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Old 04-15-2003, 08:30 PM   #1
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Mandrake 9.1/KDE launching programs slow


I did a search, but couldn't find any posts where someone was having a similar slowness.

When I open up a program, or even just another window, I see the title in the task bar pop up and the little hour glass spins away for several seconds - perhaps sometimes up to a minute, before the program or window finally appears on the screen. There's hardly any hard drive access, so I know it's not sitting there loading anything.

What's odd is that if I CTRL-ALT-F3, log in as root and do a STARTX -- :1, that particular KDE session will run extremely fast. Click on programs or open windows and they will immediately pop up. But the other session will still run like crap.

My system hardware is as follows:

AMD Duron 1GHz, 128MB RAM, 20GB hard drive.

Any ideas will be appreciated.
 
Old 04-16-2003, 11:19 AM   #2
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I have the same problem, when I want to launch openoffice or mozilla, oe any other programs, it can take up to two min, and sometimes the program does not start at all, now here is the strange thing, if I re-install and do F1 at boot and enter linux vga=0 then when finished installing and after re-boot it goes at light speed, but after some hours or a again re-boot it is back to mega slow. It looks like a memory problem, like you no hard disk access, MD 9.0 works OK on the same computer, but MD 9.1 has problems, I think it could be the Gforce4 MMX 400 64MB graphic card..

My System is:
Intel Celeron 1.7GHZ
512MB DDR RAM
40GB IBM Hard Disk
40GB Maxtor Hard Disk
GFORCE 4 MMX 64MB Graphic Card
 
Old 04-16-2003, 12:15 PM   #3
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Thanks for the reply.

I don't think it's video related, or at least specific to the GeForce card. I'm running it on a VIA KLE133 integrated chipset platform.
 
Old 04-21-2003, 07:49 AM   #4
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I am having the same problem with Mandrake 9.1 running slow, being sluggish. I thought it was because I was running other stuff like Samba and LinNeighborhood, etc. I did a search here for "slow and mandrake" and up came your thread.

After reading the posts here I now think it is something else. Could it be KDE? I didn't install Gnome.

Any of your guys running Gnome as well? and Do you see the same problem?
 
Old 05-24-2003, 01:59 AM   #5
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I'm running the ICEWM gui and mine runs very slow as well. I'm dual booting on an XP machine. i only gave the "home" directory 15 gb of space..... but i'm running 1.3 ghz athlon xp w/ 256 mb ram and a GeForce 2 my computer should be able to handle it easily... it doesn't make sense to me...

Enjoi.
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Old 05-24-2003, 08:39 AM   #6
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Wow strange...I'm running 9.1 on a couple of machines (an Athlon 1.Ghz and a laptop P133) and I'm noticing a good performance improvement over 9.0...

Comment, someone mentionned Open Office, I wouldn't count on that as a benchmark of anything opening slow...its slow on ANY machine..windows, linux, fast or slow...its just the way Open Office is.

Now, as for the speed issue...is EVERYTHING slow? Or just opening programs?

Someone mentionned there's only a little disk I/O...whats your swap space like?
ShakyJake as 128Megs of RAM, so I'm tempted to say, yeah, things are going to open up slow...that's certainly a factor...but it shouldn't be that bad. I only have 192 on the laptop (and my SO has 128 on her 400...) and the speed's ok.

(shooting in the dark)
 
Old 07-06-2003, 03:24 PM   #7
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I also have the slow problem. "the little hour glass spins away for 10-60 seconds". It Is Memory Related:

If you use the "top" command in a terminal window you can monitor memory usage. In my case (256MB ram) mandrake 9.1 uses approx 115MB ram in the beginning and after a some minutes it reaches 256 and starts to swap. It is at this point mandrake becomes so damn slow.
I use mandrake and dual boot with winXP. Athlon XP 1800+, VIAKT333, Gforce4MX ,promise raid controller. I wonder what causes this..
 
