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Old 02-13-2002, 03:49 PM   #1
mikeyt_333
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Moving to 100% Linux


Hey.
So what's everybody's opinion on moving to 100% Linux/Unix? I would like to but I have some limitations. I am a sysadmin/webmaster and thus need the ability to test pages in both Netscape and IE, I have yet to get IE to run using wine (this is the first time I have tried). I haven't looked to deeply into programs like StarOffice etc... But they do look promising. Ummm... What are other options besides WINE if there are any?

Thanks!
Mike.

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I realize this is not the first time somebody has posted this, but my issues are a little more specific. Like needing IE and Netscape to test webpages etc...

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Old 02-13-2002, 04:18 PM   #2
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For me i'll never be able to completly make the 'switch' becuase i have a semi-job and i need to do work that cannot be done in linux becuase of the software, or should i say...lack of... which include all of Macromedia, some of adobe have no replacements in linux, and discreet products too
 
Old 02-13-2002, 04:20 PM   #3
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I hear ya there, but adobe seems to slowly be making a transition. I could be wrong though.
 
Old 02-13-2002, 04:22 PM   #4
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I am proud to say that the flagship of 3d products, Maya has made the switch to linux and is distributing their training computers exclusively with redhat linux.
 
Old 02-13-2002, 04:46 PM   #5
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If your machine has the clock cycles, try Vmware. You'll be installing the whole windows operating system on a virtual machine so bye-bye performance, but if all you need to do is test page load in IE, then it will more than suit.

Cheers,

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Old 02-13-2002, 05:18 PM   #6
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it's those damn games...

that keep a Windows partition on my drive. I only give it like 20 gigs but it's embarassing in a sense. If it wasn't for gameplaying (apart from distro including distractors and tiresome first person shooters) I wouldn't need it at all.

VMware is pretty cool and compared to most emulators that I've used is fairly reliable. I won't say anything about performance but as was said earlier - if you're just after minimal test browsing it should work just fine.

Which brings up and interesting point - it would be nice to have a cross platform validator for HTML that pays attention to browser specific tags, etc either to weed them out or to simply verify if they work or not.

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Old 02-13-2002, 05:40 PM   #7
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what about actually using VMWare for running Dreamweaver? I broke down the other day and installed DW on my wife's windows machine, because I hated CoffeeCup so much. If I could run DW in VMWare at a *reasonable* speed, I would do it.

Anyone have any realtime experience with this?

I have a 333mhz with 392mb RAM, nothing special in the way of hardware...
 
Old 02-13-2002, 06:13 PM   #8
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There are a couple things I don't like about things like DW:
(This is based on no knowledge what so ever, except what other WYSIWYG editors, and other non text based editors.)

I don't like the way they mess with my code after I'm done with it. I code by hand basically, I know it is slower, but it is what I prefer.

Also DW costs $$$ which I don't have :-\ that is really the main issue.

Also as far as VMware goes, my system will not run it, I am only running a P166, 64mb ram, plenty of hard drive, but I can't afford to upgrade just yet.

Mike.
 
Old 02-13-2002, 06:32 PM   #9
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Well we all know there is alternate sources ..so to speak available.

Do you actually think i paid $30,000 for Maya 4 Unlimited?
 
Old 02-13-2002, 07:18 PM   #10
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http://www.win4lin.com/
 
Old 02-13-2002, 08:41 PM   #11
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Quote:
This license unlocks NeTraverse Win4LinTM 3.0 - Download version to provide the full functionality of the CD version. Click here to download Win4Lin 3.0.


w4l-30-1$79.99
Most of us don't have that much money to spend... but i would get it if i had the cash money.
 
Old 02-14-2002, 12:21 AM   #12
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every so often i run into a problem with a website that needs explorer - other than that, i hardly ever make any use of my windows partition. it's great to be able to use linux almost exclusively, but i keep windows 98 around just in case i need a windows-only prog. luckily, that doesn't happen much anymore.
 
Old 02-14-2002, 03:23 AM   #13
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I kerpt a win 98 parition on one of my boxes until about a month ago, I decided that as I had not used it for over 6 months there was not a lot of need to keep it.

I do not need photoshop or dreamweaver, I can do all I need to to using StarOffice (6.0). For anything net based the linux tools are far superior to anything in windows. Try using galeon for a while and then go back to IE, you will miss the tabbed browsing and the stability.
 
Old 02-14-2002, 06:54 AM   #14
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If you want to validate your html then use the HTML Validator at W3C.
 
Old 02-14-2002, 10:22 AM   #15
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The next problem I would say I'm having is a speed issue. I do only have a p166 and so RH 7.2 even running GMC instead of Nautilus is still bogging down my system, any time I try to use Star office it hangs, I'm gonna try RH 7.1 as soon as I get the RH 7.2 ISO's burnt on CD.

Mike.
 
  


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