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Old 10-28-2018, 10:48 AM   #1
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Question Snaps show as many file systems in MATE System Monitor.


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Why do snaps show up as mounted volumes in System Monitor? If I had a good few snaps -- would there be a long list of volumes here [image attached]? Also - why are there multiple voluems that seem to be much the same?

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Old 10-28-2018, 11:35 AM   #2
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How many snaps are you actually running in the above case?

From Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snappy_(package_manager); my highlighting):

The snap file format is a single compressed filesystem (based on squashfs format) that is mounted dynamically by the host operating system, together with declarative metadata that is interpreted by the snap system to set up an appropriately shaped secure sandbox or container for that application.
 
Old 10-29-2018, 02:37 AM   #3
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and there's another reason why snap is not the perfect solution for dependency problems.

i recently installed ubuntu and was appalled that its software center defaults to using the snap plugin!!!
quo vadis, ubuntu...

ah well, ZFG anyhow, if it weren't for an increase in newbie confusion about how linux actually works.
 
Old 10-29-2018, 04:57 AM   #4
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How many snaps are you actually running in the above case?

From Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snappy_(package_manager); my highlighting):

The snap file format is a single compressed filesystem (based on squashfs format) that is mounted dynamically by the host operating system, together with declarative metadata that is interpreted by the snap system to set up an appropriately shaped secure sandbox or container for that application.
Hi hydrurga. I only have 1 snap:

Code:
snap list~$ snap list
Code:
Name              Version    Rev   Tracking  Publisher     Notes
core              16-2.35.4  5662  stable    canonical✓    core
tmnationsforever  2.11.26    27    edge      snapcrafters  -
 
Old 10-29-2018, 05:23 AM   #5
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and there's another reason why snap is not the perfect solution for dependency problems.

i recently installed ubuntu and was appalled that its software center defaults to using the snap plugin!!!
quo vadis, ubuntu...

ah well, ZFG anyhow, if it weren't for an increase in newbie confusion about how linux actually works.
This is one of the things that concerns me too about these new package methods - the lack of clarity. Mint's Software Manager is currently inextricable from Flatpak and you can't tell from the main screen which of the Editors' Picks are Flatpaks or not. There are also other packages in there that are only offered as Flatpaks but I know are available in the Ubuntu repos.

I've already experienced it on here that someone had a problem with a package, I went through all the usual diagnostics, and it turned out that the package was a Snap/AppImage/Flatpak package and the user had no idea - the fact that it was so actually changed the potential solutions.

And all that before we even talk about resource usage. As you can see, I'm not a fan.
 
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Hi hydrurga. I only have 1 snap:

Code:
snap list~$ snap list
Code:
Name              Version    Rev   Tracking  Publisher     Notes
core              16-2.35.4  5662  stable    canonical✓    core
tmnationsforever  2.11.26    27    edge      snapcrafters  -
Ah. In that case I don't know why you have multiple filesystems on there, unless the package creates multiple instances for various modules, like browsers sometimes do. You could check your processes to see if that is the case.
 
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Ah. In that case I don't know why you have multiple filesystems on there, unless the package creates multiple instances for various modules, like browsers sometimes do. You could check your processes to see if that is the case.
I see 2 entries of 'winedevice.exe' in the MATE System Monitor Processes tab but other than that nothing stands out.
 
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Can someone post an image like the one I did in post #1 if they use snaps? I'd like to see a comparison. Thanks.
 
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Hi.

Why do snaps show up as mounted volumes in System Monitor? If I had a good few snaps -- would there be a long list of volumes here [image attached]? Also - why are there multiple voluems that seem to be much the same?

Thanks.
I remember a similar look on my Ubuntu install. I think that's just an artifact of how snaps work. That's all I got; I don't currently have anything running Ubuntu.
 
Old 11-24-2018, 09:13 AM   #10
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I've got the same snap installed on my other computer (a laptop). Here's [image attached] what that System Monitor looks like (3 items vs 6 on my main PC). Both computers are running Debian 9 Stretch.
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