I'am running Fedora 2 with the latest kernel update installed ( 2.6.6-1.435 ). Then when I plug in a Ipod mini (usb2) there is created a folder /mnt/ipod and an icon in "computer:///" (nautilus), but when i'm trying to mount the device, then that is not posible. If I try manualy to mount the device as root with eg. : "mount -t vfat /dev/sda2 /ipod" or "mount -t auto /dev/sad2 /ipod" I get the following message :
"mount: /dev/sda2: can't read superblock". I'm not able to open or list /dev/sda with fdisk either. I'm pretty sure that the ipod mini is formated with vfat/fat32 (I can use it in windows) and that the partision i'm looking for is /dev/sda2. Here is the good(or bad part) part I have this Linspire Live EVAL cd. where you can boot up and run Linspire without installing it, and here everything work fine. I belive that is running Kernel 2.4.?. In Fedora 2 I'm able to use any other usb devices that I have tried. eg. a flash drive.

Is this some kernel error in the new kernel or am I missing something.
I'am using the usb cable for the ipod mini, not the firewire. - have not tried that(the plugs don't fit).

Is it posible that the Ipod mini is using some firewire protocol ower usb2 and there isn't firewire suport in the Fedora 2 kernel ?

Please help I realy want this to work and I realy like The Fedora 2.

Try running ls -l /dev/sd* to see if it shows any partitions (you should get something if the kernel can see the partitions). When my friend tried hooking up his ipod (not a mini) to my computer, I know I had to modprobe a couple of extra modules in order to see any partitions. You mention that it works with the Linspire Live EVAL cd. Boot up with that and plug in the ipod. Then run lsmod and jot down all the modules it lists. Reboot and do the same with Fedora. If any modules are missing, modprobe them and then run ls -l /dev/sd* to see the partitions show up.

--mascdman

that ls -l /dev/sd* or ls -l /dev/sda dosn't come up with anything.
I made in lindows with lsmod, and then tried modprob almost every module in Fedora but with no luck. some modules were not perssent. I don't know if there are in the kernel or if i need them. Does anyone knows what "slamr" and "coop" is and if they might have any importance.

No mather what i just get :
/dev/sda2: Input/output error
mount: /dev/sda2: can't read superblock
when trying to mount the ipod mini.

Any other ideas ?

Anyone interested in seeing the lsmod output ?

Thanks for the sugestion.

Yeah, post the lsmod as well as the output of cat /proc/bus/usb/devices. It looks like slamr is a module for SmartLink modems, but I'm not sure what the coop module does...

--mascdman

Here is the lsmod output on Lindows 4.5 live eval, where the ipod mini works :
Module Size Used by Tainted: PF
msr 1128 0 (unused)
nls_iso8859-1 2844 0 (autoclean)
nls_cp437 4348 0 (autoclean)
fglrx 167272 151 (autoclean)
ipt_LOG 3768 1 (autoclean)
ipt_limit 1144 4 (autoclean)
ipt_state 728 1 (autoclean)
ip_conntrack_ftp 4176 0 (unused)
ip_conntrack 21640 2 [ipt_state ip_conntrack_ftp]
iptable_filter 1828 1 (autoclean)
ip_tables 11704 4 [ipt_LOG ipt_limit ipt_state iptable_filter]
slamr 247012 2
parport_pc 25224 1 (autoclean)
lp 6400 0 (autoclean)
thermal 6528 0 (unused)
processor 8760 0 [thermal]
fan 1568 0 (unused)
button 2508 0 (unused)
battery 5888 0 (unused)
asus_acpi 8444 0
ac 1792 0 (unused)
af_packet 13480 1 (autoclean)
usbmouse 1820 0 (unused)
ds 6664 2
yenta_socket 9792 2
pcmcia_core 38464 0 [ds yenta_socket]
ide-floppy 12252 0 (autoclean)
serial 42532 0 (autoclean)
isa-pnp 28708 0 (autoclean) [serial]
sbp2 16972 0 (unused)
ohci1394 23304 0 (unused)
ieee1394 43684 0 [sbp2 ohci1394]
snd-intel8x0 17608 1
snd-pcm-oss 35972 0 (unused)
snd-pcm 55264 0 [snd-intel8x0 snd-pcm-oss]
snd-timer 13476 0 [snd-pcm]
snd-ac97-codec 35352 0 [snd-intel8x0]
snd-page-alloc 5360 0 [snd-intel8x0 snd-pcm]
gameport 1676 0 [snd-intel8x0]
snd-mpu401-uart 3120 0 [snd-intel8x0]
snd-rawmidi 12096 0 [snd-mpu401-uart]
snd-seq-device 3668 0 [snd-rawmidi]
snd-mixer-oss 10992 1 [snd-pcm-oss]
snd 30276 0 [snd-intel8x0 snd-pcm-oss snd-pcm snd-timer snd-ac97-codec snd-mpu401-uart snd-rawmidi snd-seq-device snd-mixer-oss]
soundcore 3812 4 [snd]
piix 8224 1
ndiswrapper 50824 0
b44 13864 1
parport 23616 1 [parport_pc lp]
agpgart 42020 0 (unused)
keybdev 1696 0 (unused)
mousedev 3896 1
hid 20260 0 (unused)
input 3392 0 [usbmouse keybdev mousedev hid]
autofs4 8532 0 (unused)
rtc 6652 0 (autoclean)
vfat 9356 0
fat 30904 0 [vfat]
ext3 61892 0 (unused)
jbd 39496 0 [ext3]
reiserfs 173936 0 (unused)
cloop 8196 2
ehci-hcd 15976 0 (unused)
usb-storage 64608 0
usb-uhci 22188 0 (unused)
usbcore 58912 1 [usbmouse hid ehci-hcd usb-storage usb-uhci]
sr_mod 14576 2
ide-scsi 9328 1
loop 8952 0 (unused)
sd_mod 10444 0
cdrom 27456 0 [sr_mod]
scsi_mod 59948 4 [sbp2 usb-storage sr_mod ide-scsi sd_mod]

