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Robert_q27 09-14-2002 04:45 PM

Installing RH Linux remotely
 
I went and got a dedicated server from Rackshack.net. The server I got had rh7.2 installed with ensim:mad: ensim is a web based gui for performing some basic operations. I just dont like it because it has so many dependencies so you cant change things without messing it up.

I want to do a clean install of rh but I dont have physical access to the machine all I have is terminal access and I dont know if you can reinstall an os from a terminal. I am only recently aquainted with linux its been about 10 days or so. If anyone knows how to do this I would greatly appreciate any advice. I already asked rackshack if they would do a clean install for a nominal fee but they wanted me to order an entirely new server.

So far its looking like im going to have to turn one of my machines into a server, which is both good and bad.



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DavidPhillips 09-14-2002 07:16 PM

You don't really need to reinstall, just remove the stuff you don't want. Even if it means uninstalling a lot more than you think you want to. Then you can just install what you need from sources. People butcher up redhat all the time, and end up with something totally different.

I would give the up2date a try and see if you can controll the package uninstall / reinstall that way. If your wanting to go to source tarballs then just get in there and start building.

The moment of truth will be when / if you upgrade the kernel, because you will need to reboot to do that.

I would also say that if you just want to start from scratch and have a partition you can free up. You could build it on the free partition and just use chroot to get on it until you have it ready. then change lilo and go for it.


If your interested in that, look at LFS. That's the best way to do it in my opinion.

Robert_q27 09-14-2002 10:13 PM

Thanks
 
That sounds like a pretty good idea, but probably a little complex for a windoze user like me. I tryed using up2date but the systems is missing som pop module or something. I think I am going to just take the the loss on my investment at racksuck.net. I am going to build my own machine and buy rh pro with the phone based install support. The fastest internet connection I can get in my area is 650kbs approx, I can just add lines as need. If you know of any special multiplexing software or hardware that would be useful Id like to hear.

Thanks :cool:




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DavidPhillips 09-14-2002 10:33 PM

I was checking into it, I have cable 1.5 Mb down, 128 kb up

They said by adding another ip for $6.95 a month that the two ip's would share the bandwidth ( no point in doing that ). The other alternative is another modem installation for $40 a month.

I have decided to wait for something better to come along before trying multiple gateways

Robert_q27 09-15-2002 01:53 PM

Thanks for all your help
 
I am going to go and figure out how to setup my system I have been looking at raid cards and am going to see if I can mirror another system. Id like to use striping so I would be using the resources on both my systems rather than just having the other system just as backup. Well I will just have to see how this is all going to work. I dont know if I will be able to stay behind my router or not, it has a provision for static ip's but I dont know if it will handle a lot of traffic or not it says its a 10/100 but im looking through the manual to see if its etherfast or not. Ive been looking at switches but im not sure if thats what I will need or not. I am currently seleting between a 2 port kvm switch and a 4 port switch from outpost.com. In the last couple of weeks my geek speek and techno jargon has increased substantially.


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DavidPhillips 09-15-2002 07:23 PM

The problem I see with two systems is that it is slow to transfer data over a network compared to the standard disk controller

Raid helps a lot, I use software raid and have had good luck with it. If the drives are on different controllers then it should be about as fast as it's going to get. I get about 37 MB with each drive and with two drives in a mirror raid I get around 67 MB on the array.

If you have more drives you could make it even faster, but give up some dependability.

Network is way to slow at the moment unless you have some really high speed network, which I think is available but would cost more than it's really worth.

DavidPhillips 09-15-2002 07:27 PM

it also takes a quick machine to get the speed. I have a 2G P4 512 with .5 GB ram that gets that kind of speed, others I have won't come close to that.

Robert_q27 09-16-2002 11:32 AM

I think I fried the Motherboard and the Fatherboard to
 
I love cdw's commercials.:p



I just got an isdn line with 650kbs down 256 up I wanted more up but it got pricie. I already have cable access it is full duplex 256 up and 256 down I was wondering if I might be able to gang them together via a switch.

You seem very knowledgeable in this sort of stuff and well Im not and I wondered if you would be interested in joining my venture into the uknown. If your interested or just would like to know exactly what my venture is you can instant message me.



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DavidPhillips 09-16-2002 02:10 PM

I don't think multilink ppp over ethernet is possible.

However you can do certain things with routing, say for instance you could direct some traffic through one of the interfaces and some through the other.

I don't see a way to get a dual connection to one host on the internet unless there is some server that you can hire on the internet that will route both of your ip addresses to one ip and load balance the traffic for you.

Robert_q27 09-17-2002 04:26 PM

I see what you are saying
 
I think I understand.

I was planning on using zoneedit.com's DNS services they say they do load balancing but I dont know how there load balancing will work

ie

domain.com ns1.

if request time is greater than x
go to

domain.com ns2

I will have the two servers which I plan to mirror and stripe connected seperately to the internet.

ie

server1 ISDN

server2 DSL


There might be a way to also redirect a request using the apache.conf file I dont remember the name of the file, only the conf part :rolleyes: .


This sounds feasable but will only know once my hardware and sofware arrives and I try to implement it.


:Pengy:



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DavidPhillips 09-17-2002 07:26 PM

yea, that sounds great.

Hopefully Zoneedit will work fine.

Apache will listen on both interfaces so that's not a problem.

mikeshn 09-17-2002 07:48 PM

Re: Installing RH Linux remotely
 
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Robert_q27
[B]I went and got a dedicated server from Rackshack.net. The server I got had rh7.2 installed with ensim:mad: ensim is a web based gui for performing some basic operations. I just dont like it because it has so many dependencies so you cant change things without messing it up.

I want to do a clean install of rh but I dont have physical access to the machine all I have is terminal access and I dont know if you can reinstall an os from a terminal. I am only recently aquainted with linux its been about 10 days or so. If anyone knows how to do this I would greatly appreciate any advice. I already asked rackshack if they would do a clean install for a nominal fee but they wanted me to order an entirely new server.

So far its looking like im going to have to turn one of my machines into a server, which is both good and bad.



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Don't use Ensim!!.. Try www.psoft.net H-Sphere control panel .. Works much better with Linux/FreeBSD environment. They also provide free remote support to servers.





Robert_q27 09-17-2002 08:06 PM

Ensim
 
I like that psoft product and the site creator as well. I dont like the per user fee though.

I already got Cpanel from cpanel.net.

I like it, its simple and I should be able to skin the interface fairly easily.


I learned my lesson

Ensim :tisk:



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mikeshn 09-17-2002 08:38 PM

Re: Ensim
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Robert_q27
I like that psoft product and the site creator as well. I dont like the per user fee though.

I already got Cpanel from cpanel.net.

I like it, its simple and I should be able to skin the interface fairly easily.


I learned my lesson

Ensim :tisk:



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Robert
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I know Cpanel and Hsphere .. H-Sphere is much cheaper thatn CPANEL .. That's for sure ..

chilibowl 09-17-2002 10:38 PM

My ISp (will it do LINUX!?!?!)
 
:o Hello you Linux Freqs Do any of you out there happen to be connected to a ISP called LOCALNET(my only one) and if you do what are the tricks to get on it its band width wagon. Iam justa dial-up Peon who is writing this on my WinDoZe Box and wanna go with my Home brew Linux Box. I realize that WinModems are Negatory , and you got to know what the Hell you are typing in when you go to the Esoteric KPPP box under KDE. thank you All!!!!!


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