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Old 04-08-2011, 09:30 AM   #1
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Sid vs Aptosid


I like current software, and after reading this I decided to give "unstable" a go. Only thing is, I'm not sure which of the two should I choose, and why.

I understand a degree of tinkering is necessary when running experimental software, but I'd still like to get the distro that'll give me less headaches.

Your opinion?

Thanks.
 
Old 04-08-2011, 11:50 AM   #2
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I use Aptosid on my laptop.

One benefit (maybe the main benefit) is a clean installation of Sid from CD/USB. With straight Debian you are left with an upgrade to Sid from, perhaps, an installation of one of the testing/daily/weekly ISO's

The Aptosid/slh kernel is often newer/more current than Sid.
 
Old 04-08-2011, 02:27 PM   #3
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I use Sid/Experimental which is more than Sid but still in Debian. I've never had an issue that I couldn't fix easily.

I've heard good things about aptosid but I think why go to a fork when the real thing is working for me.
 
Old 04-09-2011, 05:06 AM   #4
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With straight Debian you are left with an upgrade to Sid from, perhaps, an installation of one of the testing/daily/weekly ISO's
Download the Debian business card iso,start the install in expert mode.You will be asked during the install which branch of Debian you want to use.
No need to upgrade from Stable or Testing.

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The Aptosid/slh kernel is often newer/more current than Sid.
That's one reason many Debian users use the Liquorix kernel:

http://liquorix.net/

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I think why go to a fork when the real thing is working for me
Absolutely.Couldn't agree more.

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Old 04-09-2011, 01:06 PM   #5
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Excuse the potentially silly question, but... why NOT go for a fork? What's inherently bad about that?
 
Old 04-09-2011, 02:52 PM   #6
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Excuse the potentially silly question, but... why NOT go for a fork? What's inherently bad about that?
In some cases it adds an extra layer of potential problems. e.g. Regardless of Mint fanboy talk Mint is no more stable than Ubuntu because Ubuntu's instability is in its inner workings while Mint adds/modifies superficial and visual aspects. Don't get me wrong Mint has some very nice tools (their menu is a work of art) but they don't do anything for stability. Same thing goes for LMDE (Linux Mint Debian Edition) all they have done here is add regular mint appearance and tools to Debian Testing. You cannot easily update a kernel (this can be a good thing sometimes but is mostly a bad idea) unless you know how to change Mint's defaults (to be fair it's not hard to learn but why should you have to).

Another thing is also that the Linux community is whining now about forks not sharing their development upstream. They start with someone else doing 99% of the hard work and then when they actually do add something useful they don't give back to those who started everything. I don't know how true this is but the whining has become more prominent in the last couple of years.

Last, for now, but not least, forks often have a much smaller developer base. In cases like Mint where they decide what updates are allowed through based on a number/priority system the updates need to be checked to see where they fit in the number/priority system. If Debian or Ubuntu are pushing an update through you get it on the day they push it through. Mint on the other hand doesn't push it through automatically, instead it has to go through the number/priority system and this can take days. I know this because I have used all 3 systems at the same time on my laptop. It is the reason I made the decision to move permanently to Debian.
 
Old 04-09-2011, 05:44 PM   #7
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I have pure Debian installed, did it the hard way. Installed stable, upgraded to testing, upgraded to sid.

I do have aptosid in my sources.list they do tend to have quicker bug fixes, the recent udev snafu for example.

At the present time I have 6 or 7 packages from the aptosid repos, the aptosid manual (2 packages), the archive keys (2 or 3 packages), 3 udev, libudev0, libgudev-1.0-0 related packages.

Being able to install sid in 5 minutes is the one nice feature of sidux/aptosid.
 
  


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