I will just get the output of : cat /proc/bus/usb/devices
have to reebot in the Lindows Live CD. It once deleted every thing on my linux partision :-0. So now I remove the hardisk. ( Lindows?=Windows ).

the out put of cat /proc/bus/usb/devices :

T: Bus=04 Lev=00 Prnt=00 Port=00 Cnt=00 Dev#= 1 Spd=480 MxCh= 6
B: Alloc= 0/800 us ( 0%), #Int= 0, #Iso= 0
D: Ver= 2.00 Cls=09(hub ) Sub=00 Prot=01 MxPS= 8 #Cfgs= 1
P: Vendor=0000 ProdID=0000 Rev= 2.04
S: Manufacturer=Linux 2.4.24 ehci_hcd
S: Product=PCI device 8086:24cd
S: SerialNumber=00:1d.7
C:* #Ifs= 1 Cfg#= 1 Atr=40 MxPwr= 0mA
I: If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 1 Cls=09(hub ) Sub=00 Prot=00 Driver=hub
E: Ad=81(I) Atr=03(Int.) MxPS= 2 Ivl=256ms
T: Bus=04 Lev=01 Prnt=01 Port=01 Cnt=01 Dev#= 2 Spd=480 MxCh= 0
D: Ver= 2.00 Cls=00(>ifc ) Sub=00 Prot=00 MxPS=64 #Cfgs= 1
P: Vendor=05ac ProdID=1202 Rev= 0.01
S: Manufacturer=Apple
S: Product=iPod mini
S: SerialNumber=00000076764C
C:* #Ifs= 1 Cfg#= 1 Atr=c0 MxPwr=500mA
I: If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 2 Cls=08(stor.) Sub=06 Prot=50 Driver=usb-storage
E: Ad=82(I) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS= 512 Ivl=0ms
E: Ad=01(O) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS= 512 Ivl=0ms
T: Bus=03 Lev=00 Prnt=00 Port=00 Cnt=00 Dev#= 1 Spd=12 MxCh= 2
B: Alloc= 0/900 us ( 0%), #Int= 0, #Iso= 0
D: Ver= 1.00 Cls=09(hub ) Sub=00 Prot=00 MxPS= 8 #Cfgs= 1
P: Vendor=0000 ProdID=0000 Rev= 0.00
S: Product=USB UHCI Root Hub
S: SerialNumber=1840
C:* #Ifs= 1 Cfg#= 1 Atr=40 MxPwr= 0mA
I: If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 1 Cls=09(hub ) Sub=00 Prot=00 Driver=hub
E: Ad=81(I) Atr=03(Int.) MxPS= 8 Ivl=255ms
T: Bus=02 Lev=00 Prnt=00 Port=00 Cnt=00 Dev#= 1 Spd=12 MxCh= 2
B: Alloc= 0/900 us ( 0%), #Int= 0, #Iso= 0
D: Ver= 1.00 Cls=09(hub ) Sub=00 Prot=00 MxPS= 8 #Cfgs= 1
P: Vendor=0000 ProdID=0000 Rev= 0.00
S: Product=USB UHCI Root Hub
S: SerialNumber=1820
C:* #Ifs= 1 Cfg#= 1 Atr=40 MxPwr= 0mA
I: If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 1 Cls=09(hub ) Sub=00 Prot=00 Driver=hub
E: Ad=81(I) Atr=03(Int.) MxPS= 8 Ivl=255ms
T: Bus=01 Lev=00 Prnt=00 Port=00 Cnt=00 Dev#= 1 Spd=12 MxCh= 2
B: Alloc= 0/900 us ( 0%), #Int= 0, #Iso= 0
D: Ver= 1.00 Cls=09(hub ) Sub=00 Prot=00 MxPS= 8 #Cfgs= 1
P: Vendor=0000 ProdID=0000 Rev= 0.00
S: Product=USB UHCI Root Hub
S: SerialNumber=1800
C:* #Ifs= 1 Cfg#= 1 Atr=40 MxPwr= 0mA
I: If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 1 Cls=09(hub ) Sub=00 Prot=00 Driver=hub
E: Ad=81(I) Atr=03(Int.) MxPS= 8 Ivl=255ms

