Need some help on updates

krock923 · 01-22-2005, 12:39 PM

Hi, I installed RedHat 9 about 6 months ago and I'm now starting to realize how many packages that came with it are now obsolete. Things like xmms and other standalone applications are easy enough to update, but how about things like gnome, and nautilus? What about updating X? I don't really understand how to do things like that. Hopefully, it wouldn't require a recomplie or anything. Also, when I look at the gnome system monitor, I see lots of programs, some of which I probably do not need. If this were windows, I'd know exactly which ones I could safely disable (I spend a lot of time analyzing HijackThis logs for windows users and I still have a windows box here). But, I don't have the slighteset idea on what I need and what I don't when it comes to linux. I know theres a command that will list all of the running processes so if someone can tell me what it is, can i post the list here and someone tell me what I need? Things are a little slow so I hope this will help speed things up. Thanks in advance.

david_ross · 01-22-2005, 12:52 PM

There are several tools to keep your system updated the default redhat one is up2date. The biggest problem you have is that redhat 9 is out of date and not really supported any more.

You can list your proceses with:
ps -ef

krock923 · 01-22-2005, 01:27 PM

This is the output from ps -ef

Code:

UID        PID  PPID  C STIME TTY          TIME CMD
root         1     0  0  2004 ?        00:00:05 init
root         2     1  0  2004 ?        00:00:04 [keventd]
root         3     1  0  2004 ?        00:00:06 [kapmd]
root         4     1  0  2004 ?        00:00:00 [ksoftirqd_CPU0]
root         9     1  0  2004 ?        00:00:00 [bdflush]
root         5     1  0  2004 ?        00:05:27 [kswapd]
root         6     1  0  2004 ?        00:00:02 [kscand/DMA]
root         7     1  0  2004 ?        00:41:48 [kscand/Normal]
root         8     1  0  2004 ?        00:00:00 [kscand/HighMem]
root        10     1  0  2004 ?        00:00:00 [kupdated]
root        11     1  0  2004 ?        00:00:00 [mdrecoveryd]
root        15     1  0  2004 ?        00:00:35 [kjournald]
root        73     1  0  2004 ?        00:00:00 [khubd]
root      2796     1  0  2004 ?        00:00:00 [kjournald]
root      3097     1  0  2004 ?        00:00:00 syslogd -m 0
root      3101     1  0  2004 ?        00:00:00 klogd -x
rpc       3119     1  0  2004 ?        00:00:00 [portmap]
rpcuser   3138     1  0  2004 ?        00:00:00 [rpc.statd]
root      3178     1  0  2004 ?        00:00:00 /usr/sbin/sshd
root      3193     1  0  2004 ?        00:00:00 xinetd -stayalive -reuse -pidfilroot      3202     1  0  2004 ?        00:00:51 gpm -t ps/2 -m /dev/input/mice
root      3213     1  0  2004 ?        00:00:58 cupsd
xfs       3273     1  0  2004 ?        00:00:32 [xfs]
root      3282     1  0  2004 ?        00:00:00 smbd -D
root      3286     1  0  2004 ?        00:00:18 nmbd -D
root      3292     1  0  2004 tty1     00:00:00 /sbin/mingetty tty1
root      3293     1  0  2004 tty2     00:00:00 /sbin/mingetty tty2
root      3294     1  0  2004 tty3     00:00:00 /sbin/mingetty tty3
root      3295     1  0  2004 tty4     00:00:00 /sbin/mingetty tty4
root      3296     1  0  2004 tty5     00:00:00 /sbin/mingetty tty5
root      3297     1  0  2004 tty6     00:00:00 /sbin/mingetty tty6
root      3298     1  0  2004 ?        00:00:00 [gdm-binary]
root      3341  3298  0  2004 ?        00:00:00 [gdm-binary]
root      3342  3341  3  2004 ?        1-10:53:52 /usr/X11R6/bin/X :0 -auth /varmatt      3354  3341  0  2004 ?        00:00:53 gnome-session
matt      3397  3354  0  2004 ?        00:00:00 /usr/bin/ssh-agent /home/matt/.Xmatt      3400     1  0  2004 ?        00:00:12 /usr/libexec/gconfd-2 11
matt      3402     1  0  2004 ?        00:00:01 /usr/libexec/bonobo-activation-smatt      3404     1  0  2004 ?        00:01:21 gnome-settings-daemon --oaf-actimatt      3414     1  0  2004 ?        00:00:46 xscreensaver -nosplash
matt      3417     1  0  2004 ?        00:11:36 /usr/bin/metacity --sm-client-idmatt      3421     1  0  2004 ?        00:07:51 gnome-panel --sm-client-id defaumatt      3423     1  0  2004 ?        00:14:46 nautilus --no-default-window --smatt      3425     1  0  2004 ?        00:09:08 magicdev --sm-client-id default4matt      3427     1  0  2004 ?        00:01:56 eggcups --sm-client-id default6
matt      3429     1  0  2004 ?        00:00:35 pam-panel-icon --sm-client-id dematt      3431     1  0  2004 ?        00:01:33 /usr/bin/python /usr/bin/rhn-approot      3432  3429  0  2004 ?        00:00:01 [pam_timestamp_c]
matt      6721     1  0  2004 ?        00:01:53 eggcups
matt      8045     1  0  2004 ?        00:00:00 kdeinit: Running...
matt      8048     1  0  2004 ?        00:00:00 kdeinit: dcopserver --nosid --sumatt      8051     1  0  2004 ?        00:00:00 kdeinit: klauncher
matt      8053     1  0  2004 ?        00:07:24 kdeinit: kded
matt     12644     1  0  2004 ?        00:00:08 kdeinit: kio_uiserver
matt     12648     1  0  2004 ?        00:00:07 kdeinit: knotify
matt     12658     1  0  2004 ?        00:00:15 /usr/bin/kalarmd
matt      2021     1  0  2004 ?        00:01:08 /usr/libexec/eog-image-viewer --matt      9099  3193  0 Jan02 ?        00:00:00 [fam]
root      9302     1  0 Jan02 ?        00:00:26 ./whatpulselinux -k
matt     26905  8045  0 Jan18 ?        00:00:00 kdeinit: kio_file file /tmp/ksocroot     27059  3282  0 Jan18 ?        00:00:00 [smbd]
matt     29463     1  0 Jan20 ?        00:01:54 xmms -e
matt     30686     1  0 12:55 ?        00:00:00 /bin/sh /home/matt/programs/firematt     30698 30686  0 12:55 ?        00:00:00 /bin/sh /home/matt/programs/firematt     30703 30698  4 12:55 ?        00:04:00 /home/matt/programs/firefox/firematt     30866     1 10 14:24 ?        00:00:00 /usr/bin/gnome-terminal
matt     30867 30866  0 14:24 ?        00:00:00 [gnome-pty-helpe]
matt     30868 30866  2 14:24 pts/1    00:00:00 bash
matt     30894 30868  0 14:24 pts/1    00:00:00 ps -ef

