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Old 10-26-2014, 11:34 AM   #1
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Exclamation I need a small Linux Distro but all I have is 2 diskettes.


Hello.I am 50% Windows (RETRO-7)and 50% Linux (retro-now).

I have ran out of Compact Discs and Unetbootin is not working.The only medium I have is 2 floppy diskettes.Text will do but it would be nice to have an ANSI Xserver(anything else that will fit)(Like Dos 7.1 install).Can anyone help me?*


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Old 10-26-2014, 05:00 PM   #2
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Hello.I am 50% Windows (RETRO-7)and 50% Linux (retro-now).

I have ran out of Compact Discs and Unetbootin is not working.The only medium I have is 2 floppy diskettes.Text will do but it would be nice to have an ANSI Xserver(anything else that will fit)(Like Dos 7.1 install).Can anyone help me?*

-Thank You.
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*This is now urgent,as my evaluation copy of WINDOWS POS READY 2009 is about to expire,so I really (REALLY!)need help.

Thank you
Not urgent to anyone but you. LQ members are volunteers that provide their help gratuitously.

You do realize that a modern kernel will not fit on a 1.44MB floppy disk.
The best I can do is;
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tomsrtbt <- Linux on 1 floppy disk Good recovery use
If you have a LAN with Internet access and a spare USB Flash then;
Quote:
Pendrivelinux <- 'Pendrivelinux provides simplified information to make it easy for anyone to install, boot, and run their favorite Gnu/Linux Distribution from a portable flash drive! + Boot and run Linux from a USB flash memory'.
This is a good tutorial that you could use along with the tomsrtbt for Slackware or any distribution that you wish to download the ISO;
Quote:
SlackwareŽ12_Janux_NET_NoBurn_Install <- Good LQ Article
All the above links are from SlackwareŽ-Links. More than Slackware links!
Hope this helps.
Have fun & enjoy!
 
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Old 10-26-2014, 09:17 PM   #3
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Pendrive linux had an error on my flash drive that said "boot error" on startup in the same old primative shell font.it has come to my attention that there is a portal http://www.linuxlinks.com/Distributions/Floppy/ and it has a LOT of links to these old linux distros and one of them, "xwoaf",even has a fully fledged xserver,however,some of these links and mirrors are dead .and all the mirrors on tomsrtbt are dead or are not for floppy diskette. I am still puzzled with the working linux distros.I dont think anyone could really help,its to confusing.
 
Old 10-26-2014, 09:28 PM   #4
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Hi,

Try: http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/system/recovery/

You could use wget/ftp to get one of these;
Hope this helps.
Have fun & enjoy!
 
Old 10-26-2014, 10:02 PM   #5
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are not for floppy diskette.
it wont fit all i have are 1.44MB not 2.88MB
 
Old 10-26-2014, 10:23 PM   #6
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Hi,

You did expand the downloaded archive? The download size is for the complete arc you must expand then use the scripts available to install to a floppy.

Look at tomsrtbt.FAQ which will be available in the 'tomsrtbt-2.0.103' directory that is created when you expand the arc. As I said, modern kernel will not fit, tomsrtbt uses a 2.4 kernel which will be compressed and a minimal config.