When the Ipod is plugged in and not working in fedora here is what the device pescription is :

T: Bus=01 Lev=01 Prnt=01 Port=01 Cnt=01 Dev#= 4 Spd=480 MxCh= 0
D: Ver= 2.00 Cls=00(>ifc ) Sub=00 Prot=00 MxPS=64 #Cfgs= 1
P: Vendor=05ac ProdID=1202 Rev= 0.01
S: Manufacturer=Apple
S: Product=iPod mini
S: SerialNumber=00000076764C
C:* #Ifs= 1 Cfg#= 1 Atr=c0 MxPwr=500mA
I: If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 2 Cls=08(stor.) Sub=06 Prot=50 Driver=usb-storage
E: Ad=82(I) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS= 512 Ivl=0ms
E: Ad=01(O) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS= 512 Ivl=0ms

i guess that shuld be compared to the description on Lindows :

T: Bus=04 Lev=01 Prnt=01 Port=01 Cnt=01 Dev#= 2 Spd=480 MxCh= 0
D: Ver= 2.00 Cls=00(>ifc ) Sub=00 Prot=00 MxPS=64 #Cfgs= 1
P: Vendor=05ac ProdID=1202 Rev= 0.01
S: Manufacturer=Apple
S: Product=iPod mini
S: SerialNumber=00000076764C
C:* #Ifs= 1 Cfg#= 1 Atr=c0 MxPwr=500mA
I: If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 2 Cls=08(stor.) Sub=06 Prot=50 Driver=usb-storage
E: Ad=82(I) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS= 512 Ivl=0ms
E: Ad=01(O) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS= 512 Ivl=0ms

I don't see any diffrence there. Is there any thing that would bee intresting ?

Okay, so they both see the mini on the USB bus. That's good
Those modules are listed in your output. Are they all listed in the lsmod output on Fedora?

--mascdman

the usbcore & ide-scsi is missing. Is it not likey that the usb-core is in the kernel ? I can't seam to find it anywwhere for download.

I don't think it's compiled into the kernel by default. It should be in /lib/modules/your_kernel_version/kernel/drivers/usb/core. Just run modprobe usbcore to load it. You probably don't need the ide-scsi module (but you could modprobe it, too, just in case). If all those modules are included in the kernel, I'm not too sure why the /dev/sd* links aren't showing up.

--mascdman

There isn't any usbcore or ide-scsi. I can not modprobe them or find the /lib/modules/2.6.6-1.435/kernel/drivers/usb/core.
Where can i get this usbcore ? I can't seam to find it anywhere.

Hi There,
The ide-scsi.ko or o file is keeped in /lib/modules/"kernel version"/drivers/scsi and that were it is but if you type modprobe ide-scsi and then it should load this in to memory and the command to check it is lsmod

I hope this helps you out mate if not

email me the error code at lcameron@pcfe.ac.uk

Luke.

Fedora Core 2 Rocks

You can run
That should display where the file is, but you should be able to run modprobe usbcore from anywhere. Does anyone know if usbcore is compiled into the kernel rather than as a module?

--mascdman

I can't find the usbcore anywhere. I made a new kernel 2.6.7 with every usb & scsi thing enabled er as a mod. and it still wont work. It may be some kernel patch this usbcore. Anyway now I have returned the IPod. Trere were several things that annoyed me about it:
1) I don't like the idea that I have to use a program in order to transfer music to it (iTunes or other).
2) Then I didn't find iTunes to be were corporationel with other programs. Like I have a mp3 collection and i use one program for playing the songs, one program to manage the id-tags, and so on. and it all works great, but now because I have bought a (Walkman) I fell that i have to use that iTunes to do every thing. Fx. if I changed the id-tags with another program it was very difficult to get it all synced again - iTunes + Ipod.
3) I wasn't even able to by music online because I don't have an American, German of French credit card.
4) It didn't work in Linux.
5) If it worked in Linux then the programs to sync it with didn't look all that great.
6) It could not play music while plugged in to the usb. - know that the normal IPod can.
7) if(6) then It would have nice, if you could control it from the computer thou the usb.
8) I found it a bit difficult to control the IPod mini with one hand.

I do must say that it is very pretty. :-)

I'm now looking at the Rio Karma player.

bump!