MORE sound problems... help!

BongFish · 08-17-2003, 12:11 PM

Hi,

I use XMMS to play mp3's and when using the ratpoison WM it works perfectly however it won't work under KDE!

If I try to play MP3's in KDE it comes up with the Check sound card, check drivers, check devices warning.

I don't get it, any help would be much apreciated because even though I use ratpoison most of the time KDE comes in useful.

Thanks.

MasterC · 08-17-2003, 12:18 PM

Sounds like a problem with ARTSd, the KDE sound server. I believe disabling that (in your KDE control center, under Sound, uncheck "Start Arts on KDE startup") will do the trick

COol

BongFish · 08-17-2003, 12:22 PM

I'll give it a go and get back to you, I'm not on my linux box at the moment.

What's the deal with ARTSd anyway? What's wrong with KDE using good old OSS or ALSA.

BongFish · 08-17-2003, 12:22 PM

I'll give it a go and get back to you, I'm not on my linux box at the moment.

What's the deal with ARTSd anyway, What's wrong with KDE using good old OSS or ALSA?

MasterC · 08-17-2003, 12:50 PM

An ya know, just whatever floats their boat at the time

Everyone wants to make something better (a good thing!) sometimes they do, sometimes they don't. Plus, a lot of people like Artsd, it works great in some situations, and for some people. You might even be able to get it to work for you, but for now, you are probably best of disabling it and just working on it later.

OSS and ALSA are drivers for the soundcard, not sound servers. ESD (the Esound daemon) and ArtsD are sound servers. They queue up the sound, ensure certain devices have access to the sound device, and so on. Different than a driver

Cool

BongFish · 08-17-2003, 12:59 PM

Ah, So I need either ESD or ARTSd running?

I guess the standard is ESD and that's what ratpoison is using?

I hav two gaps in my tecchie knowledge and they are drivers and how the internet works, so pardon my ignorance.

MasterC · 08-17-2003, 01:05 PM

That's ok, my knowledge is more like swiss cheese, it's solid, but so damn holy that you really only get half the block!

Ok, so now where was I, cheese got me all hungry...

Nah, you don't need either AFAIK. Here's a glance at my ps:

Code:

