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Old 03-03-2003, 11:11 AM   #1
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i gotta try slack?


hi i've used mand for year and quite satisfied with it..
i'm getting new system and i've heard many times slack is a good distro..

i compile software that looks important to me
such as.. emacs/python/apache/gcc/ssh

but i'd just download rpm for new version of galeon/gaim/X/kde..

with slack, i should compile all those things which seems a bit overkill.

what's the benefit of using slack?

thank you

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Old 03-03-2003, 12:07 PM   #2
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For a zillion pros and cons do a search and/or go to the distro section.
 
Old 03-03-2003, 12:07 PM   #3
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Of course you should. If for nothing else, just to see "What's the benefit to using Slack" if anything. If it's not for you, scrap it and fall back on your dual booted distro (set that up so you don't have to worry about it after). You can also scrap your other distro if you find that Slack has everything you've ever desired in a distro and more. Either way, you can't lose

Personally, I still have Mandy on my box. Boot into it for Printing and troubleshooting. Slack is my main distro, runs all my servers, and is my desktop as well (all on the same box currently). It's a good combo to work with, speed and sleekness from Slack, RPM and ease-of-use (for the lazy side of me) from Mandy.

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Old 03-03-2003, 12:12 PM   #4
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The main benefit of Slackware (IMO) is that you learn a lot about Linux internally, the way the OS itself works and does things. This is as opposed to other distros like Mandrake, which have front-end tools to help you take care of as many things as possible without concerning yourself with the details. The price is that you don't learn much about Linux itself, but rather about the tools provided with your particular distro. However, it will take you more time to configure your system the way you want it.

Other benefits of Slackware are that it is very stable, due to the selective way in which packages are included, and that it can be faster and use fewer resources because it doesn't have the "bloat" of some other distros. Also, you should know that Slack has its own package system (used through pkgtool) and that there are packages made specifically for Slack (although they are not as numerous as RPMs or Debian packages). You can find a large selection of Slack packages here: http://www.linuxpackages.net/

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Old 03-03-2003, 03:00 PM   #5
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I switched from Red Hat 8 to Slack 8.1 at the end of last December. It's great!!! I was having problems with RH8 (it was acting very buggy-KDE had probs due to their BlueCurve theme). Anyways, Slack is the way to go IMO. As Dave Skywatcher said, you "learn" a lot about Linux that you necessarily don't with other distros. You learn how to setup programs such as X Windows, and your network.

Oh, and let me tell you, compiling isn't as hard as it seems. Yet another reason I switched to Slack is because RH8 had trouble installing rpm's. And after a while, you can immpress your friends and say you're a real hacker while the program compiles on you screen :-) (sorry, just watched Hackers a few nites ago again for laughs)

Nick

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Old 03-03-2003, 03:18 PM   #6
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I'll try Slack too... A lot of people say good things about it.. I'm downloading it right now... I'll also try freeBSD
 
Old 03-03-2003, 08:27 PM   #7
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TRYING another distro is never a bad idea.
Try any distro you want on another partition.
If you find one you like better than what you are using, consider switching.
Trying them is the best way to see where they are very much the same but very different.
 
Old 03-03-2003, 11:08 PM   #8
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hi..
i'm installing slack now..

i'm doing 'menu' installation ..(it's becoming almost full installation =))

what r these packages? how can i replace , for example emacs to newer one ?
with rpm i would just remove it with rpm -e and install source version..

what about the packages that slack is installing?

thank you
 
Old 03-03-2003, 11:21 PM   #9
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pkgtool

Use pkgtool to remove packages that are installed during setup and any that you install via pkgtool or installpkg in the future. Also, look into a thing called "check install" which creates a database from "make installs" that are performed from sources. This too will help you to keep track of what's installed and such.

Cool
 
Old 03-03-2003, 11:51 PM   #10
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hey masterc .. i'm in deep trouble..
feeling like i become a total noob to linux again..

install process is finished.. and reboot..
boom..
x is not starting(with startx)
errror : no screens found
maybe.. i need to do something about my ndivia graphic card?
edit: i'll try installing ndivia stuff..

ethernet card was not probed during install..
i chose bare kernel.. if that's the problem..
what should i do?
network card is intel pro 100/ve
edit: found driver from intel

help!

thanks ((

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Old 03-04-2003, 12:00 AM   #11
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he he he he, you are a n00b again now. No worries, everyone gets those at first (or rather MOST everyone, first post I've seen was the other day, someone got it working OOB). Fire up xf86config and configure your X server. Then, modprobe the module for your network card, and get lynx going. Head over to nvidia's website and get the source for your card. Compile and install it, make the changes to /etc/X11/XF86Config and then startx.

You will run into sound very quickly, so get that up and running next. Your modules file is /etc/rc.d/rc.modules it's straight forward.

It's all dark and eerie at first, but every single one of us have been there, no worries, anyone of us will walk you through it if you can't find answers in the Slackware forum

Cool
 
Old 03-04-2003, 12:40 AM   #12
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hehe
this is pain in the ass..
=(

k i modprobe the networking module..
ifconfig shows it's up..

but i can't ping anywhere..
i assume i need to set routing entry or dns look up?

ifconfig shows there were some rx packets, but not tx..
what do i do?

about the nvidia.. i have no idea what driver to download..
mine is 64m ddr geforce4 mx ..
i notice there are ia32/ ia64 version ..
which one do i go with?
my cpu is intel 2.4 if that makes difference..

thank you
 
Old 03-04-2003, 12:48 AM   #13
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Yeah, go for the ia32, pretty much looks like unless you are running a Sun box, or a future P4 (3.06+) you are still using 32 bit processing, ia32.

How is your network configured. Do you have your modem connected straight to your box, or via a router or what? If it's via a router, you need to run:
dhcpcd
for DHCP to setup your network (assuming your router does DHCP for you).

It's only a pain til you figure it out. It's real linux, no gui, icky tools in the way, it's you and the box. After once or twice, I've come to enjoy it. I'd be lost if I didn't configure X after an install now

If you use static IP's, yes you'll have to setup DNS in /etc/resolv.conf however, if you DHCP then that should be taken care of for you. If it's not, go ahead and manually make the changes.

Cool
 
Old 03-04-2003, 01:11 AM   #14
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Lol.. Sounds like a lot of stuff to do eh.. I'm burning the Slack CD right now.. I'll install it tomorrow.. So I guess I'll post my problems right here, since I could also come here and read what have been said.... Well check you guys tomorrow.
 
Old 03-04-2003, 02:07 AM   #15
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hi boreo =)
i've managed to make network/nvidia work..
mouse / sound are not working ...

my mouse is usb..
i symlinked /dev/mouse to /dev/input/mice
is this correct? (/dev/input/mouse0 gave an error when starting x)
and modprobe some modules..
different pages say different modules/ order..
don't know what to follow..
also i changed XFree86 file on mouse section.


and keyboard is not repeating(i have to press a 5times to type aaaaa)

a lot of work..

want to finish this before 4 so that i can do homeworks --;
 
  


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