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Old 04-22-2014, 05:38 PM   #1
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Transmission Bittorrent


Hello:

I'm somewhat new to bittorrent use. For a few weeks now, I've been trying to "open" listening port(s). Everytime I've checked a port #(transmissiom bittorrent), it indicates ports are "closed". Then today, I can't even get it to download a torrent. With 4 torrents tried, every one is "idle". Yet, I tried one torrent that had a high seed/leech ratio (140s/83l) and couldn't get it to load into transbit. The 4 other torrents I had all indicate "idle" and have done so for quite some time (in one case almost a week now). So you can see, I'm really in need of some expert help. Something's, obviously, not right!
[HP2000-210us Ubuntu12.04LTS transmission bittorrent client]
THANK YOU:
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Old 04-22-2014, 06:01 PM   #2
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Close the program first, then go to your user directory enable show hidden files/folders.
In the folder .config you will find a folder named transmission, delete it, after running the program again it will be back to the default settings and will recreate that folder.

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Old 04-22-2014, 06:03 PM   #3
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what torrents ?
some ARE traps set up by the likes of "prenda law" ( or other "trolls")

now if it is say the Ubuntu torrent from Ubuntu's site
-- that is a different matter --

there are tracker and DHT torrents ,both need ports ( tcp and udp)
most instructions ARE for Debian/ubuntu

however :
transmission installed from your package manager should NOT need any setting up .
UPnP or zeroconf should auto set everything

have you read through the transmission forum
https://forum.transmissionbt.com/
 
Old 04-22-2014, 07:57 PM   #4
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To ukiuki:

OK, that's one thing I know how to do, but let me ask this? Would removing, then re-installing TransBitTor accomplish the same thing? (I've already done this) Thanx for the info!
Rick

to JohnVV:

Well, John, do you want a SPECIFIC list of the torrents? Does it even matter? OK, IF everything is "copacetic" when installing TransBitTor (hence referred to by TBT), why then are listening ports "closed"? Also, I've been told I need to do a "port forwarding: Does this command seem to be what I want/need?
Enable IP Forwarding:

sysctl net.ipv4.ip_forward=1

Add your forwarding rule:

iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp -d 10.0.0.132 --dport 29418 -j DNAT --to-destination 10.0.0.133: 29418

Ask IPtables to Masquerade:

iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -j MASQUERADE

And that's it! It worked for me in any case

I believe I must substitute my IP address in place of 10.0.0.132??? Also, what destination would I need to send to?(DNAT)

Don't get pissy. I'm NOT calling you out. I WILL, however, ask questions. If that bothers you, then don't reply or even peruse my posts. Do yourself that 'favor".
Thanx:
Rick
 
Old 04-22-2014, 08:04 PM   #5
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addendum to previous post:

SORRY!! Yes, John, I've been through the transmission forum (among many, many others)
 
Old 04-22-2014, 08:29 PM   #6
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first try renaming the hidden folder .transmission in your home folder to .transmission-backup
and restart transmission ( return all the settings to Ubuntu DEFAULT)

you are using Ubuntu
so see if the ubuntu 14.04 torrent works
http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04/ubu...64.iso.torrent
from
http://www.ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads

the default installed transmission from your package manager should be auto set up



now if you did not use your package manager to install transmission
then it would need to be set up
and if you have a router in the mix on a local lan that you use to connect to the outside world , then ports will need forwarding .
http://www.transmissionbt.com/help/g.../pfrouter.html

have a look
http://www.techsupportalert.com/cont...ient-speed.htm

also some isp's are interfering with the default tcp 6881 port
 
Old 04-22-2014, 10:46 PM   #7
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hey JohnVV:

Ok, let's go through this one thing at a time: #1. I've taken TBT (removed) off till tomorrow. Re-installing should re-set defaults(correct?) and I've done this before, wh #2. What will Ubuntu 14.04 torrent download accomplish? #3. I use all 'outside" lan (WiFi) connections. There is no WiFi in my building and ethernet is "packaged" w/ telephone/T.V., neither of which I have or use. So, I would say it's safe to say I need to forward ports.
#4. I read that some isp's are blocking 51413(default port w/TBT) as well as your saying with the tcp port.(?) Port forwarding will correct this? BTW, when I "port forward" which "ports" should I configure in? #5. Now, did you read post #4 concerning the "steps" taken to port forward? Do those seem like the proper commands? Really, in my opinion, this is turning out to be far more than it really should be. But, I need to get it 'fixed", so I'll have to bear through it. Oh, one last question: IF/when I get this problem fixed, should I then be able to download magnets? ThePirateBay has now moved into that realm and I'm sure others will soon follow, so it's imperative I'm able to "capture" magnets.
John, as always, I appreciate the help.
Rick

to ukiuki:

I removed TransBitTor (TBT)... must I still delete 'transmission" file prior to re-install?
THANX:
Rick
 