USER       PID %CPU %MEM   VSZ  RSS TTY      STAT START   TIME COMMAND
root         1  0.0  0.0   444  216 ?        S    08:34   0:05 init
root         2  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        SW   08:34   0:00 [keventd]
root         3  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        SWN  08:34   0:00 [ksoftirqd_CPU0]
root         4  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        SW   08:34   0:00 [kswapd]
root         5  0.1  0.0     0    0 ?        SW   08:34   0:14 [kscand]
root         6  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        SW   08:34   0:00 [bdflush]
root         7  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        SW   08:34   0:00 [kupdated]
root         8  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        SW   08:34   0:00 [khubd]
root         9  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        SW<  08:34   0:00 [mdrecoveryd]
root        10  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        SW   08:34   0:00 [khttpd manager]
root        11  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        SW   08:34   0:00 [kjournald]
root        28  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        SW   08:34   0:00 [kjournald]
root        29  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        SW   08:34   0:00 [kjournald]
root        30  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        SW   08:34   0:00 [kjournald]
root        31  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        SW   08:34   0:00 [kjournald]
root        32  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        SW   08:34   0:00 [kjournald]
root        33  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        SW   08:34   0:00 [kjournald]
root        35  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        SW   08:34   0:00 [kjournald]
root        36  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        SW   08:34   0:00 [kjournald]
root        91  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        SW   08:34   0:00 [eth0]
rpc         95  0.0  0.0  1448  560 ?        S    08:34   0:00 /sbin/rpc.portmap
root        97  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        SW   08:34   0:00 [rpciod]
root        98  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        SW   08:34   0:00 [lockd]
root       103  0.0  0.1  1860  756 ?        S    08:34   0:00 /usr/sbin/syslogd
root       107  0.0  0.0  1296  464 ?        S    08:34   0:00 /usr/sbin/klogd -
c 3 -x
root       109  0.0  0.1  1836  696 ?        S    08:34   0:00 /usr/sbin/inetd
root       112  0.0  0.1  2684 1144 ?        S    08:34   0:00 /usr/sbin/sshd
root       117  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        SW   08:34   0:00 [nfsd]
root       118  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        SW   08:34   0:00 [nfsd]
root       119  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        SW   08:34   0:00 [nfsd]
root       120  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        SW   08:34   0:00 [nfsd]
root       121  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        SW   08:34   0:00 [nfsd]
root       122  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        SW   08:34   0:00 [nfsd]
root       123  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        SW   08:34   0:00 [nfsd]
root       124  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        SW   08:34   0:00 [nfsd]
root       127  0.0  0.1  1484  652 ?        S    08:34   0:00 /usr/sbin/rpc.mou
ntd
root       130  0.0  0.1  1456  668 ?        S    08:34   0:00 /usr/sbin/rpc.sta
td
lp         139  0.0  0.1  2008  884 ?        S    08:34   0:00 lpd Waiting  
root       142  0.0  0.0  1420  568 ?        S    08:34   0:00 /usr/sbin/crond -
l10
root       147  0.0  0.0  1300  524 ?        S    08:34   0:00 /usr/sbin/acpid
root       149  0.0  0.0  1344  524 ?        S    08:34   0:00 gpm -m /dev/mouse -t imps2
masterc    157  0.0  0.1  2112 1196 tty1     S    08:34   0:00 -bash
root       158  0.0  0.0  1284  484 tty2     S    08:34   0:00 /sbin/agetty 3840
0 tty2 linux
root       159  0.0  0.0  1284  484 tty3     S    08:34   0:00 /sbin/agetty 3840
0 tty3 linux
root       160  0.0  0.0  1284  484 tty4     S    08:34   0:00 /sbin/agetty 3840
0 tty4 linux
root       161  0.0  0.0  1284  484 tty5     S    08:34   0:00 /sbin/agetty 3840
0 tty5 linux
root       162  0.0  0.0  1284  484 tty6     S    08:34   0:00 /sbin/agetty 3840
0 tty6 linux
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root       164  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        SW   08:34   0:00 [scsi_eh_1]
masterc    256  0.0  0.1  1876  892 tty1     S    08:50   0:00 /bin/sh /usr/X11R
6/bin/startx
masterc    264  0.0  0.0  2092  644 tty1     S    08:50   0:00 xinit /home/maste
rc/.xinitrc --
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masterc    270  0.0  0.3  3656 2044 tty1     S    08:50   0:01 /opt/fluxbox/bin/
fluxbox
masterc    273  0.0  0.8  7824 5396 tty1     S    08:50   0:01 gkrellm -w
masterc    275  0.0  0.1  2148  760 tty1     S    08:50   0:00 root-tail -g 150x20x15+5 /var/log/messages yellow /var/log/xferlog white /var/log/proftpd.log gre
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he/curvins.com/error_log red
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masterc    286 93.2  2.2 15376 14180 tty1    RN   08:51 121:46 /home/seti//setia
thome -nice 19 -email
masterc    308  0.0  0.3  3316 1960 ?        S    08:53   0:00 oafd --ac-activat
e --ior-output-fd=10
masterc    442  0.0  0.3  3556 2088 tty1     S    09:51   0:00 /usr/bin/gconfd-1
 6
masterc    490  6.7  5.5 54936 35548 tty1    S    10:01   4:02 /usr/bin/galeon-b
in
masterc    495  0.0  5.5 54936 35548 tty1    S    10:01   0:00 /usr/bin/galeon-b
in
masterc    496  0.0  5.5 54936 35548 tty1    S    10:01   0:00 /usr/bin/galeon-b
in
masterc    497  0.0  5.5 54936 35548 tty1    S    10:01   0:00 /usr/bin/galeon-b
in
masterc    498  0.0  5.5 54936 35548 tty1    S    10:01   0:01 /usr/bin/galeon-b
in
masterc    512  0.0  5.5 54936 35548 tty1    S    10:09   0:00 /usr/bin/galeon-b
in
masterc    520  0.0  1.6 26484 10668 ?       S    10:16   0:01 xmms
masterc    521  0.0  1.6 26484 10668 ?       S    10:16   0:00 xmms
masterc    522  0.0  1.6 26484 10668 ?       S    10:16   0:00 xmms
masterc    523  0.0  1.6 26484 10668 ?       S    10:16   0:00 xmms
masterc    679  0.1  1.6 26484 10668 ?       S    10:59   0:00 xmms
masterc    680  0.2  1.6 26484 10668 ?       S    10:59   0:00 xmms
root       682  0.8  0.3  4288 2176 ?        S    11:01   0:00 xterm -cr blue -b
g grey
masterc    683  0.1  0.1  2108 1164 pts/0    S    11:01   0:00 bash
masterc    684  0.0  0.2  3840 1824 pts/0    R    11:01   0:00 ps aux

As you can see, I have no sound server running, yet XMMS plays just fine, as well as many other sounds (video etc..).

ESD and ARtsD isn't necessary, it's rather a feature than a requirement.

HTH

Cool

BongFish · 08-18-2003, 07:33 AM

It works now I stoped ARTS, the only thing that seems to be different without arts as opposed to having it running is when I ffwd MP3's using my remote it seems more 'chopy' but that's all.

Also I think I know what broke it in the first place, mpg123!!

XMMS first stoped working when I tried mpg123 out and even now when I play a teach using it it only plays the first 1/2 second then stops. It takes a reboot to get sound working again for any application.

Thanks.