If you download tomsrtbt-2.0.103.tar.gz then from the download directory;
Code:
tar -xvzf tomsrtbt-2.0.103.tar.gz
This will create a directory within the download directory as 'SomeDownloadDirectory/tomsrtbt-2.0.103'. Within this directory;
Code:
tomsrtbt-2.0.103# ls -al
total 2056
drwxr-x--- 2 root root     4096 May  4  2002 ./
drwxr-xr-x 4 root root     4096 Oct 26 22:06 ../
-rwxrwxrwx 1  505 users    2833 Apr 20  2002 buildit.s*
-rwxr-xr-x 1  505 users     421 May 12  2001 clone.s*
-rwxr-x--- 1 root root   108296 May  4  2002 fdflush*
-rwxr-x--- 1 root root    83036 May  4  2002 fdformat*
-rwxr-xr-x 1  505 users     538 May 12  2001 install.s*
-rwxr-x--- 1 root root   100640 May  4  2002 license.html*
-rwxr-x--- 1 root root      953 May  4  2002 settings.s*
-rwxr-xr-x 1  505 users   11585 May  4  2002 tomsrtbt.FAQ*
-rw-r----- 1 root root  1763328 May  4  2002 tomsrtbt.raw
-rwxr-xr-x 1  505 users     527 Mar 26  2002 unpack.s*
Looking at install.s;
Code:
#!/bin/sh
. `dirname $0`/settings.s
[ -d /usr/i486-linux-libc5/lib ]&&LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/i486-linux-libc5/lib
if [ ! "$1" ]
 then
  echo
  echo "Don't forget to READ the FAQ."
  echo
  echo "Insert a blank writable 3.5\" floppy diskette then strike ENTER."
  read J
  echo "About to fdformat $FD"
  ./fdformat $FD||FAIL fdformat error
  echo "About to dd floppy image"
fi
dd if=tomsrtbt.raw of=$FD count=$DZ
[ ! "$1" ]||exit
./fdflush $FD
echo "About to verify floppy image"
cmp tomsrtbt.raw $FD||FAIL compare error
echo "Succeeded!"
Look at tomsrtbt.FAQ for some helpful information.
 
Old 10-26-2014, 10:47 PM   #7
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Wait.Sorry If I frustrated you,but,I think I got Pendrivelinux to work.Since you appear to like Slackware,I will get a distro based off of it.Hints



hint 1.Compact
hint 2.lightweight
hint 3.4 letter word
hint 5 4 leaf clover logo

if you havent guessed by now* its Slax linux,I hope it will run on a Pentium 4 1.8 GHZ




*sorry for more frustration
 
Old 10-26-2014, 11:13 PM   #8
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Aaaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnnnnnnddd.Pendrive linux half broke.I am going to look at other options
 
Old 10-27-2014, 09:08 AM   #9
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Hi,

No frustration for me, sorry to hear you are still having problems. You were able to create the tomsrtbt-2.0.103 boot floppy?

Pendrivelinux works most of the time. Which distribution did you use? Salix? If you want Slackware installed on this system then you can use;
usb-and-pxe-installers/. Be sure to look at README_USB.TXT for install instructions;
Quote:
With the release of Slackware 12.0, the era of floppy-boot came to a definite end. The reason is simple - the Linux 2.6 kernel will not fit on a single floppy, even in it's most condensed configuration. In this README, I will show you how to use a bootable USB stick to install Slackware. This method - creating the USB equivalent of a boot/root floppy pair - is easy to use and fast. It requires that your computer is able to boot from USB-HDD.
BTW, you do know Salix does have LiveCD ISO. You did not try to move the LiveCD to USB using pendrivelinux? If you want a regular Salix ISO then look here: http://www.salixos.org/download.html
Hope this helps.
Have fun & enjoy!
 
Old 10-27-2014, 11:09 AM   #10
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Salix?
What is Salix?I used a distribution known as Slax (S-L-A-X,PRONOUNCED Sl-acks)
 
