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Old 05-15-2004, 11:43 PM   #16
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Any recommendations on a program to test RAM?
memtest86. There - edited to include the URL

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Old 05-16-2004, 02:07 AM   #17
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I thought SuSE 64 was free?

I thought the 64bit version of SuSE was free. They make reference to download it on their server. I believe the address is as follows:

ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/x86_64/current

Possibly, I am mistaken. But it looks like the link to me.

-KJOY
 
Old 05-16-2004, 03:53 PM   #18
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I highly reccommend not becoming a mandrakeclub member at the time being. this is becasue if you search these fourms, you will see a thread about a technical flaw from mandrake which is charging people several thousand dollars more than they should be. I do not know if it has been resolved, but i dont think you would be happy if you were like some of the other unfortunate people who got charged $13,000 instead of $130.

I suggest you goto www.suse.com and download the 9.1 live evauluation cd to see if you like it, and if you do, then consider getting it
 
Old 05-17-2004, 10:51 PM   #19
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yes I suppose it is free download this file and burn to a disk boot off it and to a network install (NEED broadband for this)

ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/x86_64/current/boot/boot.iso
 
Old 05-18-2004, 07:08 AM   #20
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Originally posted by ONEderer
My preference, is Mandrake.
I tried Mandrake for both desktops & laptops. My thoughts:
Positives:
- super easy install
- usually works right out of the box with minimal fuss
- lots of gui configuration controls
- comes with a lot of apps

Negatives:
- RPM packages (my least favorite, i.e. RPM HELL)
- making things super easy is not how to learn linux, you have to get down and dirty
- runs slow because everything is included

I liked Mandrake for the laptop. It installed and ran pretty well. Easiest distro to configure a wi-fi card. I don't recommend it for the desktop because it ran like a pig (on my 800 mhz machine, anyway).

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Slackware is a fine distro. But they don't and won't for quite some time, make a version for 64bit systems. Slack is very slow on updates, and new versions, and compared to other distros, it is more oriented to do things the primitive way, mainly manually. Personally, I don't have time to go chasing for missing tarball files, all over the internet, to make a compile successful.
Do you know the Slack developers and their timetable for a 64 bit implementation? Have you used swaret? It's as easy as apt-get and handles dependencies quite nicely. You can set your version to 'current' and you will have one of the most up to date systems available. It makes system wide upgrades a snap with minimal fuss. You can also point it to 3rd party repositories like http://linuxpackages.net which has the latest and greatest packages ready to go. I tried Slack a few years back and initially liked it until I wanted to upgrade my system. I eventually went on to try Gentoo and Debian but came back with 9.1 and have been very happy. Yes, you occasionally have to edit a system file. This is not much different than Debian or Gentoo. This is how you learn how to do things on a linux system. Believe it or not Slack is not hard to install as long as you know your hardware. The installer is not gui but it's far easier than Gentoo or Debian. The easiest kernel compiles in my experience is Slack. Slack only uses the stock kernel so there's no gotchas in terms of customized patches you sometime get with other distros.

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Debian is a very stable distro, and far from being on the bleeding edge. Deb is also slow in updates and new versions. Many other distros are based on Debian. But I don't think that you will see in the very near future, a 64 bit version of this distro. Deb has a wonderful package manager to update your system and files, and packages. It is non commercial, and has no industrial affiliates.
Debian is a solid distro. You can go to the 'unstable' branch for the lastest and greatest and it's still mostly stable. Apt-get is great but other distros package managers have caught up (Gentoo & Slack).

My next system will be a 64 bit system so I've been thinking about which distro to go with. More than likely I'll go with Gentoo. With a dual processor opteron system with at least 1 gig of memory the 3 day install should get cut down to about 1 day.

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Old 05-18-2004, 08:00 AM   #21
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Maybe it will benefit you having a 64 bit CPU to go gentoo (But it sure as hell can't compete with slack in any other way :P )

Suse was the first firm to officially support 64 processing, so it's likely they still hold a lead ? Anyway Suse should be able to run really really well on your CPU. I'd go for suse if I were you, ESPECIALLY if you're relatively new.. Suse my friend :P

Anyway if you prefer trying it out before buying... perhaps some p2p or torrents will allow you to do just that. Anyway I think SUSE has some option to download the whole thing during installation too (legal hehe )

After the initial learning if/when you feel like moving on, contact the maintainer of slackware to make him add 64bit cpu support in the next version :P Personally I have never had as lovely a distro as slack.. Tried:
Red Hat (7.2, 8.0)
Fedora (core 1)
Mandrake (8.0, 8.2, 9.0, 9.1, 9.2 (+ rc's etc))
Gentoo (1.4 I believe)
Gentoox (gentoo for the xbox.. Now that was unpleasant, the xbox doesn't have the power to compile things in a reasonable speed, and the HDD makes alot of noise... eww)
Mandrake 9.1 (also for the xbox)
Debian Linux (uhm... woody)
Libranet Linux (debian with extra's, more userfriendly)
Slackware 9.0 (yay! :P )
Of course many has tried more than me, it's more to support my pro-slack views :P

Sorry to lead the topic a bit off but...
<rant>
Chase missing tarballs ? Are you nuts ? Chasing is something we know from RH/Fedora/Mandrake not slack! As mentioned we have swaret and others. Even so it's so easy to install packages with the nothing less than brilliant tgz solution.! Compiling tarballs have never been so easy. Look at the list above. I can tell you right here and now that on any of these systems, I've never had as easy compiles as slack. I used to dread tar's, now I like them cause they give me the optimal choice (control freak) while being fast and truly optimised for my system. I'm sorry but how can packages for gentoo be optimised if they all by default uses the same compile flags ? Running slack is hard at first (yes!) but in the end. I doubt you could move away again even if you wanted.</rant>

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Old 05-18-2004, 09:15 AM   #22
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The SuSE 9.1 pro boxset comes with both x86 and 64-bit versions. I owuld assume that their FTP install option covers the same stuff but with only the GPL programs.
 
Old 05-18-2004, 01:14 PM   #23
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I would sugest creating a multi-boot system so you can start using LINUX and keep Windows.
That's what I did and I like it.
I've been going from distro to distro to see which LINUX systems I want to keep and because I'm set up use 4 different operating systems I can keep Win3.1 and WinXP opperational.
 
Old 05-19-2004, 01:35 PM   #24
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I would go with gentoo. It runs lighting fast. It can be a bear to install.
 
  


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