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zQUEz 11-17-2012 10:02 AM

is systemctl here to stay?
my personal laptop has been running Fedora 17, and I am mostly happy with it. But I am wondering if systemctl is here to stay?
What do others think?
Does anyone else think RHEL will roll it into their server builds in the next release?

Personally, I feel the command-line structure is a step back from the simple `chkconfig` and I don't think is intuitive at all. At first I thought it was just growing pains having to learn something new ..... but after many months I still have to look up the man pages to do simple list items ... I feel it's a PIA.

smallpond 11-17-2012 04:35 PM

systemctl is at least the 4th way of starting up services:
  • rc.local,, etc - everything started by scripts
  • /etc/inittab - allowed starting different things in different runlevels
  • /etc/init.d and chkconfig - makes it easier to specify enable and disable
  • /etc/init and systemctl - allows dependencies for starting and stopping

so here to stay is relative, it seems to be a frequently changed feature.

It isn't in RHEL 6 yet, but I would be surprised if it doesn't show up eventually.
It solves some problems for order of startup that chkconfig can't.

zQUEz 11-18-2012 06:20 AM

I guess my impression is that chkconfig is being phased out. Oh well, I am sure once I start having to use it at work (RHEL7?) the syntax will sink in.

TobiSGD 11-18-2012 06:55 AM

chkconfig is phased out. It is not really systemd compatible (systemd is the new init system of Fedora) and therefore systemctl is the new tool of choice.

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