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Old 12-05-2004, 10:48 PM   #1
linuxnoobhelp
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LILO or GRUB


According to what I know right now is that the GRUB bootloader is a thing at startup to choose what OS you want to start but what is LILO? Is it only for one OS? What's LILO look like at startup? Is there a way to turn on my computer and boot right into SuSE 9.1 without having to press all these keys etc?

I plan on having SuSE 9.1 Personal running by its self on this computer...

HP Pavilion 6638 specs
Processor: Celeron 433mhz
Memory: 63mb (put a 128mb stick in and now get 211mb)
Current OS: Windows 98SE (delete that partion and make 1 Linux partion and a swap)
HD size: 14.(somthin)GB (Linux will be 13gb and swap will be 1gb)
Ports: Keyboard,mouse,printer,serial,monitor,mic,gameport,line in,lineout,2x USB 1.0
Cards: Linksys 10/100 network card (can't find drivers) (replace it with a generic card?)
Drives: 48x CD-ROM drive, 14GB HD, 1.44mb floppy (all IDE)

Sound like good computer for SuSE 9.1 Personal ?
What is LILO?

-col
 
Old 12-05-2004, 11:09 PM   #2
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LILO and GRUB are both boot loaders. LILO has been around longer.

They both will boot multiple OS's.

LILO will take BMP's pictures so it varies in appearence. Default text is fairly plain.

You should have a "timeout=?????" in lilo.conf or grub.conf set it to a lower number and it will jump to defualt quicker. note:after editing lilo.conf run /sbin/lilo to update.
 
Old 12-05-2004, 11:32 PM   #3
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Is there a easyer way of doing this? What program should I open this in? Whaer is this file? Can you give me a sample on what the code looked like before and after?

So if I inserted this "timeout=?????" and got rid of the ????? with 00001 or 00000. Can I do 00000 or will it mess everything up? So if I set it to 00000 it would go to ed right away? Can I put more zeros in it to make it go faster or what? Should I just do it with 5 numbers?

I think I'm going to go with GRUB because I like more graphical stuff than text.

How do I do this that you told me? "note:after editing lilo.conf run /sbin/lilo to update."
Whould I save changes to my new modified grub.conf and go into the run command window and type in "/sbin/grub" (without quotes) or whould I do that in koncel?
 
Old 12-06-2004, 06:45 AM   #4
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I think Suse lets you edit bootloader in Yast...not 100% sure though. Any text editor would work(kedit,gedit,nano,vi.....). You will find the files in /etc. timeout should just read "timeout=20" And after editing Grub you don't run /sbin/grub only LILO. Grub picks up the changes on reboot.

Here is my lilo.conf:

# LILO configuration file
# generated by 'liloconfig'
#
# Start LILO global section
append="hdc=ide-scsi"
boot = /dev/hda
#message = /boot/boot_message.txt
install=/boot/boot-bmp.b # means you will use grafical version
bitmap=/boot/handy_128.bmp # background path
bmp-colors=38,68,53,112,38,25 # text color
bmp-table=114p,347p,2,7 # label position on the screen p=pixel
bmp-timer=470p,336p,25,0,11 # timer position on the screen p=pixel

prompt
timeout = 200
# Override dangerous defaults that rewrite the partition table:
change-rules
reset
# VESA framebuffer console @ 1024x768x256
vga = 773
# Normal VGA console
# vga = normal
# VESA framebuffer console @ 1024x768x64k
# vga=791
# VESA framebuffer console @ 1024x768x32k
# vga=790
# VESA framebuffer console @ 1024x768x256
# vga=773
# VESA framebuffer console @ 800x600x64k
# vga=788
# VESA framebuffer console @ 800x600x32k
# vga=787
# VESA framebuffer console @ 800x600x256
# vga=771
# VESA framebuffer console @ 640x480x64k
# vga=785
# VESA framebuffer console @ 640x480x32k
# vga=784
# VESA framebuffer console @ 640x480x256
# vga=769
# End LILO global section
# Linux New 2.4.28 Boot
image = /boot/vmlinuz
root = /dev/hda2
label = Slack_2.4.28
read-only
# Windows bootable partition config begins
other = /dev/hda1
label = Windows
table = /dev/hda
# Windows bootable partition config ends
# Linux bootable partition config begins
image = /boot/vmlinuz.old
root = /dev/hda2
label = Slack_old
read-only
# Linux bootable partition config ends


Not using Grub so can't help you with an example there but do a search in these forms I am sure you will find one.

Last edited by kak; 12-06-2004 at 06:48 AM.
 
Old 12-06-2004, 08:01 AM   #5
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When I write in this : timeout=20 Would it pick the default OS right away?
Do you have any Ideas on where this would go in the grub.conf? Do I have to put any signs like $ or anything like that at the begining of Timeout=20? So when I look in the /etc. directory the grub.conf file would be in there ok.

THANKS

Anyone using GRUB and show me a sample of the before and after?

-col
 
Old 12-06-2004, 10:47 PM   #6
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Here is link to a good How To:

http://www.desktop-linux.net/grub.htm

Should be of some help.
 
Old 12-07-2004, 01:01 AM   #7
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I believe that if you set the timeout to 0 it'll pick the default right away, but make sure you aren't defaulting into windows without a boot disk
 
  


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