Old 10-27-2014, 11:18 AM   #11
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What is Salix?
Code:
harry[~]$ inxi -zv7
System:    Host: darkstar.example.net Kernel: 3.10.17-smp i686 (32 bit gcc: 4.8.2)
           Desktop: Fluxbox 1.3.5 dm: gdm Distro: Slackware 14.1
Machine:   System: manda (portable) product: Intel powered classmate PC v: Gen 1.5L
           Mobo: N/A model: N/A
           Bios: American Megatrends v: CM94515A.86A.0024.2008.0715.1716 date: 07/15/2008
CPU:       Single core Intel Core N270 (-HT-) cache: 512 KB
           flags: (nx pae sse sse2 sse3 ssse3) bmips: 3191
           clock speeds: min/max: 800/1600 MHz 1: 800 MHz 2: 1600 MHz
Memory:    Using dmidecode: you must be root to run dmidecode
Graphics:  Card: Intel Mobile 945GSE Express Integrated Graphics Controller
           bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:27ae
           Display Server: X.Org 1.14.3 drivers: intel (unloaded: vesa)
           Resolution: 1024x600@53.3hz
           GLX Renderer: Mesa DRI Intel 945GME x86/MMX/SSE2
           GLX Version: 1.4 Mesa 9.1.7 Direct Rendering: Yes
Audio:     Card Intel NM10/ICH7 Family High Definition Audio Controller
           driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:1b.0 chip-ID: 8086:27d8
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k3.10.17-smp
Network:   Card: Realtek RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller
           driver: r8169 v: 2.3LK-NAPI port: ec00
           bus-ID: 01:00.0 chip-ID: 10ec:8136
           IF: eth1 state: down mac: <filter>
           WAN IP: <filter> IF: wlan1 ip: N/A ip-v6: N/A
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 63.6GB (52.1% used)
           ID-1: /dev/sda model: KingSpce_KSD size: 63.6GB serial: 984082600254
           Optical: No optical drives detected.
Partition: ID-1: / size: 15G used: 3.1G (21%) fs: xfs dev: /dev/sda1
           label: N/A uuid: f1514248-82a4-4793-b2e4-2d94b3e953d7
           ID-2: /home size: 44G used: 27G (62%) fs: xfs dev: /dev/sda3
           label: N/A uuid: 97334dd8-0850-42fb-bda2-4b80af118be1
           ID-3: swap-1 size: 1.05GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda2
           label: N/A uuid: cbccfa7b-652e-44cd-b7e1-be88c61f634a
RAID:      System: supported: linear raid0 raid1 raid10 raid6 raid5 raid4 multipath
           No RAID devices: /proc/mdstat, md_mod kernel module present
           Unused Devices: none
Unmounted: No unmounted partitions detected
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 61.0C mobo: N/A
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A
Info:      Processes: 135 Uptime: 1:47 Memory: 295.3/989.8MB
           Init: SysVinit v: 2.88 runlevel: 4 default: 4 Gcc sys: 4.8.2
           Client: Shell (bash 4.2.502 running in xterm) inxi: 2.2.15
http://www.salixos.org/

I've used Slax years ago.

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Old 10-27-2014, 11:25 AM   #12
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Code:
SALIX(1)                    General Commands Manual                   SALIX(1)



SALIX
       This manual page allows you to read the essential minimum to administer
       your Salix Operating System. Please refer to each command's  individual
       manual page for more details.


PACKAGE MANAGEMENT
        spi   Search for, install and update packages and SlackBuilds from the
              repositories. spi is an wrapper around slapt-get  and  slapt-src
              and  is  more  convenient to use, but only offers the most basic
              functionality of both. If you want to use more advanced features
              of these tools, you should use them directly.

        slapt-get
              Search  for,  install and update packages from the repositories.
              Gslapt provides the same functionality with a  graphical  inter‐
              face.

-- MOST: *stdin*                                                    (1,1) 0%            slapt-src
              Search  for,  install  and update SlackBuilds from the reposito‐
              ries.  Sourcery provides the same functionality with a graphical
              interface.

        spkg  Install,   update  and  remove  packages  that  you  have  down‐
              loaded/built locally. This is a faster alternative to the Slack‐
              ware  pkgtools  (installpkg, upgradepkg and removepkg) which are
              also available.


SALIXTOOLS
        clocksetup
              Set the system time and date.
              
        dotnew
              Dotnew is a utility to help with the management of  .new  system
              configuration files.
              
        keyboardsetup
              Select your preferred keymap and keyboard settings.

-- MOST: *stdin*                                                    (23,1) 13%         localesetup
              Set the system-wide localization.
              
        reposetup
              Select your preferred repository mirror.
        
        service
              List, stop or start system services using the command line.
              
        servicesetup
              List,  stop or start system services using a dialog-based inter‐
              face.

        usersetup
              Users and Groups management.

