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03-18-2003, 04:42 PM
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Registered: Feb 2002
Location: harvard, il
Distribution: Ubuntu 11.4,DD-WRT micro plus ssh,lfs-6.6,Fedora 15,Fedora 16
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amen to that i hate windows, i only use it when i have to, as for 'user friendlyness' linux does take more effort to learn, but once i learned linux i actually had an easier time with setting up a tcp/ip network between two LINUX machines than between two Win98 machines so if you think 'user frienly'=gui than get a mac especially macos x, it's UNIX based soo you could start learning some unix commands then switch to a powerpc distribution of linux and bang, no more complaints about how 'hard' linux is , besides with windows, every time you chage a setting to say, the network, you have to reboot the whole OS, who has time for that? with linux, all you do is make the changes, and restart the program that uses those settings, so in that sense, linux is actually MORE 'user friendly' than Windows and even mac to some extent.
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03-18-2003, 04:43 PM
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Registered: Feb 2002
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nef - you got google where you live?hjsplit is alive and well for linux.It's called lxsplit and can be found on the freebytes website.You want a link to click now - don't you?
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03-18-2003, 05:18 PM
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Originally posted by nef
agree with that acid_kewpie
printer: doesnt really matter since its plugged to another computer but if you have any info on how to share a printer or a folder with winxp (the other computer is my sister and she wont change to linux even if i payed her)
cdwriter: sony (something something), i last reinstalled i havent installed any burning program so i probably
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Mandrake uses CUPS. Follow the CUPS guide to add printing to a windows printer. Very easy. When you select add, it will bring up the type, select windows printer, enter the SMB info (use the manual) and you should be printing away. I think you have to tell Windows to allow outside access to the printer.
Burning: k3b. My son and wife use it, drag and drop, very nice interface. http://k3b.sourceforge.net/
RO
My new favorite place...
Linux native replacements for Windows programs
http://linuxshop.ru/linuxbegin/win-lin-soft-en/
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03-18-2003, 08:23 PM
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Registered: Apr 2002
Location: Arbovale, WV
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The reason I hate Linux is because I am addicted. I think I need help.
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03-18-2003, 08:38 PM
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Registered: Jan 2003
Location: Kansas City, Missouri, USA
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Originally posted by tangle
The reason I hate Linux is because I am addicted. I think I need help.
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You'll know you're addicted to Linux if you take the kids to the zoo and insist on visiting the penguins first....
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03-18-2003, 09:11 PM
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Registered: Feb 2003
Location: Arizona, USA
Distribution: Debian, EndeavourOS, OpenSUSE, KDE Neon
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Originally posted by tangle
The reason I hate Linux is because I am addicted. I think I need help.
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Yeah, I second this. Although I've found I've been using windows more often lately due to Opera 7 being released for windows. But once they release it for linux(Galeon, Mozilla, Konqueror, Opera 6 just don't cut it once you've been spoiled by Opera 7), I doubt I'll see much of windows again for a while. It's cool too, because I actually convinced one of my customers (I do cable television/cable internet) to try out linux today!! I was rather proud of myself for that. Not too often I have success convincing total strangers to try out this "evil, intellectual property threatening" OS, but feels awesome when you do!!
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03-18-2003, 10:33 PM
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Newbie stating reasons...
I haven't been on linux long enough to posses the type of resentment or hate that most here in the linux world have for microsft. I am microsoft certified and have been using the products for years and I think most here seem to miss one of the points behind linux's continued evolvement. It's Microsoft. There's a reason the GUI is changing and the command line concept is going away. Microsoft. I think if you pluck a good decent GUI ontop of any stable OS, especially one derived from UNIX, then you're gonna get a lot of cheers and applause. I would think that that would be expected simply because it is UNIX, or UNIX like. I personally don't see either one of these OS's going away anytime soon. I do however see linux making a strong effort to compensate and "catch up" so to speak by incorporating a lot of the same features that has made microsoft what it is today. hence the constant OS updates, and don't get me started on the patches. Or do most here forget that Microsoft also derived from a command line, or DOS concept. So while I think it's fun to bicker about the pro's and cons of the two OS's, the fact that still remains is that they really are no different from each other.
