe I'm forgetting something.

But Vuze will not fix your problems.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 69Rixter (Post 5154140)
OK, remove/re-install the program...yes...I've used that procedure on other programs, but do you really feel it will solve "opening listening ports"? Anyway, I'll try it. Do YOU have any suggestions/ideas on how to get the 'ports" open?

Quote:

Originally Posted by cascade9 (Post 5154082)
List your modem/router, and myself or someone else will link you to the correct page on portfoward.com.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 69Rixter (Post 5154184)
John VV, cascade and a few others...get over yourselves!

No need to get all worked up because you dont want to post information that can help the issue.

Its not like the fake file you got. I can see reasons why you never posted a link to where you got it so that someone else could check if its fake, as that would be at least 'dodgy' under forum rules, but now I'm beginning to think you want your solutions to fit with your preconceived ideas of what the solution should be.

69Rixter 04-17-2014 11:10 AM

Morning cascade9:

First, I don't possess any 'preconceived notions" of what the solution should be. I'm just trying to get the solution. That said, it has been my experience that "fixes" don't have to be long, drawn out, multiple-step operations. Previously, when I did achieve 'fixes" they were of one or 2 commands and/or just an add-on; tiking something to activate, and presto...problem solved. When you keep referring to " my getting a bad P2P torrent", I'm not sure what your citing, unless your referring to magnets not working/opening? I do wonder if I downloaded a corrupt copy of 12.04, but that was directly from the Ubuntu site and was not a torrent. So yes, you do understand why I'm hesitant to just download "anything"; something JohnVV to offence to?
OK, to hell with this. I'll soon be moving on to another and hopefully, better operating O.S. Trying to get a direct answer, or at least, even some ideas on a "fix" has been an exercise in futility. Seems all I get here is people wanting to 'bitch" at me. Seriously,go back and look at all the posts; show me where someone said "check this" or "look into this" or 'perhaps this is what you need to do"? I only hope by going to another Linux distro, I still don't end up with the same problems I'm experiencing now. Right from the onset, 12.04 has been a plethora of broken programs; programs that have to be configured to use and programs within the O.S. that had to be tweaked that, in my opinion, should have been operational right out-of-the-box. And, of course I get frustrated...wouldn't you? You see, my intro to Linux was 10.04 and I was enthralled with it's performance. I did not have to "fix" anything, and if I did have a problem, I went to either the 'home' Ubuntu help page or the forum and the problem was corrected/eliminated immediately (Well..after doing a minimal amount of reading) Unfortunately, that has NOT been the case w/12.04.
Thanx for all your input.

RICK

rtmistler 04-17-2014 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 69Rixter (Post 5154140)
To rtmistler:

Afternoon. Did you read my post to cascade and johnVV? Man, this "problem" has just gotten WAY OUT-OF-HAND.
OK, to answer YOUR questions. Yes TBT is transmissionBitTorrent client. #2. I have ONLY TBT. I am aware of how similar programs can conflict w/ one another. # Fair enough...I asked for an opinion...and that's what you provided! The reason I asked about VUZE, I'd read it's praises and wanted comment from those who have/are using it. From a few different sites, I'd read it was 'rated" the best!(?) Would it solve my problems...don't know...I'm still "researching" it. OK, remove/re-install the program...yes...I've used that procedure on other programs, but do you really feel it will solve "opening listening ports"? Anyway, I'll try it. Do YOU have any suggestions/ideas on how to get the 'ports" open? (please read post previous to this).[Information provided in previous post] After reading, is there anything I can do to facilitate your ire? LOL LOL LOL LOL!!! Take Care
THANX:
Rick

I don't always read lengthy posts in full detail, and clearly not if things start going off topic, discussion becomes unfriendly, or I see tons of capital letters and exclamation marks.

My suggestion about the port issue is the same I believe I offered before in post #21; which is to try and run the application as root.

Best of luck, I think that's really all I can offer on the topic, I have no preference, nor experience with other torrent apps.

69Rixter 04-17-2014 02:02 PM

To rtmistler:

OK, fair enough! THANX:

Rick

cascade9 04-18-2014 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 69Rixter (Post 5154533)
When you keep referring to " my getting a bad P2P torrent", I'm not sure what your citing, unless your referring to magnets not working/opening?

That 'BRRip XviD' file you were asking about-

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...ck-4175498203/

Maybe you got it from a torrent, maybe you're got it from a direct d/l....either way, you're ended up with a dodgy file.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 69Rixter (Post 5154533)
First, I don't possess any 'preconceived notions" of what the solution should be. I'm just trying to get the solution. That said, it has been my experience that "fixes" don't have to be long, drawn out, multiple-step operations. Previously, when I did achieve 'fixes" they were of one or 2 commands and/or just an add-on; tiking something to activate, and presto...problem solved.

I dont have 'preconceived notions', followed by your preconceived notions.

I just dont see what is so hard about giving feedback.

I dont mind if you think my tone is nasty, there are others around like rtmistler who have given advice also which you dont respond to. A better response to rtmistler would be 'I've tried to run it as root and it fixed the problem' or 'I've tried to run it as root and it didnt fix the problem'. Its not rocket science to run it as root, and if you are having problems doing that you can ask. 'OK, fair enough' doesnt tell us anything...which is part of why you're got a huge mess.

