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Old 07-05-2005, 02:36 AM   #1
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Linux guru


Hi all !

I just heard the term "he is a Linux guru" , so my question is for them .
How do you , mr Linux guru , become so "knowing everything about Linux" ...
I use PC as a programmer for only 3 years , 2,5 of which I spent with M$ ( Windows API , MFC , .NET etc ) ;
( I code some cool windows apps , but that was for windows..... )
6 month ago , I saw some Linux guys how fast do they type in that consoles , how do they pathetically talk about Linux ,
I was so excited in that , that I decided to install a Linux distro and to become like them...
To know everything about something && to have an OS at your feet is really cool !!!
I used RH , Mandrake , Debian ... and in every distro I found something not suitable for me.
Now I stopped at gentoo ; hope this is last.
I just throwed away Windows ,... and for 6 month use only Linux , but my Linux IQ results seems to be also far far away from those cool hacker...

Now question , to those who reply on this forums , to felts himself a Linux guru:
could you give me some advices , how do achieve that ?
what was the path you trapped on ?
What books do you read ? What forums/sites do to visit the most , for this purpose ?
What is you general method to learn Linux ?
Do you read all those HowTo's ?

Thanks
 
Old 07-05-2005, 02:48 AM   #2
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Guru, (noun): One who knows how to read the manual
 
Old 07-05-2005, 03:00 AM   #3
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Guru, (noun): One who knows how to read the manual
What manual? howTo's ? man pages ? every app manuals ? every article on the net ?
 
Old 07-05-2005, 03:26 AM   #4
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man, that question is gonna cause people to think more things that are gonna make them scratch the bottoms of them brains.

Well, if you wanna become a linux guru, which is easy if you have time to do so, tho you wont be as perfect as others may be, since many people tend to do better than others but in certain specific fields such as networking, internet, file sharing, debugging, programming, etc....

I suggest that you should read the documentation of your own distro and of the commands that you wanna try out. That of course will make you a linux guru of your own distro.

Perhaps its high time that linux users dig deep into linux manuals and documentations.
 
Old 07-05-2005, 03:28 AM   #5
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Man pages are a good place to start, but I usually find Google to be a good first choice.
 
Old 07-05-2005, 03:33 AM   #6
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First things first: being a "guru" is relative. There is no rite of passage or any specific sequence of events to make someone a guru. To someone that just installed Linux the first time, they might consider me a guru. Compared to some of the other folks here, I'm a newbie myself. Don't look for a one-size-fits-all definition of a guru.

Second, if you want to become knowledgeable about something, you have to do (at least) two very general things:
1) Explore/experiment/test
2) Read

For #1, that implies you have an interest in what you're exploring. If you don't have a genuine interest in what you're doing, you're not going to get far. As for #2, what you read can vary, but there are lots of sources. You can read anything from posts on this site to How-To documents to README files to source code. The reading is meant to bookend the experimentation. You read enough to start playing with something, you tinker with it until it breaks, and then you read to find out why it broke.

Becoming knowledgeable about something requires reading as well as doing. Like I said, there is no specific path, but I will let you in on a secret: there is no end. There is always something more to learn; you will never know everything about Linux or the software that runs around it.

I guarantee you there are things about Linux or software that runs under Linux that Linus Torvalds himself does not know.
 
Old 07-05-2005, 04:10 AM   #7
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Ask yourself first WHY you want to become a so-called linux guru.
Is it to impress your friends, your family, your girlfriend ? Nobody
cares about linux.

There are many people on this site who could be labelled linux gurus
but who don't care. They know that it is an endless quest which some
choose to push further than others, that's all.

If you need so much that kind of recognition, just for the sake of it,
your life is pathetic, man.

On the contrary, if you want to reach that hazy level, you will have soon
forgotten to think about it and just try to learn as much you can.
This is the point here, not the 'guru' title.
 
Old 07-05-2005, 05:57 AM   #8
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You should not aim to be "the best" Linux user - just work through documentation, try what it is saying, and see how you turn out. Linux is just an alternative operating system - get it so you can do (almost) all you do on Windows, perhaps more. If others need help, and you are able to help them, all the better.
 
Old 07-05-2005, 11:40 AM   #9
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A good way to become proficient at linux is to buy a linux administration book and read all of it. It will teach you the basics of about everything. Reading and interacting on linux forums helps a lot too.

By the way, if you think you're a linux noob, Gentoo is the worst place to start. :-)
 
Old 07-05-2005, 12:49 PM   #10
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Dark_Helmet, I applaud you and your fine answer!


Håkan
 
Old 07-05-2005, 03:34 PM   #11
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mann mit dem dunkelhelm

I agree with hw-tph, dark helmet's answer covers everything.

But sometimes everything isn't enough :-DDD

One basic rule applies, "the smaller your subject, the easier it is to be a guru".

So I'm a "find" command guru. Actually it's true! I've read the man page tons of times, I have several printouts of it hanging around my castle (erm.. my shoebox home). SOmetimes (not often) I get a "find" question and cos I'm able to answer it, they call me a linux guru ... but you should see my fstab! It's terrible! I manually mount everything each time! "It's good for security" I tell myself :-)

Linux is too big, too general, too dynamic, too like nature itself ... for anybody to know the whole thing.

The best solution is a multudisciplnary groups: i.e. a number of so-called linux gurus, all good at different things. That explains the success of LQ I guess.
 
Old 07-05-2005, 04:05 PM   #12
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Originally posted by hw-tph
Dark_Helmet, I applaud you and your fine answer!


Håkan
I agree, very good advice... especially the point on "Interest" It is not enough to just want to become something. You have to have a true interest in it, the rest will come much easier. I would not want to be treated by a Doctor who is just in it for the money...

KC
 
Old 07-30-2005, 04:21 PM   #13
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Gento for hackers?

I found this on http://users.netwit.net.au/~pursang/distro.html: """Gentoo -Another similar distro that is becoming very popular. Like Debian and Slackware, Gentoo is probably more suited to experienced users than beginners. Gentoo is designed for extraordinary speed and flexibility, and uses an exceptionally sophisticated package management system that automatically resolves dependancies (like Debians' apt-get), and builds binaries optimized for your machine. If you are thinking of stepping up to a "hackers" distro, you should definitely check this one out.""
Is Gentoo really good for hackers?
What is the best distro for hackers? (Slackware?)
Anyone a hacker here?
 
Old 07-30-2005, 04:35 PM   #14
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Depends on what you think the definition of hacker is.

Most people think a hacker is a person who gains unauthorised access to systems and aims to corrupt, extract information from, or generally cause a nuisance to said system. In which case no distro has been built with that purpose in mind.

The true definition of a hacker is someone who endeavors to learn and is passionate about the area of expertise he is in and is for ever pushing the limits of what he knows and what he can do, generally someone who is at the front of their field. In which case Slackware and gentoo are good for that.
 
Old 07-30-2005, 05:18 PM   #15
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lol.

Quote:
Is Gentoo really good for hackers?
What is the best distro for hackers? (Slackware?)
Anyone a hacker here?
I would disappoint you.
I installed && and use gentoo for about 2 month.
Installed pretty easy.
I'am not a hacker; I'am just a simple lover for linux and all IT stuff.
If you wanna hack ( I mean create something useful, write some good programs , learn linux , networks etc ) , you could do that on any Unix like OS ( distro ) , even on your installed Mandrake ( Mandriva, or whatever ... ).


Ah , by the way.
If you are confused what is a hacker, and how to become one ,
read carefully read this :


Have fun.

http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html
 
  


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