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i think the command line interface is about 100 times better and safer than any MS OS ever was / will be.
the gui, not so much. but it's not necessary for system admin.
for other things, i like my gui to be somewhat loosely stitched together, and being able to only use the things i need, and choose minimalistic versions.
We're past its 'adolescent stage' and have moved on to 'young adult'.
In another decade the masses of current Linux users will have also
matured.
</opinion>
We're past its 'adolescent stage' and have moved on to 'young adult'.
In another decade the masses of current Linux users will have also
matured.
</opinion>
Well, consider OS/X and iOS, which run millions of Macintoshes, iPhones, and other Apple-brand devices.
All of these are: "Unix."
But, does the user know? Much less care? No. Because Apple does not require them to. There's really nothing in their system that obliges you to understand how the damn thing works: it just does. And that's really what any hardware/software engineer most wants to achieve.
Android devices ... guess what ... run (a modified version of) Linux. But, once again, the owner of the phone doesn't need to know nor care. And emphatically doesn't want to.
However, does that not mean that "Linux is mature?" It's so mature that you don't know it's there. "Perfect."
Think of a computer as an appliance, rather like a car. You want to "get inside and drive it." 98 of all people who own cars never raise the hood. And 99.9% of them don't want to.
Almost anything that isn't related to a GUI is mature as far as I'm concerned. GUI stuff however isn't even close... at least in my experience. Is one of the reasons I went back to Windows for my laptop. Seemed like every single day I had to fix something, regardless of whatever distro I was using at the time. Oddly enough the one I had the least trouble with was Arch.
Linux will always have a place on my server, but I'm done for awhile with desktop / laptop use I think.
Last edited by jmgibson1981; 07-09-2015 at 11:47 AM.
Almost anything that isn't related to a GUI is mature as far as I'm concerned. GUI stuff however isn't even close... at least in my experience. Is one of the reasons I went back to Windows for my laptop. Seemed like every single day I had to fix something, regardless of whatever distro I was using at the time. Oddly enough the one I had the least trouble with was Arch.
Linux will always have a place on my server, but I'm done for awhile with desktop / laptop use I think.
That's odd. I've been using OpenSUSE on my laptop for about 3 years now, and I don't recall ever having to fix anything GUI related (or anything at all for that matter). I do spend most of my time on the command line though, I don't use the system GUI tools very often.
That's odd. I've been using OpenSUSE on my laptop for about 3 years now, and I don't recall ever having to fix anything GUI related (or anything at all for that matter). I do spend most of my time on the command line though, I don't use the system GUI tools very often.
It's always little things. On the *buntus I had trouble with themes not loading about half the time on fresh boot. On OpenSuse I had trouble with the hostname staying how I set it, no amount of googling gave me answers. On CentOS7 no matter how many variations I tried I couldn't get a Minecraft server to run at boot with the systemd file, but it starts right up with systemctl start minecraft. It seems to be a never ending headache. On Arch I've been randomly logged out a few times. I went back to Windows because of Rosetta Stone and a religious library app, both of which run great on wine according to google... they just error out every time for me.
It was just a ton of hassle, always troubleshooting this or that. I could go on with other difficulties that I had to fix almost weekly or monthly but in the end I went back to Windows, got a Windows phone, love it. On a side note the Windows experience with mobile is far superior to Android I find as well, so it just works out. Miss linux on the desktop but don't miss the battle. If I could come up with decent web based management for kvm on my little server I would be set.
*EDIT* I know my hardware is good, and I checked the sha1 or md5 of every distro iso I ever used, I can't explain the troubles I've always had.
Last edited by jmgibson1981; 07-09-2015 at 12:21 PM.
hmmmm, lemme think here. Linux is 24 yrs old now. it runs the root of all of your BYOD's from Android to Blackberry's. The Internet grew up on Linux / Apache. Apple is *nix also but not Linux ,soooo..... So ya I'd say Linux is all grown up. Mind you that with any GUI based system there are bound to be glitches here and there, But they are found quickly due to the fact that it is open source. But the nice thing is that it will just keep getting better and better.
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