Old 07-06-2003, 03:42 PM   #8
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What services are you guys running? Check in the Mandrake Control Centre. Some will improve speed and some will lag your pc. The swapping doesnt sound good though, maybe a memory leak. Got the latest package updates from MandrakeSoft?
 
Old 07-07-2003, 12:12 AM   #9
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On my computer it was memory realated, I changed the RAM , and for some unknown reason it is mega fast, even the old RAM is installed in another Computer and also have MDK 9.1 installed and also works perfect, so I don't know why before so slow..

I'm using:

P4 1.7 GHZ
512 MB DDR RAM
NIVIDA 64 MB Display Card
7200 RPM 40 GB IBM HARD DISK

I also think it can in some cases be the Display card problem, but most likley Memory
 
Old 08-01-2003, 01:48 PM   #10
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Thumbs up Install the Mandrake Online updates

Hey,

A few weeks ago I read this forum, and I resolved the problem described with the new release of Mandrake 9.1, installing the online upgrades.

I am running Linux Mandrake 9.1 on my laptop:

Compaq Armada M700

It was very dissapointing when I experienced the slow responses of my system, but now that is resolved I have a great OS, running very fast.

My background is pure Microsoft, and I must to recognize that this OS is really stable and full of applications for almost every purpose.

Extra Applications I have running: AMSN, Yahoo Messenger, MySQL, MySQL Control Center, Phonix Object Basic, Palm OS Emulator for Linux, I use FLPhoto 1.1 with my Kodak DX3600.

At the office I use KMail via IMAP, SambaClient for share resources with my partners at work, a lot of Virtual Network Connections using RDP 5.0 for Terminal Server Sessions

I have installed GNome and KDE, I prefer KDE because is more customizable than Gnome, I installed a desktop and style look and fell like Windows XP.

Time using Linux in my whole life: 1.5 months.

Reading: OReilly - Understanding the Linux Kernel in PDF.

Thanks for be there.
 
Old 08-01-2003, 08:29 PM   #11
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In /etc/sysctl.conf you can add or change the line

dev.rtc.max-user-freq=1024

OR

login as su or root and type
echo 1024 > /proc/sys/dev/rtc/max-user-freq

If you are going to install mplayer or other video/sound player programs, you have to do the above one of these days to make those programs perform better.

The next thing you should do is re-compile your kernel.

My LINUX system is 700 MHz Athlon 'Classic' on a KX133 chipset with 512 megabytes of KingMAX memory. It goes fast before that I re-compile and also goes two times faster after I re-compile my kernel. I re-compiled the kernel for 586/686/K7 but I'm not sure what GCC optimizations that it did. I use KDE, but I turn off the effects that it does and turn off some services that I don't need.

In Windows, programs like Internet Explorer, Word, Excel, Power Point, Access, etc has some of their components ran in memory. When ever you run those programs they ran in an instant. In LINUX, none of the program's components are ran in memory, so thats why programs in LINUX runs slow. You could run LINUX programs as daemons. When you run the program it will load quickly. However you will lose memory and cpu resources making it feel like a Windows OS.

BTW, Almost forgot if you see soundwrapper in the menu editor, remove it. I did and LINUX loads programs much faster.
 
Old 08-02-2003, 05:05 AM   #12
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In Windows, programs like Internet Explorer, Word, Excel, Power Point, Access, etc has some of their components ran in memory. When ever you run those programs they ran in an instant. In LINUX, none of the program's components are ran in memory, so thats why programs in LINUX runs slow. You could run LINUX programs as daemons. When you run the program it will load quickly. However you will lose memory and cpu resources making it feel like a Windows OS.

BTW, Almost forgot if you see soundwrapper in the menu editor, remove it. I did and LINUX loads programs much faster.
I'd have to say that's not true. The linux kernel loves to use loads of ram to cache things like the Gtk or Qt widget libraries to speed apps. The soundwrapper can definately help speed and performance, it depends how much you've altered your setup from how the distributors configured it, when it would work better with the wrapper.
 
  


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