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Old 09-25-2022, 02:28 AM   #31
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I have EndeavourOS which is Arch based and it works well for me. It has a large community and their forum has a lot of traffic with plenty of help if issues arise. https://distrowatch.com/table.php?di...tion=endeavour
I also have SparkyLinux which is Debian based multi booted with EndeavourOS and it works equally as well. https://distrowatch.com/table.php?di...tion=endeavour

I "played" with Manjaro for a time but was not happy with it. YMMV.
I was checking out EndeavourOS in a vm and it is quite nice. Arch is just no stable enough - especially if you don't run update all the time.
I looked at Sparky just yesterday as someone mentioned it already but I don't think it's for me.

Does anyone know openSUSE MicroOS and has some experience with it?
 
Old 09-25-2022, 03:18 AM   #32
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For some reason openSUSE Tumbleweed alredy got Gnome 43 although on the Gnome website they list Fedora as first and mention that Fedora get the new 43 pretty soon while the description for openSUSE just says it is running Gnome 42.

Just a update for me and everyone else who cares about the latest Gnome
 
Old 09-26-2022, 07:09 AM   #33
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I checked Distrowatch many times but this site just does not seem that reliable. There are request for Distros going back to 2019. The site still looks like from 1995, you never know if it is up to date or not and it is just confusing sometimes. But I will try what you said. I only searched for Gnome so far.
DistroWatch is far from perfect, but it's still very useful.

It objectively doesn't look like a site from 1995, because tables didn't arrive in HTML until 1996. :P

It doesn't even look the same as it did when it launched in 2001 - took about three years for it to grow into the look it has had for the past eighteen years - and whilst again there's things I'd personally tweak, I do like that it has maintained the same character over that time.


As for the other points, they are covered in the FAQ:
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Originally Posted by https://distrowatch.com/dwres.php?resource=faq#accurate
Is the information on your site accurate?

It is our objective to provide correct and accurate information. At the same time, we cannot guarantee that every number and every dot is in the correct position, however hard we try. As you can imagine, it is quite tedious to collect all the information and it takes a lot effort and time to wade through busy FTP servers and extract the facts from sub-directories of ISO images. Many errors were fixed soon after the site was first made public (Slackware users were the most active in correcting them) and most of the information should be correct. Do not be shy to point out any errors you find; just send us an e-mail and we will fix them immediately.
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Why is distro X still on the waiting list and not in your database?

We receive a lot of new distribution submissions, usually several a month and it takes time to properly evaluate new projects. We also find that new distributions are often discontinued within their first year. For these reasons, we usually leave distributions on our waiting list for approximately one year before exploring them.

Once a project has had time to mature, we will look it over and decide whether it meets some basic criteria. We look for projects that (ideally) offer users documentation, support (through forums or mailing lists) and have a particular goal or mission. Projects meeting these goals and that we can get working will usually be imported into our database and receive news/release coverage.

There are some exceptions. Projects that violate the trademark or copyright of an existing project or that appear to be discontinued will not be added to our database. We usually will not add a project that has not yet published a stable release (ie is still in the alpha/beta development stage). We also will not add projects we cannot get working ourselves or which require special software or a specific operating system to install. For more information, please see our Submit New Distribution page.

To get a feel of which projects our readers think should be added to the database first, we allow our readers to vote on which projects on the waiting list they like best. Projects with the most votes will usually be evaluated and, if they meet our requirements, be added to our database for full coverage.

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Old 09-26-2022, 12:15 PM   #34
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Yeah I probably need to compromise. I never used a rolling release and just know it from hearing. And the stability does not seem that great. Plus if you don't update in a while the system probably breaks with the next update. Correct me if this is not true.
This is not innately true. It CAN happen, and generally with rolling release that have NO additional testing or validation between updates and the users. This is why I prefer Manjaro over ARCH, and SPARKY over DEBIAN SID. That extra team, extra sets of eyes, and estra testing makes if far less likely to roll wrong on you.
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I checked Distrowatch many times but this site just does not seem that reliable.
I think you do not mean reliable, because what you describe has nothing to do with reliability and everything to do with accuracy. If you read the site description of what they are really trying to report and the methods used it makes sense. The measurements are likely to be accurate, but they may not be measuring what you assume they are.
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There are request for Distros going back to 2019. The site still looks like from 1995, you never know if it is up to date or not and it is just confusing sometimes. But I will try what you said. I only searched for Gnome so far.
A solid and unchanging look and feel is the mark of reliability. You can depend on being able to use and navigate it because while it may have changed on the back end the front end has evolved very slowly just so that you CAN count on it.

Someone else has already detailed a bit about the submission standards and how and when they approve a submission for a distribution entry or change. They do not list every project that had ever been, and that is a GOOD thing. I have been involved in a dozen projects, most of them lived for less than 6 months. The ones that actually last and might be useful CAN get into distrowatch, but the ones that die as fast as they were conceived do not and should not. A very few make the cut in all ways except one. That might be documentation, support, or function. (If no one can actually get it to WORK other than the developer, it should not be listed until that is successfully addressed.)

Distrowatch is the place that lists all of the distributions that are, or have been, successful. Some of those are no longer active, and they have filters for that in the search function so that you can choose to include or exclude inactive distributions from the list.

As an example: I find SOME of the inactive ones PERFECT for certain older hardware platforms that are not well supported by current active distributions. Most of the time I am looking for only active entries with certain features or packages. There is NO OTHER SITE where I can find that information and sort through it to find what I want. Distrowatch is invaluable for me.
Clearly, other people find it invaluable as well, although we do not all use it the same way or look for the same things.

The point of the original suggestion is this: 99% of the time there is no better place to start your search for exactly which distribution you need. Period.

It has been VERY reliable: although there have been short outages due to failures, network issues, or maintenance they have been pretty short and quite rare. You can pretty much count on the site to be there, to have data that might help you, and have links to follow to learn more about the distributions you find interesting.

I hope it, and the comments here, help you.
 
Old 10-22-2023, 11:15 AM   #35
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I do not use Gnome myself. However there is a Community spin of OpenMandriva Lx using Gnome desktop here. You can find the package list installed on the iso in the iso_build.log. One may learn more about OpenMandriva on our forum and our wiki. Additionally one may talk to the person that creates the OMLx Gnome isos at OpenMandriva Chat, or talk to the developer/contributor group there. I am sure the Gnome package maintainer and iso creator angry-beer would like to hear the input of folks that try his isos.

Edit: Thought I should also post the link to OpenMandriva landing page for any who may be interested.

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