I've taken it upon myself to learn and use linux mainly because I liked the idea of not having to pay as much for server licenses and that the community is so dedicated to providing free apps and support. I also like the freedom of growth that comes with learning this OS. I think it serves as a gateway to get into dealing with the big guns of UNIX like Solaris & HP. Would I as a businessman rush into the linux craze because of a few biased consumers, I don't think so. Would I recommend it for the average home user over Microsft XP, yes. Simply because of cost and security. Then I'd spend an hour or 2 explaining why they aren't able to use some of their favors apps and programs, and spend another day or 2 teaching them how to install available apps and programs onto their linux box. Do I personally want to sit around torturing myself by having to rebuild kernals and/or chomping at some command prompt, Hell No! That's prehistoric. Do I dislike the fact that I have to put up with some of the options that are available in regards to support and simple functionality. Sitting around waiting for a response from a forum or developer too swamped to reply, or searching for improperly written documentation? Nope, but I've decided to deal with it. Mainly because I feel like I can possibly offer something to the community. Even if it's on a small scale. Do most businesses survive by staying free? Nope. Will linux make changes to stay afloat? Yep. Will most current die hard linux users continue to get pissed and jump from distro to distro after seeing the same GUI related changes get incorporated into all flavors of linux? Yes. So what really is the point of the hate? Linux will continue to be better than Microsoft in some ways, then again it won't. Get what you can out of it in reagrds to either a business solution or an individual solution and move on. All of that garbage about one person being evil or there being some evil empire is rubbish.
Whew!!!...Man did I ramble or what....? gotta get some rest now. Been 3 days trying to get RAID 1 & 5 properly documented and configured on this 7.3 server and I feel I needed to vent.
I say be open and learn it all. That way you have better things to do besides sitting around hating the other person. What's it gonna hurt?
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03-19-2003, 05:42 PM
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Registered: Dec 2002
Location: Mexico
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pyslsk installed!!!!
i tried installing pyogg and pyvorbis and needed libogg which i downloaded from rpmfind.com but couldnt install, but it aint important since these are only to let other people check the lenght and bitrate of my songs
i need to know which nvidia driver i should download
ia32
ia64
amd64
because i think last time i couldnt because i didnt download the right version
sorry crashmeister, its true i hadnt looked for hjsplit but it isnt important for me to have hjsplit if i cant download from djmixes2k, please let me know if you find a way to do so.
also i havent heard anyone talking about the cuefile, does anyone here even uses them???
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03-19-2003, 07:38 PM
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Registered: Mar 2002
Location: Salt Lake City, UT - USA
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What kind of processor do you have? If it's a Pentium, or an AMD up through XP series, it's ia32
Cool
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03-19-2003, 07:56 PM
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I have read through some of the posts, and it seems like a lot of you are annoyed with missing dependencies. Well there's a perfectly easy solution to that. Theres a program called apt-rpm that works just like apt-get for debian., except for RPM distros (Red Hat, Conectiva, SuSE etc) You can also get a GUI tool for it called synaptic We all like GUIs don't we? It works like this. You start it up and it will gather all the packages installed on your system. You can then search for any program you want. It will go through freshmeat to find the package you are looking for. If the package has any dependencies, it will download them automaticly as well. I have to say thats even easier than downloading programs in windows.
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03-20-2003, 01:30 AM
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Registered: Oct 2002
Distribution: Red Hat 7.3, 8.0
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burning cue files
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03-20-2003, 08:49 AM
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Registered: Mar 2003
Location: Essex UK
Distribution: rh 8.0 bsd 5.0 slack 9.0 rc2 crux
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www.arklinux.com, get the best of noth worlds xp like interface ontop of linux
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03-20-2003, 11:12 AM
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Registered: Mar 2003
Location: USA-Los Angeles, California
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One thing that will help everyone is when you buy any hardware insist that it is Linux compatible, even if you only plan to use Windows. Even if it costs you a little more. This will force the market to make drives, etc.for their hardware work on Linux at the same time as Windows.
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03-20-2003, 11:41 AM
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Registered: Feb 2002
Distribution: t2 - trying to anyway
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Well - I'd say screw djmixes.
If you feel adventurous you could install wine and exploiter and see if that works there - the latest wine version I tried wasn't too bad.I think it was version 2003115.If you try that also install winesetuptk and don't bother to ask me how to make it work.All I know about wine is that it either works or not.Or try wine and the mozilla or netscape win32 version.
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03-20-2003, 01:45 PM
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Registered: Dec 2002
Location: Mexico
Distribution: ArchLinux 0.7, Slackware 10.1
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evilrhino, where you able to burn cuefiles??
if you did, what program of command line did you use??
ill try the wine, but i think theres a way to make mozilla log into a site as microsoft explorer or any other browsers.
for the nvidia driver
my processor is an amd athlon xp
so i should install ia32, right???
thanks to everyone who's helping out
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