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Old 12-13-2003, 06:05 PM   #1
TheOneAndOnlySM
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kernel 2.6.0-test11 so far so good!


the latest beta kernel has worked perfectly for me so far, any kinks that i have had have been fixed very easily (these included the no longer necessary ide-scsi emulation, sound, nvidia driver install, and a few other small ones)

i love the integration of alsa, works very well
the kernel menu design is intelligently designed, and the removal of needing to perform certain commands is nice (such as make dep and such)
definitely cleaner and faster startup

***one question i have is that when i run gkrellm, i notice that the cpu monitor is continually reporting cpu usage whereas in the 2.4 kernel in the same evnironment did not
i am not sure if this means that the 2.6 kernel is constantly doing something unnecessary or if it is just better at reporting cpu usage (i am thinking the latter because my cpu speed monitor also changes between 1493 and 1495, whereas in the 2.4 kernel it stays at constant 1494)
am i correct in assuming this?
 
Old 12-16-2003, 05:40 AM   #2
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ide-scsi is broken, and the 2.6 kernel exposes this, I was trying to figure out for ages why I could no longer use my ATAPI DVD drive without it failing, as I used to use ide-scsi to mount it as a SCSI dev. So I've just gotta get it sorted to work with the ide-cd module instead and I'll be good (I've been lazy, just using my SCSI CDRW for everything lately )

This is not a problem with the kernel though. 2.6.0-test11 is alot of goodness

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Old 12-16-2003, 08:54 AM   #3
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hasn't ide-scsi been removed from the new 2.6/2.5.x kernels?

isn't that a thing of the past, as the new kernels have native support for ATAPI cd-burning?

See "Lovechild"'s post toward the bottom of this link: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.p...el+2+6+2+5+2+4

quote: "ide-scsi went bye bye - meaning pure ATAPI burning, no more SCSI emulation shit, much faster. "
 
Old 12-16-2003, 09:26 AM   #4
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ide-scsi has not been removed... it has been depricated and will remain that way for a loooong time

The kernel was patched to allow cdrecord to identify ATAPI devices. But ide-sci is not just for cd burning and so Linus has patched ide-scsi in 2.6 and it has been fixed for some dudes appaerntly... I'm not one of them though, unless the patch isn't included in test11, I'm not sure when the patch came out.

Lovechild usually seems to know what he is on about, and I'm sure he didn't mean that ide-scsi has been removed from the kernel. That would break loads of people stuff, and I'm sure our noble kernel devs wont do that to us


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Old 12-16-2003, 04:52 PM   #5
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just skimming this post, didn't think anyone else would reply... (i began to wonder if i was the only one to actually successfully compile and run test11...)

but anyway, fixing the ide-scsi stuff is pretty easy, the major stumbling point was the fact that my lilo.conf said ***append hdc=ide-scsi** this is to be alterred, immediately****

change that line (also in grub) to hdc=ide-cd

after that, make sure /dev/cdrom is a symbolic link to your cd-rom(rw) device, which in my case was /dev/hdc
just do su, rm /dev/cdrom, ln -s /dev/hdc /dev/cdrom


also, another thing i did was to stop my scripts from trying to load the ide-scsi module on startup (in slackware, i had to comment out a line in /etc/rc.d/rc.modules)


after that, everything worked well, as long as you do the above AnD sEt Correct permissions to /dev/cdrom and /dev/hdc (another stumbling block i had)

***note: if not already mentioned, /dev/hdc is my location for my cd drive, it will probably be different on other machines, check dmesg to see what your device is.
 
Old 12-18-2003, 06:10 PM   #6
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Yeah, sorted it out now, cheers for the tips

I've been juggling server repair time and KDE 3.2 beta build time with pub time, but I'm free toight (just a meal at the local pizza joint) so I've actually fixed everything and I'm now playing with KDE.

BTW the 2.6.0 is now in the gentoo portage tree if anyone cares...
 
Old 12-24-2003, 12:39 AM   #7
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Re: kernel 2.6.0-test11 so far so good!

Quote:
Originally posted by TheOneAndOnlySM

***one question i have is that when i run gkrellm, i notice that the cpu monitor is continually reporting cpu usage whereas in the 2.4 kernel in the same evnironment did not
i am not sure if this means that the 2.6 kernel is constantly doing something unnecessary or if it is just better at reporting cpu usage (i am thinking the latter because my cpu speed monitor also changes between 1493 and 1495, whereas in the 2.4 kernel it stays at constant 1494)
am i correct in assuming this?
did you ever find out if this is just more accuracy or something unnecessary because i am getting it in 2.6.0 stable?
 
Old 12-24-2003, 03:13 AM   #8
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The 2.6 kernel polls 1000 times a second compared to the 2.4 kernels 100 times per second. this is probably the cause of the slight discrepency.
 
Old 12-24-2003, 05:02 AM   #9
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Hi all,

I have linux 7.1 installed with ipchains, apache and squid installed. I want to install the latest kernal 2.6 on this. plz guide me how to upgrade, to that nothing stops working with this upgarde.

thanks in advance

tanmay
 
Old 12-24-2003, 06:50 AM   #10
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You might run into trouble installing a new kernel... Thats when you post questions here

Perhaps you want to wait until your some rpms become available for your distro. Or even wait until they distibute a new version based on the new kernel.

which distro are you using? why do you want to change the kernel?
 
Old 01-18-2004, 12:31 PM   #11
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CDROM

Quote:
Originally posted by TheOneAndOnlySM
just skimming this post, didn't think anyone else would reply... (i began to wonder if i was the only one to actually successfully compile and run test11...)

but anyway, fixing the ide-scsi stuff is pretty easy, the major stumbling point was the fact that my lilo.conf said ***append hdc=ide-scsi** this is to be alterred, immediately****

change that line (also in grub) to hdc=ide-cd

after that, make sure /dev/cdrom is a symbolic link to your cd-rom(rw) device, which in my case was /dev/hdc
just do su, rm /dev/cdrom, ln -s /dev/hdc /dev/cdrom


also, another thing i did was to stop my scripts from trying to load the ide-scsi module on startup (in slackware, i had to comment out a line in /etc/rc.d/rc.modules)


after that, everything worked well, as long as you do the above AnD sEt Correct permissions to /dev/cdrom and /dev/hdc (another stumbling block i had)

***note: if not already mentioned, /dev/hdc is my location for my cd drive, it will probably be different on other machines, check dmesg to see what your device is.
Your CDROM help fixed my problem, thanks a million! Didn't realize it was so easy...

Paul
 
  


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