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Old 10-31-2004, 06:23 AM   #1
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my beef with Gnome !


hey guys.. im trying really hard to like gnome, basically because i like the way it looks more than KDE, its cleaner, more crisp.

anyways, im trying to learn how to use it, but im having difficulty's with some things,
especially the theme manager.

ive downloaded some themes, gtk2 themes, metacity themes.
i open the theme manager, and open the archived themes. and select install.

then it seems, the heme manager simply un tars the themes into the $HOME/.theme directory.

well now what ?

ive worked out how to use gconf-2 to set the metacity theme, but how do i change the gtk theme ?

i assumed it would apear in the theme manager after it was installed, but nope.

any ideas anybody ?
 
Old 10-31-2004, 06:45 AM   #2
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A word of warning: never show a prefrence when the subject is one of the Holy Wars.
 
Old 10-31-2004, 06:57 AM   #3
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well its an honest question.
i love KDE, but i feel the interface is a little too distracting.

i like KDE, but somtimes the eyecandy is a little distracting.
with GNome, the only things that grab my eye are the parts that interest me... thinks that can be clicked, or typed, or read.

but although Gnome is quite a mature project, i feel that the theme management sinply sucks.
i need somthing with resembles windows registry editor to change windows decorations, and gtk2 themes seem to do nothing.
i select the theme file, hit install.. then nothing, no theme is changed, no theme apears in the menu, and no error message ?
 
Old 10-31-2004, 07:42 AM   #4
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gtk themes are installed in /usr/share/themes or /home/user/.themes and then change them, from the menu entry that says "preferences -> themes".
 
Old 10-31-2004, 11:09 AM   #5
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/usr/share/themes is the standard place to put any theme

just untar the files yourself into that directory, then the theme manager might help you (from what it looks like, the theme has to come with some short of file for the theme manager to read to know about the theme)

but IMHO the theme manager isn't the worst part of gnome ........... good luck
 
Old 10-31-2004, 02:13 PM   #6
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this seems to work.
but the annoying thing, is that its documented everythere that the correct place is in $HOME/.themes
which does not seem to work.

i can see myself sticking with KDE.

thanks anyways.
looks like its back to KDE when im feeling fluffy, and fluxbox when im feeling efficiant.
 
Old 11-01-2004, 08:28 PM   #7
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yeah I was wondering when somebody would bring up flux, icewm, or enlightenment =P
 
Old 11-01-2004, 09:59 PM   #8
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Gnome is like Chinese Food (the americanized stuff).
Every once in awhile you get this urge to have some and once your done you can't imagine why on earth you thought wanted that crap. You walk around feeling all bloated and sluggish...

 
Old 11-01-2004, 11:00 PM   #9
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Gnome is like Chinese Food (the americanized stuff).
Every once in awhile you get this urge to have some and once your done you can't imagine why on earth you thought wanted that crap. You walk around feeling all bloated and sluggish...
WOW.. that described the siruation PERFECTLY...
well, except i like chinese food... i live in the UK so i dont know what the americanised stuf is like...

but just to be on the safe side, replace the shinese foor part with a chicken and mushroom flaoured pot-noodle.
 
Old 11-01-2004, 11:24 PM   #10
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OK, so I installed fluxbox today, and honestly I don't get it... like how do I put icons on my desktop, etc? I got a wallpaper set up, but that's about as far as I got. Can anybody point me to a good tutorial or something? Thanks alot.

PS, I hope I'm not hijacking the thread or anything, this seems like an appropriate place for the question, so I'll just have to hope for the best
 
Old 11-02-2004, 07:08 AM   #11
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icons on the desktop.... with fluxbox you dont, but you can use anouther seperate rpogram to do that.

what do you mean you dont get it ?

its a minimalist windowmanager. desiggned to be functional and fast. no eye candy.

you have a task bar. and a programs menu.
 
Old 11-02-2004, 07:12 AM   #12
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/me loves the "where are my icons" bit that always comes up. Then you try to explain you dont need them, you open a program via a menu, and then they run back to gnome/kde/windows =P
 
Old 11-02-2004, 07:50 AM   #13
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indeed, that it's a window manager not a desktop environment, fluxbox exists so you can move X applications about the screen, organise windows, switch windows etc; it's not there to organise your life.

Having said that, does anyone know if it's possible to run xmms as a slit application in fluxbox. (same goes for gaim too).

edit: nvm found wmxmms which sits in the slit
 
Old 11-02-2004, 08:04 AM   #14
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its a minimalist windowmanager. . .you have a task bar. and a programs menu.
Heh. . . I have fvwm set up so it doesn't even have that much: I don't like taskbars
 
Old 11-02-2004, 09:25 AM   #15
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my flux recently completely changed it's taskbar/task handling, before it only showed "iconised" apps in the taskbar, now it shows all,.

Also, before alt tabbing would just go through in a specific order, now it goes in an order the same way windows/KDE does, ie if you open a window and alt tab it'll go back to the last you looked at.

The alt-tabbing behaviour is much improved. (but I don't know what caused this change!) but the taskbar behaviour I prefered the old style (esp for some apps like xmms/gaim which I don't want in my taskbar), anyone know what could have caused this change? I don't think I updated fluxbox.
 
  


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