Old 04-23-2014, 12:02 AM   #8
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reinstalling will not reset it back to the default
renaming the hidden "dot" folder the config files are in will
and that is in your home folder

now i use the KDE desktop and the "transmission-QT" config folder in in .config/transmission
someplace in your home folder is that folder
if you are using Gnome 3 it might be in a different folder

Quote:
#2. What will Ubuntu 14.04 torrent download accomplish?
checking the program using a KNOWN good and very well seeded torrent
that iso should dl at about your max download speed ( you do not need to fully download it but it is a GOOD test )
and some ISP's are playing "wack-a-mole" with "the pirate bay " so it might be BLOCKED

in the gui ( i am using the QT version )
http://i.imgbox.com/eaSJJCqj.png
the "test port "button might say closed
but if the torrent IS downloading then the firewall is letting it through
( mine states it is CLOSED but is downloading at 1.79 Meg/sec.)
zeroconf is auto opining a port

Quote:
There is no WiFi in my building and ethernet is "packaged" w/ telephone/T.V., neither of which I have or use. So, I would say it's safe to say I need to forward ports.
so you have cable
that one phone / internet box from the cable company dose not count as a separate router
so
you should not need to forward ports from a router you do not have ( unless you are using Wifi but you said you are not )

the eth0 connection is fine

Quote:
Now, did you read post #4 concerning the "steps" taken to port forward? Do those seem like the proper commands?
only if you have a router in the mix

cable box --> router --> computer1 & computer2 & computer3
 
Old 04-23-2014, 11:46 AM   #9
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This is a redundant thread where the OP didn't get the answers that they wanted and now they're reposting it under a new thread.

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...se-4175501373/

69Rixter, IMHO you are trying to FORCE torrents to download at all costs merely because you have the impression that they should work based off of statistics offered by a search site.

Question 1: Have you grabbed torrents which work, and work fine? Try a couple of them. If this is so, then all this port manipulation you're trying is just grasping at straws. I see you trying, trying, trying here a ton and what I believe you're doing is jumping on something you believe will work, however in reality what it's all doing is either nothing because the torrent sources just aren't going to get you data any faster than they are now, or it's doing worse because you're playing with these settings and not knowing the true outcomes.

Playing with a certain IP protocol port does NOT guarantee you'll get better torrent transmission rates. Why? Because torrent uses the standard port for contacting peers and then it negotiates alternate ports for the data sessions.

As I've said before, go back to a default install. Test a few torrents and if you get some which download very fast, then the problem is not with some settings on your system, and it's not a problem; it's the randomness of availability of torrents from public peers.
 
Old 04-25-2014, 10:04 PM   #10
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Hey rtmis:

Wouldn't all of the posts since #2 been unsolicited had you made your latest statement at the beginning? Next, WHY is TBT indicating the ports are closed? You did NOT address this problem! Now, since re-installing TBT, I have had somewhat better dl/ul rates. That could be the torrents I choose OR possibly, the re-install corrected something that was deficient. Who knows? Same goes for magnets, I tried a few just for curiosity's sake and they are now "connecting". At this juncture, one would tend to believe there was a corruption in the original install and MAYBE it was corrected???? STILL, there is no indication of "open" listening port(s)!! BTW, what would make you think I could "force a torrent to work"? Can YOU? Really, I don't recall ever stating anything to that effect. So,then, why would someone propose I should 'port forward'? And YES, I'm under a new thread NOT because I didn't 'get the answers I wanted" but merely because I wasn't getting any HELPFUL answers and the thread deteriorated to a 'bitch zone". Let's be VERY careful NOT to allow this one to do the same!!! I DO want answers...answers to the specific questions I ask. You, until your last response, really did not answer any question, you merely kept reiterating what YOU do/did with software that was not exactly what I was dealing with. That's OK, but I did post specs and did ask direct questions that were ignored and it seems the same is happening again. I DO NOT need an "etiquette" coach. I do WANT, however, HELPFUL answers or directions. Now...would you like to address the issue of ports closed/port forwarding? Why/Why not? If you do not wish to answer, fine with me; I'm used to it!
Take care:
Rick
 
Old 04-25-2014, 10:18 PM   #11
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To JohnVV:

Tried torrent you mentioned (U14.04). Yes, loaded and worked well! I've re-installed TBT and have to say there seems to be an improvement. I'm getting better dl/ul rates and have been using magnets, whereas before, it was rare to get one to load. I'm still wondering about TBT indicating "closed" ports!! All along this is the issue I've been trying to get addressed.(please read post #10) I had another respond to say I need to port forward. Let's address these past 2 issues, PLEASE!!! This IS a problem!! Why are there no ports open...even after all you've said, why are ports closed?????? Why is there a suggestion to port forward? All I need are SIMPLE answers to these SIMPLE questions. And do not jump down my throat, the answers shouldn't be that critical. OK? Thank You!!
RICK
 
Old 04-25-2014, 10:29 PM   #12
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John: You misunderstood. I Do Not have any "net" connection at my place. I Do Not subscribe to cable/internet/telephone. I use WiFi at local "hotspots", library, and university.
Thanx:
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John: You misunderstood. I Do Not have any "net" connection at my place. I Do Not subscribe to cable/internet/telephone. I use WiFi at local "hotspots", library, and university.
Thanx:
Rick
To answer your questions about what ports to open and how to accomplish this, you first must understand that on your client you only ensure that the torrent application works well with a known good torrent and under circumstances where the available network is not blocking Peer to Peer (P2P) connections. Torrents initiate using ports 6881 through 6999; however negotiate the P2P connections within the range of open available port numbers above 10,000.