Personally, I think that rtmistler is wrong, and running your torrent client as 'root' will not help you.....the client is running, its connecting, just you have limited seeds/peers and probably awful speeds. Which is typical of 'firewalled' torrents.....while its possible your blocked by an OS firewall, I doubt it, if that was the case you shouldnt connect at all. The firewall is probably in your router/modem (almost all have one). You can get around the router/modem firewall with port forwarding. You dont need to forward the ports for things like web browsing, but for torrents (and most other P2P software) forwarding your ports makes a huge difference. You're get more seesds/peers, and higher speeds.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 69Rixter (Post 5151675)
And, in my searches, I'm looking for a lot of "older"(more than 20 yrs.) material and finding it quite frustrating to obtain quality torrents.

20 year old content tends to have lower seeds/peers than current content even in the period just after releases. Less people want to d/l a movie or series from the 1990s than people who want to d/ content from 2014.

With all torrents, people d/l content, some people seed it for a while, then remove the torrent. If you go looking at torrents posted over a year ago, the number of seeds/peers is always very low comapred to the 1st week of release, in part because people remove the content/torrent for various reasons. Also there are always lots of 'hit and run' users, people who just d/l than remove the torrent as soon as its reached 100%/seeding.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 69Rixter (Post 5150819)
#3. Other than "Ask tracker for more peers"; is there any way to increase the amount of peers/seeds to a particular bittorrent?

You can check the number of seeds/peers on many of the tracker sites. If your tracker site says that there is 100 seeds, and you can only connect to 2, you're got issues. If it says there are 2 seeds and you can only connect to 1, there is probably no issues at all.

I've had this issue myself when I run torrents, and I've fixed it for plenty of other people. Not just for torrents, but also for other P2P software.

rtmistler 04-18-2014 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 69Rixter (Post 5150819)
Afternoon All:

If I'm in the wrong forum, please let me know; also if you would/could direct me to the proper forum, it would be appreciated.
Here goes:#1. Is there a way to use multiple "trackers" w/ transmission bittorent? #2. Why does "magnet" link almost never work? #3. Other than "Ask tracker for more peers"; is there any way to increase the amount of peers/seeds to a particular bittorrent?
RICK

Sounds like this has gone way past the original questions. I agree with cascade9's recommendations and statements. I also feel that the age of a torrent is important. It may not be the age of the content; for instance at the anniversary of a historical event, content related to that history may become popular for a few weeks and show this in torrents; however they will likely be new torrents, not very old torrents which end up getting seeded more. The reason for that is the originator of the older torrent may no longer be seeding, and many others may also not be seeding; so it's more likely that a different person originates a new torrent pretty much containing the same content as the original. Cascade's points are that torrents are voluntary, as well as random. It depends on the popularity of that particular content at a given point. You can therefore not force a tracker to give you more peers, and the only way to increase peers and seeds for a particular torrent is for you to have most or all of that torrent's content and to "be" a seeder yourself. Most person's problems there are, they want the torrent content and are never receiving it.

@OP:

What specific problems are you facing, right now?

Another suggestion is to leave it up for a long time and see if it ever gets seeded. There have been very obtuse things I've tried to grab, to find that the torrent doesn't download. I happened to leave the torrent active for a long time like over a month, and it didn't "slowly" get over to my system, at some random point the content became available and next I checked my system, that torrent was complete.

69Rixter 04-18-2014 12:06 PM

To cascade9:

Turning this into a rebuttle format is not solving anything. I'm TRYING to get info on how to 'open" the listening ports so that I can increase 'traffic". I am aware of the seeds/leeches criteria. I'm also aware older torrents can be difficult to obtain. I've serched many torrent sites and have just had to give up on finding certain "files". They are either just not there or they are not exactly what I'm seeking. Yet, even with torrents I do dowload, I get very slow download/upload rates. I believe if I can "open" the listening port(s), this will facilitate a major improvement. All I'm wanting to do. now, is get the proper command to open the port(s). I came across this [sudo iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --(port#) -j ACCEPT]. Could this be what I'm looking for?
Look, I'm not here to start arguments/fights/ill feelings. Should someone gets pissed because I question something they propose, then so be it! I have to 'learn" just as they did and I will ask questions! I'd (or anyone for that matter) be a fool to download just anything someone tells me to. Would you or JohnVV do that?
So, now, could the 'command" listed previously, solve the listening port problem? Yes or No? And Why? I don't believe I'm out of line asking 'WHY".
THANK YOU:
Rick

To JohnVV:

To bad your 'jacked", but that's your problem!! Asking 'why" or "how" is what any of us must do in order to learn.
THANX:
Rick

69Rixter 04-20-2014 08:37 AM

To ANYONE:

