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Old 05-19-2009, 01:24 PM   #16
grahamdcp
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thankyou..... lol , well i'm just drying off after my deep sea dive .. pummped in 10 vallium now im all ready to go...


I see your logic Repo yep sounds simple... which is good.

I think it best I explain a little better what I am trying to do..

back in the old days on that other op sys windy's

I used to carry a usb flash drive with irfanview setup and installed on it with all it's pluggins as well.
I setup and installed a few small games as well.
Whenever I was on other pc's not my own I could run my programs without installing them to the other pc's hard drives. Whilst having the option in the individual programs to save the results to any hdd on any computer.

I also had the option of copying my usb's software program folder with all pluggins to C/ program files on another hdd .

My only limitations when I installed this onto another pc from my usb flash drive via a straight copy /paste method was whatever I had initially setup on the usb flash drive.

In other words I couldn't add new pluggins or delete old ones but the program ran fine within those parameters that I had initially setup. very similar to limitations that you get when using a live cd without installing to hdd but creating a temp folder on the hdd for config and backups.

so what I was hoping to do is have a small distro with gimp and firefox setup to run from usb without installing to hdd.

But with the option to later install to hdd and get no restrictions when it comes to read and write. like a live cd which has an install feature.

now I can do all this is if i use windy's and have programs like PSCS Gimp irfanview browsers etc etc... right now

but I prefer the freedom of open source and linux in general. So i am basically trying to replicate my windy's days into linux days.

with the suggestions you have provided me I really appreciate the time and effort you are giving me . in this process I'm am learning quite a lot regarding the methodology in/outs of linux and it's various ways of doing things.

Best of all i'm having fun ,and enjoying the challenge.

time for me to look at your latest suggestions .. cheers Graham
 
Old 05-19-2009, 01:40 PM   #17
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one question and i hope i'm not closing the gate after the horse has bolted.... in cmos i had look at boot order and under bott from usb this is the three options it gives me usb-fdd usb-harddrive usb-cdrom does that mean this deep sea anchor of a pc can't boot from a usb flash drive? the pc is only 1 year old.

one other question... are zip files handled as an iso file in linux or just the same as windy's?

pardon my lack knowledge. cheers Graham
 
Old 05-19-2009, 01:45 PM   #18
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normally it can boot from usb
Quote:
are zip files handled as an iso file in linux or just the same as windy's?
zip files are compressed files.
what do you mean by
handled as an iso file in linux ?
you use unzip to unzip them.
 
Old 05-19-2009, 01:55 PM   #19
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so zip files are zip files yep nothing different. sorry i went off on a tangent there. called lack of sleep , and having teenagers for kids. they keep me on my toes. one of the charming lovely monsters told me i can boot from a zip file. Don't worry i only cut there allowance off for a week. yes i'm a mean dad.lol
 
Old 05-19-2009, 02:43 PM   #20
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yayyyyy finally up and running . i'm actually running on it now as i type this. Linus 72 your last upload and instructions where perfect for me . I can see from the instructions in all the posts how to modify and change how i use and install this OS on usb or hdd and how to install new apps if needed . So a very special thanks to you Linus72 and also thankyou for your time support and suggestions to repo and rweaver as well.

damn this little os is quick .
 
Old 05-19-2009, 03:49 PM   #21
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Repo and the others really know their stuff grahamdcp; Debian, and the others would be great for HD install-Tinycore really doesn't "install" per se-just kinda runs like a livecd but better.
Sorry not all my stuff is "together"; I'm just learning Linux too and the permissions thing still pisses me off-I AM ROOT! damn it!
I like TC 'cause you just add what you want, and if you don't want anything, just use the boot option "base norestore" instead of "restore=sda1 tce=sda1 waitusb=10".
I did again run into the error thing; it's because, as with DSL, TC sees the 1st usb partition as read-only and any other partition as read-write; it must be in the code or something.
TC does run fast off USB huh?!
I like it alot.
 
Old 05-19-2009, 08:31 PM   #22
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OK- I think I fixed Tinycore so you can have extensions etc on an unpartitioned USB. I made a folder named "backups" and put the tce extensions and the "mydata.gz" in this folder.
I then made the permissions for everything, kernel/initrd/backup folder etc read-write for anyone/everyone.
It seems to work good now.

here's the new read me and the new download is here( http://multidistro.com/downloads/off...icialusbs.html )

PHP Code:
42MB Pre-installed FirefoxNanoBeaver
Gimp2LeafpadRox-FilerBash
Conkyncurses-utilsmenu-tool,
tce-uninstall, and depends.

All work done in Ubuntu-8.04 either 
installed 
or LiveCD

Ingredients
-
Tinycore-1.4.2-USB.tar.gz
syslinux 
(avail thru Ubuntu 
synaptic pkg manager
)

Instructions:(no need 
to partition USB
!)

Step 1In Ubuntu-after downloading 
and extracting Tinycore-1.4.2-USB.tar.gz
go into folder and right-click "TC-USB" 
folderchoose propertiesthen permissions.
Make sure all 3 boxes are 
create
/delete/read-write for anyone 
BEFORE placing on USB
.

Step 2Cut&paste/move THE CONTENTS 
of TC
-USB folder to your mounted 
FAT32 USB 256MB 
or bigger.

Step 3) If not already known
determine USB name designation 
by opening a terminal 
and entering
"mount" and/or as root "fdisk -l"
either of which should tell you it's 
name (sdf/sde/sdb.etc), of which the 1st(or only)
partition would be sde1/sdf1/sdb1,etc. 

Step 4) If not already, 
set the boot flag active(bootable) 
with fdisk or cfdisk.

fdisk- as root, "fdisk /dev/sdx" where 
"x" is your usb, type "m" for help at fdisk prompt.
Choose "a", (toggle bootable flag), 
then "w". close terminal.

cfdisk- as root. "cfdisk /dev/sdx"; 
hit enter on [Bootable], then [Write], 
then [Quit], close terminal.

Step 5) Install syslinux to usb; 
Now that you know the usb'
s name
installing syslinux is easy-
"syslinux -s /dev/sdxx"where "xx" 
is usbNot HDexample's sdf1/sde1/sdb1 etc

Step 6) Make sure your PC/laptop is 
set to boot from usb and reboot into 
Tinycore-1.4.2-USB!

Notes-If you wanna uninstall any or all 
tce extensions, open a root x-shell/terminal 
from the Tinycore menu,
type in "tce-uninstall", 
wait while it looks for apps, 
then follow the prompts.
The menu-tool allows you to add 
stuff to the menu-follow the prompts. 
Also, at "boot:" prompt, just hit enter to get the menu

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