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Old 07-21-2017, 02:51 AM   #16
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I don't know who it is who approves those, but you should contact Jeremy directly with the details.
 
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Torvalds probably has an opinion on systemd, but can't do much about it either way as his domain has always been the kernel and the kernel only. Plus he is employed by the Linux Foundation, which is in turn funded by the corporate world (including Red Hat), so he may have to exercise some restraint as there are likely a lot of politics involved.
And what a sad state of affairs this is. Unless you have *large* corporate backing, you get to just "shut up and sit down."

I'd recommend taking a look at the Linux Foundation web site, and just how much they are paying the kernel maintainer.

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Old 07-21-2017, 08:19 AM   #18
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I've not seen how much any of them are paid, that seems irrelevant to me.

AT&T, Cisco, Fujitsu, Hitachi, Huawei, IBM, Intel, Microsoft, NEC, Oracle, Qualcomm Technologies and Samsung are the current biggest financial backers of the Linux foundation.

The current board of directors is also rather telling:
https://www.linuxfoundation.org/about/board-members
Reps from AT&T, Cisco, Qualcomm, Facebook, IBM, Intel, Oracle, Samsung and Microsoft, to name but a few, make up the overwhelming majority of the 25 board members...

FreeBSD Foundation also got some big donations from similar names. The board of directors is very different however and does not consist of large numbers of corporate reps: https://www.freebsdfoundation.org/ab...-of-directors/
 
Old 07-21-2017, 11:02 AM   #19
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I've not seen how much any of them are paid, that seems irrelevant to me.
I understand. This is a subject a don't like talking about very much. I was just trying to point out that it might be very difficult to walk away from an amount which is astronomical to most people.

I have to say that I am not anti-corporate, nor do I feel any antipathy towards rich people. But I believe I have good reasons not to trust them, unless I am one of them.

I haven't followed kernel development closely, as it's mostly way over my head, but AFAIK Linus hasn't steered us into the slippery slope so far. I hope it stays that way for a good long while.

I've heard that Apple invests heavily in FreeBSD, and (correct me if I'm wrong) siphons off their code into their OS in turn. How about OpenBSD? Is it in a more independent state still?

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Old 07-21-2017, 02:15 PM   #20
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PS3, PS4, Nintendo Switch, and Netflix servers use BSD.. Apple's Darwin is BSD plus Mach.
 
Old 07-22-2017, 05:29 AM   #21
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PS3, PS4, Nintendo Switch, and Netflix servers use BSD.. Apple's Darwin is BSD plus Mach.
Thanks for the info.
 
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