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Old 07-08-2007, 02:09 PM   #16
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Getting a prompt should be as simple as hitting Ctrl + alt + F1 or F2. And please don't equate Linux with Suse. Suse is one of the buggiest pieces around and it doesn't even begin to give an idea what Linux can be like. I'm not starting a rant here, just relating what I observed time and again until I gave up on Suse altogether, whether it was 32 or 64 bit.
 
Old 07-08-2007, 03:05 PM   #17
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Getting a prompt should be as simple as hitting Ctrl + alt + F1 or F2. And please don't equate Linux with Suse. Suse is one of the buggiest pieces around and it doesn't even begin to give an idea what Linux can be like. I'm not starting a rant here, just relating what I observed time and again until I gave up on Suse altogether, whether it was 32 or 64 bit.
ctrl+alt+f1 ... That's AFTER I'm IN the system, isn't it? It is no good if I can't boot the system or if the system has hanged. Do you people read the threads or do you isolate random phrases? Sorry, didn't mean to sound rude, I got a lot of problems to deal with and suse is a small fraction of them but it is that little "extra" that blew my fuses...

I don't equate linux with suse that's not how I meant that phrase. I meant that I doubted suse's behaviour in this case is representative of linux as a whole.

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Old 07-08-2007, 03:44 PM   #18
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Depends on what you mean by IN the system. Ctrl + alt + F1 or F2 should work as soon as the system starts booting. Alternatively, you can use the cds/dvd to launch a repair operation and continue from there.

And yes, btw, I tend to read only stretches of posts. Unless I get paid to do otherwise, of course.
 
Old 07-08-2007, 06:14 PM   #19
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Depends on what you mean by IN the system. Ctrl + alt + F1 or F2 should work as soon as the system starts booting.
Hmm... thanks for the tip!

I don't blame you for skimming through the threads... I do it too sometimes. But it can really give you a wrong sense of the situation.
 
Old 07-09-2007, 06:38 AM   #20
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I'm using the 64bit.

System:

Asus P5B p965 chipset
Intel E6600 Core2 Duo
crucial 2 gig PC5300
BFG 7800GT 256mb
SoundBlaster Audigy
Hauppauge PVR 350 Tv Tuner

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Old 07-09-2007, 11:16 AM   #21
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OK. And it's working for you or it's not?
 
Old 07-09-2007, 12:39 PM   #22
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UPDATE:

Kubuntu 7.04 32bit booted without much fuss, except that it was kind enough to ask me to disable apic in the boot options, which is consistent with suse's boot behaviour, except that suse didn't bother to produce any messages.

It looks simple and lightweight enough so I'm gonna install it after all. It has a newer kernel too. Or maybe I'll install the 64bit which I've also downloaded.

Anybody know the root password for kubuntu live so I can mount my hard drive and take a peek? Nah, don't bother, I'm formatting anyway





So you're using the 64bit suse, heh? I guess it conflicts somehow with my motherboard settings then. Maybe it's too complex a motherboard/bios with all those overclocking tweaking abilities...
And I see you use an older nvidia which is listed in the supported list for the latest linux driver. 8800 isn't in that list yet, so that explains why I couldn't use the driver successfully.

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Old 07-09-2007, 04:23 PM   #23
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UPDATE:

Kubuntu 7.04 32bit booted without much fuss, except that it was kind enough to ask me to disable apic in the boot options, which is consistent with suse's boot behaviour, except that suse didn't bother to produce any messages.

It looks simple and lightweight enough so I'm gonna install it after all. It has a newer kernel too. Or maybe I'll install the 64bit which I've also downloaded.

Anybody know the root password for kubuntu live so I can mount my hard drive and take a peek? Nah, don't bother, I'm formatting anyway





So you're using the 64bit suse, heh? I guess it conflicts somehow with my motherboard settings then. Maybe it's too complex a motherboard/bios with all those overclocking tweaking abilities...
And I see you use an older nvidia which is listed in the supported list for the latest linux driver. 8800 isn't in that list yet, so that explains why I couldn't use the driver successfully.
I think probably the 8800 might be the issue. On another note, if Kubunto Live is anything like the Gentoo Live boot up, there is no password, you just press enter. Its a Live version, why would they put a password on it? But I do know certain things won't work unless you actually install it on your drive. Also all these different distro's are still playing catchup on the newer hardware, so you just have to find a distro that will work with your hardware. I would be nice if the hardware manufacture's would get their head's out of their butt's and and support linux more. Glad to see you got something to work.

Edit: I was just looking at nvidia's site and if you look at the cards supported with their latest drivers, it does not list the 8800.

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Old 07-09-2007, 04:26 PM   #24
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OK. And it's working for you or it's not?
If your talking to me and my reply, yes it is working for me, finally after I figured out the issue. If not, well sorry I answered the wrong reply.
 
Old 07-10-2007, 01:55 AM   #25
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Edit: I was just looking at nvidia's site and if you look at the cards supported with their latest drivers, it does not list the 8800.
That's what I said. Can't complain much. Not even the latest windows are yet compatible with everything, how can I expect linux to be? Nvidia will make a proper driver eventually. They always do. Besides, I haven't installed the driver on the 'buntu yet. Maybe it can partially work...

Thanks everyone!
 
Old 07-10-2007, 03:20 PM   #26
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I seem to recall this sort of question being asked before. If I remember correctly, Nvidia is offerering a beta driver that does work for most - only it must be located where no-one ever looks because many appear to be struggling with this. In fact, if (K)Ubuntu knows how to handle the card, such a driver must actually be around; I don't think the Buntu folks get into hacking video drivers much.
 
Old 07-12-2007, 11:22 AM   #27
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Please Help Out: SUSE 10.2 Install Problems

Hi fellas...

I'm having some problems.

I have a SUSE 10.1 box which I wanted to format and install 10.2 (after doing back ups...)

But when I put in the first 10.2 CD, it boots into Linux OK, but reaches a stage where it says: "checking if image is initramfs...it isn't (bad gzip magic numbers); looks like an initrd".

Then it reboots and comes to this stage above... does the same thing and reboots...

If I use the 10.1 CD... there are no problems

If I use the 10.2 CD on another machine, it works like a charm...

Any pointers?
 
Old 07-20-2007, 04:49 AM   #28
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UPDATE: Solved the issue (MY issue) with suse 10.2. All of them actually...

The solution was simple: BIOS Update. Yep. I discovered the bios on the mobo dated back to the stone age... Suse runs like butter now. Much better than kubuntu in fact. No boot issues, no apm and acpi issues, no graphics issues (except for manually editing the xorg.config to point it to the nvidia driver). I'm happy!
 
Old 07-21-2007, 09:43 AM   #29
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UPDATE: Solved the issue (MY issue) with suse 10.2. All of them actually...

The solution was simple: BIOS Update. Yep. I discovered the bios on the mobo dated back to the stone age... Suse runs like butter now. Much better than kubuntu in fact. No boot issues, no apm and acpi issues, no graphics issues (except for manually editing the xorg.config to point it to the nvidia driver). I'm happy!

Glad to hear you figured it out. You know, I see alot of problems caused by the bios being out dated on motherboards. I see alot of customers and even computer businesses return motherboards, because they don't take the time to check the bios, and update it for compatibillity issues. I should have thought about that myself and suggested you checking it. Well glad to hear you fixed. Good for you.
 
  


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