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Install A Newer Version of the Kernel
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I read about the newest stable kernel 3.13 and the fixes for AMD and Radeon. http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag...tem&px=MTU2NDE http://news.softpedia.com/news/AMD-C...t-423025.shtml Sometimes with hardware and performace issue's installing a newer version is the answer but I don't know what version of the kernel is the right one for what I have going on. This distro (Voyager) that I would like to install a new kernel is just for testing and learning so if it crashes I have my Fedora machine. -At start up it doesn't recognize the keyboard and I have to reboot. Sometimes the keyboard is recognized on the second boot but the wireless mouse is not. -Generally the screensaver pictures cycle but they stopped and now sometimes they work and other times just a plain blue screen. -On certain websites with lot's of graphics and HD pictures the page will lag and the picture will show as a window with a boarder the screen will flash and than the picture eventually appears. I have the AMD driver installed (13)but it is not the most current (14)Beta- Code:
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└─> uname -rHow do I know what kernel would suit the performace issues & etc? Do headers have to be installed with each new installation of the kernel? Should Grub be updated as well upon installing a newer kernel? |
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How exactly are you planning to do this? Presumably it is not yet packaged for your distro. I'm not familiar with the distro you are using, but give the version number "12.04" I assume it is derived from Ubuntu. If so I would suggest using make-kpkg from the kernel-package package. Evo2. |
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Thank you for a quick reply.
I have linux-headers-3.13.3-0 and the generic kernel 3.13.3-0 amd64.deb Just use dpkg to install or go get the tar ball from The Linux Kernel Archives? Not sure what the preferred method is-:- |
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linux-3.13.5.tar.xzhttp://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa...3.13.3-trusty/ This distro is Xubuntu and Ubuntu based and a large portion of the pkg's that make up this distribution are .deb files. No, I'm not sure if these 2 kernels that I downloaded are ok for this distro. How do I find out? |
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the kernel from the ppa seems to be for "trusty" which according to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ubuntu_releases is ubuntu 14.04, where as you are using 12.04... so I'm not sure, but I know I wouldn't use it. Better to find a backport for 12.04, or compile from source yourself. Please note that you seem to be a bit confused about installing from source and installing packages. Evo2. |
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I trust your wisdom evo. I'll look for a backport that's suitable for 12.04. I am not the best at compilation from source (tarball)- I can do it if I have to but not without help. It's hard for me because I don't always know when compilation is complete and when it's time to move on to "make" and "make install" Installing packages is easy for me. Installing from source is not my favorite thing. This area is where I need to increase my skill and learn more. |
It doesn't look like I will be able to install kernel 3.13--
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+s...x/+bug/1270215 https://lists.launchpad.net/kernel-p.../msg43846.html |
In your situation (getting better support for your videocard) installing a newer kernel will not help much, since you are using the proprietary drivers anyways. You may get better performance in some games with kernels >3.12 due to a solved bug with power management, but that is all what you can expect.
This would be different if you would use the free radeon driver, in that case 3.13 will give you huge improvements, but only if you also install the latest Mesa (preferably 10.1RC), libdrm, LLVM and xf86-video-ati (which will in turn also need GLAMOR in the newest version). It would be much easier for you to just use a newer version of your distribution, if possible, or switch to a different distribution which has these things by default. |
I have decided to go ahead and switch to another distribution.
I have been looking a Mangeia and started reading the documentation associated with Slackware. I plan to decide on one of these distro's once I have more knowledge & understanding. Thanks TobiSGD!-:) |
Greetz
I'd just like to mention that way back, nearly 15 years ago, I tried Slackware because the people I respected most on IRC Linux channels did and one told me when I asked why - "I dunno....stuff just compiles right on it" :) He was right even if a little functional in the description of the advantages of Vanilla. It's still true and I still vastly prefer Slackware even though the only software I still regularly compile from source is The Kernel. It's not that hard. It tells you when it's done with any given step and even tells you what is the next step, whether you have errors that need attention or everything you did worked perfectly. Errors are rare when you compile a kernel on a running system using "make oldconfig" which makes sure any options on your running kernel are included on your new build. As long as you keep the old kernel as a backup still in your bootloader as an option, really, very little can go wrong, and you learn a lot. |
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I'm thinking I will learn more with Slackware because I can invest the time to look up what I don't understand. evo2, rokytnji, & TobiSGD Thank you all for teaching me about the kernel and other practices I hadn't knowledge of. |
You can build modules against kernel sources (no headers needed).
You can use symlinks pointing to your kernel image, since GRUB can read the filesystem (unlike LiLo) it will happily follow the symlink and load the kernel. So no, if using symlinks you do not need to update GRUB. |
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