/me goes back and follows thread more carefully, ah a "don't make assumptions example"

Here's a shot of my desktop.

http://hanzerik.dyndns.org/~hanzerik/screenshot.jpg

http://hanzerik.dyndns.org/~hanzerik/clean.jpg

Well, KDE was my first Window manager in any *nix system I've ever tried, so I can't say I've really known much about CDE. I've used both KDE, GNOME and Window Maker for a while. KDE I found, was slow at times, and it's utilities usually crashed as much as windows programs, though I still use the utils at times. GNOME I found, was overall better in performance and Utilties as KDE, but it wasn't as pretty or easy. When I found XFCE, I gave it a try and found it was simple, very simple. I make shortcuts in different menus and if I ever want my KDE or GNOME Menus, I simply left-click on the desktop to load my KDE and GNOME menus. It was also faster and is lower on resources. Not only that, but it provided something very similar to Window Maker which I liked, and that was how the icons are minimized and program support.

I'm sure this could be done with Blackbox, but I found the XFCE toolbar to be very easy and configurable.

Just my opinion, that's the great thing about Linux, everyone has a choice in Window Managers, no one has to have the same one, and have them just as unique as the person they are.

there seem to be quite a few people on this forum that use gnome and/or kde. so i got a question for you guys... why?

i never saw the appeal or kde or gnome, unless you actually like a windows style interface. so what are the advantages of gnome/kde? besides being the default wm.

i'm just curious...

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Warning, may cause damage to dial-up modems Dual Head 3200x1200 - Matrox G450

Gnome - Win4Lin - Win95

hmm protel. have you tried Eagle? depends what you want it for, but it works great for what i want. auto pcb arrangement etc..

No, been a Protel man for like 13 years, ever since DOS...

how do you guys get the monitoring utils in windowmaker?

i can't remember exactly where i got all mine... just misc sites on the inet. however, i can give you their names and then you can google them if you want:

listed in order as they appear in this screenshot:
http://www.brokenglass.net/s.shots/nellie1.jpg

wmitime (displays time)
wmfire (monitors cpu usage)
wmmon (monitors different system usage - current is ram/swap)
wmnd (monitors your nic bandwidth)
wmnd (same as above, but with wireless card)
wmfmixer (change your mixer settings)
wmusic (dockable xmms control - wmxmms works too)
wmapm (monitors battery life)

hope this helps. :-)

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