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Old 07-16-2001, 08:20 AM   #16
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Damn...ya'll keep bashin' him like that he/she will never realize or try to get the help he/she needs from this forum. Just cuz he hates linux dosen't mean ya'll gotta jump down his throat..show him the way to the light. Thats what I hate about this forum ya'll can get quite rude to people just becuase ya'll don't like the negative expressions to any linux distribution....question: Are ya'll here to help or degrade the original post?
 
Old 07-16-2001, 08:41 AM   #17
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Nobody is bashing him.

The only responses to his post have either been ones of disbelief, or ones telling him to keep trying. Personally, if this is authentic post, I think he should stay where he is most comfortable(with Windows).

If he isn't the kind of person that enjoys learning this stuff, then his frustration will only grow. he will then start bashing Linux on a regular basis and anyone that he comes into contact with will hear nothing but negatives about Linux from him. That won't be good for Linux or anyone else.

Don't push Linux on everyone. Its best when its a discovered treasure, not a forced concept.

KevinJ
 
Old 07-16-2001, 09:36 AM   #18
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I agree with KevinJ... with a response of
" I don't know Unix, but do know DOS "

That is a sign of someone not willing to learn and should stick with Windows. And if he really needed help and was trying it out... why start out and register with a site to start a post of "I give up. "

Everything is like riding a bike, if you don't give up, eventually your gonna learn. But when people have negative attitudes and are sorry sports, then they never learn.

I can say I have my share with problems encountered, but I only ended up learning so much more after I kept trying, once that task was complete, I don't have to worry about it anymore since I know how to come about it.

So for anyone disgusted with Linux, don't post your opinions at a forum where people are trying to get help. That is in no way of helping them with their problems. I am sure there are other message boards out there made for opinions of that type.
 
Old 07-16-2001, 10:05 AM   #19
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I propose a "Linux Bashing" forum so that we mods can just move the posts into there where they can be properly ignored.
 
Old 07-16-2001, 10:22 AM   #20
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we've got one one ...

Technically, anything like this should be thrown into the General category. If a Linux - Bashing forum were to open up, I'm sure people would have a field day for about two weeks, then it'd get real quiet. Generally, no one wants to display their displeasure for something difficult in the presence of uber-gurus *cough trickykid, kevinj*. And no, I'm not sucking up, not at all, why would you think that?

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Old 07-16-2001, 10:38 AM   #21
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Quote:
Originally posted by trusouthrnplaya
Damn...ya'll keep bashin' him like that he/she will never realize or try to get the help he/she needs from this forum. Just cuz he hates linux dosen't mean ya'll gotta jump down his throat..show him the way to the light. Thats what I hate about this forum ya'll can get quite rude to people just becuase ya'll don't like the negative expressions to any linux distribution....question: Are ya'll here to help or degrade the original post?
This wasn't supposed to be bash against anyone for not liking a prticular distribution. This is someone who has not asked a single question or provided a single answer. If he doesn't understand linux and doesn't ask any questions then he is on his own. He should go back to windows.

Help those who help themselves....

I know windows too, real well in fact. I used to teach it to prison guards and government employees. But I have to admit, that I didn't really know computers until I started using linux.

I was a die-hard windows person for a long time but got real tired of having to pay for everything. I switched to linux and had a real hard time with it. I spent many hours with what I thought were dumb questions. I read lots of books that didn't make any sense and was just about to give up until I came accross 'Linux for Dummies' by John maddog Hall'. I would suggest this book to anyone who is having trouble getting started.

Linux was developed by the world rather than one company. I asked myself who would make a better OS, one company or the entire world.
 
Old 07-16-2001, 11:30 AM   #22
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I had to read DMRs post twice to get the drift. Guess he thinks fade2black06 is a crybaby. Having been where fade2black06 is and still struggling a bit, I would prefer to help him learn how to deal with Linux.
I'm not a guru, but got lots of help from Trickykid and others. If I can help more, ask some specific questions. The guys on this forum can and will help.
 
Old 07-16-2001, 01:38 PM   #23
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Originally posted by rdaves@earthlink.net
I had to read DMRs post twice to get the drift. Guess he thinks fade2black06 is a crybaby. Having been where fade2black06 is and still struggling a bit, I would prefer to help him learn how to deal with Linux.
I'm not a guru, but got lots of help from Trickykid and others. If I can help more, ask some specific questions. The guys on this forum can and will help.
No DMR doesn't think this person is a crybaby. What he thinks, and quite likely he may be correct, is that the person who left the message only left it here to provoke angry responses from people. In the internet world, this type of behavior has become known as trolling, and those people who leave these type of messages are known as trolls.

Often Trolls enter a forum devoted to a particular topic or technology and leave messages filled with inflammatory statements about the topic or technology, which then provoke numerous angry responses. The motivation of these individuals is often just to see how much they can stir people up, and they often have no interest in the actual merits of what they stated, or of any of the responses, no matter how reasoned they may be.

In this case, u might notice that the originator of the thread hasn't posted any follow ups to his original. DMR's point is that this person may be having a good laugh seeing all the people who have tried to respond to what was obviously a vague and somewhat pompous post. Some of the things that suggest this is someone goofing, for example is the statement: "I'm a genious at...."

Additionally, note this line at the bottom of the post:

Last edited by trickykid on 07-16-2001 at 02:00 PM
 
Old 07-16-2001, 01:46 PM   #24
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ok maybe it's not bashing; but it is still alot of negative comments up above. I'm with cinnix..I thought I was the man in computers...being in the AirForce I have taught many of folks on networking,windows, etc....I was tired of the same ole' windoze so I switched to linux. Even though I am a newbie I feel using linux is turning me in to a better programmer and computer user, plus I like the challenge that Linux gives me. There has been many of nights where I've been up till 4 or 5 in the morning just tryin' to trouble shoot a linux program; but behold the power of linux if u stay persistant.
 
Old 07-16-2001, 02:32 PM   #25
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My advice to fade2black06 is to get Mandrake. It is easy, and you can do powerful stuff with it.

*****Colonel Panic*****

"Good programmers know what to write. Excellent programmers know what to rewrite"
--Eric S. Raymond
 
Old 07-16-2001, 02:36 PM   #26
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This is crazy. Either I made a mistake, or the forum did because the post is in the wrong thread. Please ignore the post, and do not flame me for it Sorry about that!

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Old 07-16-2001, 02:39 PM   #27
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Oh, wait. Sorry, the post was just in the next page. Im just confused...

Please ignore the previous post, and, erm, sorry about that!

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Old 07-16-2001, 03:01 PM   #28
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Originally posted by gizmola
Some of the things that suggest this is someone goofing, for example is the statement: "I'm a genious at...."

Additionally, note this line at the bottom of the post:

Last edited by trickykid on 07-16-2001 at 02:00 PM
The only thing I did was add ** to a bad, horrible word that little kiddies might see.

I am also going to go ahead and close this thread. I feel it is not necessary to post any more replies to it.

fade2black06

You can create a new thread if you need any questions regarding Linux and any trouble you may have. Lets keep the bash topics out of here, they only cause a disruption in the forums.

Last edited by trickykid; 07-16-2001 at 03:07 PM.
 
  


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