              
       Most of the tools mentioned here have graphical (GTK) counterparts.
              

MODULES
       Modules are pieces of code that can be loaded  and  unloaded  into  the
-- MOST: *stdin*                                                    (45,1) 26%       kernel upon demand. They extend the functionality of the kernel without
       the need to reboot the system.
              

        lsmod List all loaded modules.
        
        modprobe -v module
              Load module.
              
        rmmod -v module
              Unload module.
              
        echo "module_name" >> /etc/modprobe.d/file.conf
              Force the automatic loading of a module.  You can give the  name
              you want to file.conf (ie. atboot.conf)

        echo "blacklist module" >> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
              Prevent loading of a module.
              

WIRED/WIRELESS NETWORK CONNECTION MANAGER
       Wired  and  wireless  network  connection  can be managed with a single
-- MOST: *stdin*                                                    (67,1) 36%        tool, Wicd.  Wicd uses built-in linux wireless-tools, such as  ifconfig
       and  iwconfig  to  get  and configure network info.  Note that wicd and
       wireless must be activated in the startup services  in  order  to  make
       wireless  networks visible on Wicd. If you are using a Desktop Environ‐
       ment, you should normally find a Wicd icon running in your system tray.
       Otherwise you can run one of Wicd's clients:

              
        wicd-gtk --no-tray
              This  command  starts  the  GTK  Wicd client without system tray
              icon.
              
        wicd-curses
              This command starts the ncurses Wicd client. X11 is not needed.
              

       If you don't have wicd installed, you can configure your wired  network
       using  netconfig  (run  it  from a terminal with superuser priviliges).
       netconfig doesn't support wireless connections.


SALIX DEVELOPMENT
-- MOST: *stdin*                                                    (89,1) 50%         Translate
              You can help with translating various componenents of  the  dis‐
              tribution  using.  Visit  the  following  page for more details:
              http://salixos.org/translate.html

        Package Submissions
              You can submit packages for inclusion in the Salix  repositories
              using  our  package submission tracker (but please read the wiki
              about package building rules are submission  guidelines  first).
              You can find a link in the salix main project page.
              
        Bugs/Wishes/...
              You  can  either  use our bugtracker (you can find a link in the
              salix main project page) or the Salix forums.
              

ONLINE HELP
        IRC   Join the #salix channel on irc.freenode.net network.

        Jabber / XMPP
              Join the salix chatroom on the chat.meticul.eu jabber server.

-- MOST: *stdin*                                                    (111,1) 65%
There is more in

Code:
man salix
but I think you get the idea.
 
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Is this your only computer? You can setup a usb bootable thumb drive on any machine that supports the same architecture. I'd say come across a grub cdrom if you can, you can chainload the grub on the stick if your device doesn't support booting from usb. You can dd the iso image of a linux distro to thumb drive (in linux) and it should be bootable. You shouldn't have to deal with 1.44MB floppies these days. Even if you do you could get a bunch more of those disks from a thrift store or goodwill. Recalling when I first started using debian, and the 26 1.44MB floppy disks that it occupied for the complete set. With only the first two disks you had a kernel and basic shell prompt. No X or gui. And the modern kernel is 75MB (like 60+ floppies) just for the source tree.
 
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What is Salix?I used a distribution known as Slax (S-L-A-X,PRONOUNCED Sl-acks)
My bad! Misread your post. I know of Slax, still suggest the install for Slackware if you want a solid stable Gnu/Linux. If you want a small install with a Desktop of choice then look at Kiki's thread for MLED - Microlinux Enterprise Desktop - a full-blown production desktop (KDE or Xfce) set of tag files & scripts to allow a good Slackware install.

Sorry about the misunderstanding.
Hope this helps.
Have fun & enjoy!
 
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Only need one floppy to gpxe a distro down. Can run what you want from memory if you have a modest amount. Distro's like Slitaz or go to Netboot.me for some basic things. A few others like knoppix work pxe/gpxe.

One way to make two floppies boot is a trick on bsd's. Linux can't boot a modern kernel over two disk's.

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