Since you're using public networks, you are subject to the policies of the administrators of those networks. They may block torrent initiation ports, as well as try to block P2P connections; further they may use QoS or other techniques to cap the bandwidth per endpoint so that you don't take all their bandwidth which they are allowing for free, but wish to be fair about how they allocate. Therefore when you see information related to opening ports, that is information about how to do that on your network, for instance if you have a home network; including a router and you need to configure that router.

If you have found public networks which do allow torrent traffic; I'm sure plenty do exist, some may limit the bandwidth per endpoint, some may not, or may do a poorer job at it. This may change over time if persons begin to use their networks and manage to take up too much bandwidth, resulting in the administrator investigating what types of traffic are being transited on their network and potential corrective actions on their part to allow for fairness.

So I believe it's really that simple.
  1. You get a torrent client, I feel the real differences with them will be interface; likely the actual network work performed by the torrent client is a library which all the torrent clients employ use of
  2. Another difference will be the capabilities of your computer; memory and CPU, and whether or not you have 802.11n versus 11a or 11b; and whether the network you attach too similarly allows these capabilities
  3. Next will be the level of availability of any given torrent
  4. Finally will be the network allowances by each public network which you use

If there are specific torrents which you feel should be available given all information and statistics you've seen, then post links to those torrents in a reply.

If you feel you are getting errors and wish to have members of the forum evaluate those errors, then post a copy of a log file or a screenshot of your torrent client reporting these errors.

It would be helpful to see some specific details about errors, or examples of torrents which you feel are not operating up to the par you expect.


And finally, what you can do is also to install nmap(1) and use the arguments -p 6881 (or whichever port number you feel is the problem) and either hostname or IP address. Examples:

Port 80 for HTTP is Open within the particular domain I am at now:

Code:
~/testcode$ nmap -p 80 192.168.1.1

Starting Nmap 5.00 ( http://nmap.org ) at 2014-04-28 08:10 EDT
Interesting ports on 192.168.1.1:
PORT   STATE SERVICE
80/tcp open  http

Nmap done: 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 0.07 seconds
Port 6881 for BITTORRENT is CLOSED because I'm at work and they don't allow that traffic:

Code:
~/testcode$ nmap -p 6881 192.168.1.1

Starting Nmap 5.00 ( http://nmap.org ) at 2014-04-28 08:10 EDT
Interesting ports on 192.168.1.1:
PORT     STATE  SERVICE
6881/tcp closed bittorrent-tracker

Nmap done: 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 0.07 seconds
To go further, say I pick an innocuous other location, I'm in the Northeast United States, so I pick M.I.T.:

I can freely HTTP to MIT:

Code:
~/testcode$ nmap -p 80 mit.edu

Starting Nmap 5.00 ( http://nmap.org ) at 2014-04-28 08:14 EDT
Interesting ports on a23-193-198-151.deploy.static.akamaitechnologies.com (23.193.198.151):
PORT   STATE SERVICE
80/tcp open  http

Nmap done: 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 0.14 seconds
Either MIT filters BITTORRENTS, which means that they likely will throttle the speed per endpoint, or this is a combination of the fact that I'm on a network which won't allow them, but MIT will; either case they're not available between where I am now and MIT.

Code:
~/testcode$ nmap -p 6881 mit.edu

Starting Nmap 5.00 ( http://nmap.org ) at 2014-04-28 08:14 EDT
Interesting ports on a23-193-198-151.deploy.static.akamaitechnologies.com (23.193.198.151):
PORT     STATE    SERVICE
6881/tcp filtered bittorrent-tracker

Nmap done: 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 0.28 seconds
So, use the ifconfig(8) utility to find out your address, and likely the router which you are attached too is address .1 of that network, or use ping(8) with the -R option or try traceroute(8) to determine what the router address is, and then use the nmap command to determine if you can even be successful getting torrent initialized from the particular network which you are signed on to.
 
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John: You misunderstood. I Do Not have any "net" connection at my place. I Do Not subscribe to cable/internet/telephone. I use WiFi at local "hotspots", library, and university.
Thanx:
Rick
Please post your thread in only one forum. Posting a single thread in the most relevant forum will make it easier for members to help you and will keep the discussion in one place. This thread is being closed because it is a duplicate of Transmission bittorrent use thread should be used to resolve this issue.

Now that I know you are not using a personal wifi/network then restriction(s) or allowance by the admin of the network in use will be dependent on their setup to prevent peer to peer or not.
 
  


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