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Old 02-20-2005, 08:53 AM   #1
qwijibow
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i installed linux first.. how to install windows without re-formating ?


Okay.. ive given up on Linux's professional dvd authoring software... i cant get my head round it.
and i dont qute trust the windows emulator enough to use it on such complicated multimedia programs..
i have an automatic dvd authoring porgram for windows bundled with my writer.
so.... i need to install windows.

my partiton table looks like so....

Partiton1: Type = Linux, Filesystem=reiserfs size=60GB mount point = /
Partiton2: Type = Linux Swap, Filesystem=swapFS, size=1GB, mount point = none
Partiton3: Type = Linux, Filesystem=reiserfs, size=7Gb, mount point / home/chris
Partition4: Type = fat32 Filesystem=not yet formatted, size=13GB

however windowsXP detect only the last one correctly, all other as "unknown" which is to be expected.

ANYWAYS....
i boot the windows XP install disk, and select to install windows to partiton4.

Windows then tells me, that in order to install to partiton4, it needs to format partiton1 (my 60Gb, linux root partiton !!!)

why ?? i have no idea !!!

partiton 2 is just swap space, i dont mind formating that.
it also wouldnt kill me to backup partiton3 (my home directory)

but backing up my root partiton will be very very very annoying !!!

first off.. why does winows need to uninstall linux before it can install to a completely seperate partiton ?
and how do i get around this ???

FORKIG microsoft !

the best solution i can think of right now would be to...

//boot knoppix
tar -cp /mnt/hda1 | bzip -c > root.img
//burn root.img to a data dvd
//allow windows to format root partiton
//boot knoppix
//format and mount hda1
// tar -xjp root.img /mnt/hda1

but i dont have much confidence in taring a root directory.

any ideas ???
 
Old 02-20-2005, 09:13 AM   #2
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Why windows needs to do it I have no idea, bad programming?

Perhaps you could fool windows (shouldn't be too hard) into thinking there is only one partition on the system or that your 13GB partition is actually the first. Most modern bootloaders can do this and all though I've never done it myself I'm fairly sure you can get grub/lilo to boot a CD.
 
Old 02-20-2005, 10:14 AM   #3
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I'm fairly sure you can get grub/lilo to boot a CD.
nope, grub will not boot cd's
grubs device map only contains hard disks and floppy disks.

ive never used lilo though..can anyone confirm this before i go switching bootloaders ???

any other idea's anyone ?
 
Old 02-20-2005, 10:31 AM   #4
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I think you can but you need to use smart boot manager as a middle man:
http://www.lrz-muenchen.de/~bernhard/grub-chain-cd.html
 
Old 02-20-2005, 11:06 AM   #5
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windows requires first partition on drive

Dear qwijibow,
Windows likes to install on the first partition of the first hard drive (cylinder 1000 or less). You can get around this requirement with a boot loader like grub or lilo. It would be best (easy) to wipe your hard drive clean (fdisk - to remove all partitions, and then partition C: as 50% of disk, then format with FAT32 file system, use-win98 boot disk) then install winXP. Then install Linux on the other 50% of the drive and use GRUB as boot loader.
The other option that I favor is get a removable hard drive tray and another tray with 10GIG drive and just change trays when you are in the mood to expiment with linux. That saves you winPX for another day.
Luck,
Vince
 
Old 02-20-2005, 12:32 PM   #6
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Well unfortunately MS Windows is not very friendly to its collegue OS-s installed on the same disk. The best way to deal with it is to install Windows on the first available partition (usually hda1) and then mess up with others.
In your case, it is a little to late for that I guess. But I think it could be possible to somehow disable al partitions, before installing Windows, except for the one you want to install it on. I don't know exactly how to do it and whether or not this is possible, but i.e. you can try to set up lilo in a way that it sets the root to the new Windows partition and make the system boot from the CD. Try searching google, hope you ind the answer.
 
Old 02-20-2005, 04:53 PM   #7
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i installed a second har disk.
windows still wanted to format the linux har disk before it woul install to the serate hard disk !!!!

so i had to unplug the linux disk dureing the install.

I used windows for about 5 minutes... then after installing the dvd writing software, discovered it was totally useless (needed to buy a 3rd party plugin for MPEG-2 !!!! (the dvd format !)
 
  


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