I've come across this: sudo iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --(port#) -j ACCEPT. Is anyone familiar with this command? Has anyone used it and , if so, did it 'open" the listening port(s)? I'm still in search of an 'fix" that would open the listening ports and would like suggestions. Have read quite a few articles concerning the use of bitorrents with the understanding opening these ports would increase traffic. The torrents I've downloaded have been extremely slow in both downloading and uploading. I'm aware of the amount of seeds affecting d/l-u/l. so, my belief is that opening said ports will increase traffic and thereby increase the rates of 'capture". So, what can I do to "open" ports/or increase the traffic response? Also, could anyone direct me to a torrent site that MAY cater to older/less popular "files"? I've been to most of the well known sites and cannot find a few certain titles I wish to have. I realize I'm "looking for a needle-in-a-haystack", and was wondering if anyone knew of/have used such a site?
Thank You:
Rick

69Rixter 04-22-2014 05:21 PM

Hey:

I sure hope there's someone at this site that knows about transmission bittorrent. For a few weeks now, I've been asking how to "open" listening ports. Been reading a lot of forums. Yet, info I'm reading is confusing and, quite often, contradictory. Well, if that isn't enough of a problem, transbit kept "stalling". Today, I "tested" torrents with very high seed/leech ratios. Couldn't get those to even download, plus, I've had very little success (maybe twice) using "magnets". NOW, all I get is, on 4 diffent torrents , "idle". Nothing downloading!! Took transbit off (removed), will re-install tomorrow, but in meantime, could someone explain this latest failure and help with getting "ports" open. Please, don't tell me the ports are open via default, everytime I've checked "ports" in transbit, it indicated they are "closed".
Thank You:
Rick

jamison20000e 04-22-2014 07:22 PM

http://www.vuze.com/download.php (you may have to click the orange box at the link from my last post to have it detect you need the Linux download(?)) extract Vuze folder run Vuze from in side, then when it's running click "File" from menu then "Open" then "URL, Magnet or Hash..." and paste the magnetic link...

69Rixter 04-23-2014 01:45 PM

To jamison20000e:

Thank You for replying. Are you indicating I should 'remove" TBT, then install Vuze? If so, then let me state "one fix at-a-time, please"! Let's see if i can get TBT configured correctly...first. If not, then, of course, it's would benefit me to move on to another client. Curious, how familiar are you w/ Vuze? In other words, please extend your opinion of Vuse, both good and bad.
Thank You:
Rick

jamison20000e 04-23-2014 02:28 PM

1 Attachment(s)
You can have both (or many, many,) installed. I sometimes have a distro that automatically comes with a torrent downloading software like Ktorrent for example but have only use Vuze for many years. It also auto updates (helps with security) and if you whant more privacy it's a breeze to encrypt the stream. The options\preferences for it offer three choices: "Beginner," "Intermediate" or "Advanced." Can mosesclick the thumbnail to see mine. ;-)

69Rixter 04-23-2014 03:01 PM

To: jamison20000e:

Thanx for your timely reply. Ok, I was looking at ktorrent just before I came here. Funny, when you open the UbuntuSoftwareCenter, you find Qtorrent/Ktorrent and Vuze all have a "better" rating than TransmissionBitTorrent. Here's the problem I'm having w/TBT. Now, all of the sudden, no torrents will open...they just stay in the "idle" mode. Next, I've been told I need to port forward, yet when I ask about "how to" and have posted a 'command" SUPPOSEDLY to accomplish port-forwarding, I've gotten no response. I've been to MANY, MANY forums seeking the definitive answer to this dilema, and must confess, they have been either far too long and/or very confusing/contradictory. So, Ktorrent has beginner's/intermediate plaforms to run in? Yet, you run Vuze and are (it seems) quite attached to and satisfied with it. Could you explain why? Would you suggest it for me? I'll tell you, I'm somewhat of a newbie to bitorrents and,really, could use all the help I can get.
Take Care:
Rick

jamison20000e 04-23-2014 03:35 PM

Linux is freedom and freedom is work. I'm no guru so I tend to get frustrated if a problem takes too long and I still can't fix it I personally move onto another solution e.g: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compari...orrent_clients
With Linuces you can't try them all at once to find your favorite but separately (for the most part:) run it live, install them for awhile, virtual machines,,,; but, with bittorent software you can have ten+ installed and try them all to decide. :)

69Rixter 04-24-2014 12:49 PM

Afternoon jamison20000e:

Thanx for the attachment. Seems, just by looking at the thumbnail, it's (Vuze) fairly simple/straightforward. I'm going to ask if you've had to configure "open" ports?. I believe that's what's causing my problem. I would prefer addressing this problem w/TBT before I would move on to another client. Reason being, why 'take the problem with me"! Thank You for the info and the prompt response!
Later:
Rick

ANYONE

Can you provide help or information with "port forwarding? The reading I've done is either far too lengthy or is downright confusing. I'm sure there are a few SIMPLE commands that can execute to achieve my goal. In other words; it can't be as complicated as some of the tutorials/help forums have indicated. [HP2000-210us Ubuntu12.04 Transmission (TBT]
THANX:
Rick

jamison20000e 04-24-2014 05:05 PM

Hi. For the most part my networking skills end at connecting (:redface: and googling for help) and I can almost remember having issues with magnetic links some long time ago with other apps, perhaps how I found Vuze it's always just worked out of the box although in the early days I did have to install java one time to get it started.


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