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Old 08-12-2019, 03:39 PM   #1
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Systemd Assessment - 2019


This thread is intended to be a serious assessment and is essentially a clone of my first attempt to rise above all the flamey fuss and really examine both the Pros and the Cons now that we've had almost a decade with many distros adopting systemd. I really don't want to see just a rehash of ripping the scabs off perceived wounds. I want to see people's experiences on both sides of the assessment, a real Cost/Benefit analysis.

My first attempt was posted -- here -- but you don't need to view all that to participate as I will quote the essential part. I posted first in the Slackware sub-forum 1) because that's my main, 2) We don't use systemd except in testing other distros or if we are forced to at work, and 3) quite frankly I find Slackware devotees to be some of the deepest Linux knowledge folks around exactly because it expects us all to be Admins, but that all also implies we have less experience with how systemd has actually panned out in practice, instead of primarily philosophy.

OK here's the relevant part quoted here for an attempt at coherency.....

Originally Posted by Above Link
Today I watched a video of a fascinating 2019 symposium titled "The Tragedy of SystemD" and frankly it shook up some of my negative assumptions and I'd like to know more about where Linux, in general, may be headed, and what possible value there actually might be to get a more realistic assessment than I have apparently had so far.

Whatever your POV I think most will find this sober symposium interesting if not enlightening. I'd like to see comments on the video, the speaker and his points in his talk. I sincerely hope my title is appropriate since surely we are all adult enough to resist flame fests, right?

Anyway here it is ====>>>

Thanks in advance for any comments.
So please, let's keep this adult, civil and intelligent and above all this is a case where I want anecdotes. I want to know about actual experiences. I want to know what you think it has done for you and also what problems you have faced and how that has worked out... or not.

Please do take a few minutes and view the video. He makes some deep level observations on parallel vs/ serial init and I'd like to know more about that. You might as well.

Anyway jump in if you have something to offer.
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Old 08-12-2019, 04:38 PM   #3
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Systemd Assessment - 2019

In fairness, any point which had to be made was made in your first thread...

There will be nothing new here.
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