I could never get up2date to work. Is there a way to reinstall it or is there something else I could use?

david_ross · 01-22-2005, 01:43 PM

There doesn't seem to be too much running that you don't need but you could probably stop portmap unless you use nfs. Do you share files to windows machines? if not you could stop samba. What do you use for printing if anything - you may be able to stop cups.

What happened when you tried to use up2date? Would it not start?

krock923 · 01-22-2005, 01:50 PM

Yes, I share to a windows machine and I have a two printers conected to that windows machine. I'm not sure if cups would be needed for that?

Well, I just tried up2date again and I got a little farther this time. I ran rhn_register to try and register with the redhat network. Once I finally got my proxy configured, I was able to do that. It got up to the step of sending a profile to the RHN and then after it said it was reading rpm headers, it presented a screen with channels to subscribe to. After I clicked next, it said it was sending something and a progress bar came up. The progress bar is still up, although the application seems to have frozen. I can bring up the progress dialog and the main window, but both are blank. However, there is internet activity on the computer with the internet connection and it is coming from my linux box. I am not sure if this means it is doing something that I have to just wait for.

krock923 · 01-22-2005, 02:38 PM

Well, I finally got up2date to work. I have a question though. Should I have it update kernel too? By default, it doesn't. Currently I have kernel version 2.4.20-8. But, what does up2date do when it update a kernel?