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View Poll Results: How often do you reboot your Linux desktop?
Daily 157 38.67%
Weekly 46 11.33%
Monthly 50 12.32%
Only for kernel updates 133 32.76%
Never 20 4.93%
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Old 08-02-2014, 03:51 PM   #121
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Smile rebooting or not


I think the value of this thread is that it indicates the stability of at least some distros of Linux. It would be interesting to find out if the ability to let the system run without needing to reboot because of instability or some other reason is a factor of the particular distro of Linux, the type of sytem it's running on, or some other factor. Is there one or other distro that is more stable than others?
 
Old 08-02-2014, 06:04 PM   #122
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Sorry herbpagel
But no , it is a pointless poll
Or.. maybe not

Personally I reboot if I have to for example kernel update

I've never rebooted for stability reasons,
Okm might be a white lie.
In the past I've *had* to reboot because windows (vmware) 'crashed' and locked keyboard 'out'
But, 90% of the time I could ssh in and 'kill' vmware and negate the reboot (although often quicker to just 'hard' reboot)

It has been a long time (guessing 10 years) since I was in that situation


I do 'reboot' for hardware or kernel changes

Or, if I need 'desktop' or xen , my gfx card refuses to work with xen, so most of the time I'm xen (via laptop or work) and sometimes boot non xrn when I need local access
 
Old 08-03-2014, 05:52 AM   #123
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On my PC, only when needed (kernel updates, power, hardware changes) - a few times a year.
On my laptop, I hibernate regularly, and reboot about once a month.
 
Old 08-03-2014, 10:33 PM   #124
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How often re-boot

Most of my linux boxes go fro months, some years some just until I do something stupid with power cables. Right now some at 65 days, some a few hours (power cable), some three weeks (discovered UPS batteries were bad). The Win7 box gets a daily reboot.
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Old 08-04-2014, 12:07 AM   #125
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Other then Kernal updates, ONLY when black out
 
Old 08-04-2014, 04:02 AM   #126
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Linux Re-Boot

We only re-boot when required or if there is a power outage. Even so, the UPS makes the RedHat servers the most reliable in the computer room. At the moment uptime is 40 days but have managed to go over a year before now (damn power cuts!)
 
Old 08-04-2014, 01:34 PM   #127
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My desktop has been shutdown 4 times this year.
2 power outages
the other times were because we moved home and then when furniture was shuffled around.
 
Old 08-04-2014, 02:04 PM   #128
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I think the value of this thread is that it indicates the stability of at least some distros of Linux. It would be interesting to find out if the ability to let the system run without needing to reboot because of instability or some other reason is a factor of the particular distro of Linux, the type of sytem it's running on, or some other factor. Is there one or other distro that is more stable than others?
Look at the answers it has gotten. If you want to know how stable something is, asking people how often they reboot their desktop is not the way to find out.

Asking me how often I flip my light switch on and off is not indicative of how stable the power grid is.

Unfortunately this thread will continue to get attention because it is a safe way to increase your post count. Which is fine.
 
Old 08-04-2014, 02:13 PM   #129
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Look at the answers it has gotten. If you want to know how stable something is, asking people how often they reboot their desktop is not the way to find out.

Asking me how often I flip my light switch on and off is not indicative of how stable the power grid is.

Unfortunately this thread will continue to get attention because it is a safe way to increase your post count. Which is fine.
I'm actually quite interested in people's attitude towards power saving and how many, for example, have got hibernate to work and use that.
I also notice some others mentioning power cuts so I realise I'm not the only one.
I realise power cuts and energy bills aren't directly related to Linux but as somebody interested in technology in general I find it interesting anyhow.
This is actually why I was possibly pressing the point a bit much about the question being about desktops as the use case for laptops and servers is very different.
 
Old 08-04-2014, 02:55 PM   #130
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In response to other comments, my machines all run slackware (I'm lazy) and are often asleep or hibernating. If I'm out of the house (home office) I see no point in wasting electricity. My VPN and storage machines stay on though.
 
Old 08-04-2014, 03:46 PM   #131
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for what it's worth, I seldom reboot my phone or tablet ( both Android 4.4.4 .. CyanogenMod )

Now, there was a time when I would 'turn off' my phone ( pre-smartphone ) it wasn't really 'off' as the alarm clock would still work
This is a feature I miss with my Android phones..

Anyway.. I think the general theme here is people 'reboot' when needed.. which is how it should be.

The real question should not be 'when' reboot but why!
is a "boot .. do work.. shutdown" a reboot?
I think not ....

If this poll is about 'stability' I think we need to clearly define what constitutes a 'reboot for stability'
But this starts to complicate things

lets not take 'open polls' too seriously but rather as a bit of fun, something to join in with.


Anyway, casting my 'vote' now, kernel update.. as my "reboot for xen" isn't an option here ( see my first post in this thread )
 
Old 08-04-2014, 04:23 PM   #132
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I'm actually quite interested in people's attitude towards power saving and how many, for example, have got hibernate to work and use that.
I also notice some others mentioning power cuts so I realise I'm not the only one.
I realise power cuts and energy bills aren't directly related to Linux but as somebody interested in technology in general I find it interesting anyhow.
This is actually why I was possibly pressing the point a bit much about the question being about desktops as the use case for laptops and servers is very different.
I agree. I think that would be a useful thread. But looking through these posts, that is not what this thread is providing -- possibly due to its narrow topic and the limited answers for the poll attached to this thread.

For future searchers and googlers, it might be better to have a separate power saving/energy related thread to discuss power saving/energy.

 
Old 08-04-2014, 05:57 PM   #133
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I voted only for kernel updates but that isnt precisely true. The power goes out around here a couple of times a year, so i also restart for power failures since i dont have a ups.
 
Old 08-05-2014, 07:02 AM   #134
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I think the value of this thread is that it indicates the stability of at least some distros of Linux. It would be interesting to find out if the ability to let the system run without needing to reboot because of instability or some other reason is a factor of the particular distro of Linux, the type of sytem it's running on, or some other factor. Is there one or other distro that is more stable than others?
Or it could be about how fast some distros get kernel updates for me the rarely goes beyond 2 weeks.
 
Old 08-05-2014, 08:00 AM   #135
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I really don't know about other distributions (because all my machines are Slackware) but I do notice that, most of the time, the CPU cores are quiescent running at 0% to maybe 1%. When I do something things pick up of course but generally there just isn't that much happening. The UPS has three running machines 24/7 plus two network printers, a router, a switch, the satellite modem and an LED desk lamp. I shows the load at about zilch (and it'll support all of that stuff for four hours before it quits).

Do some heavy arithmetic, crank up data base activity, well, the load goes up but doesn't stay for too long and right back to quiescent. Start up VirtualBox and boot Win7 and things start happening but even that doesn't last too long (why Windows drives processors to distraction I do not know -- or particularly care -- but that doesn't last long either because Win7 only gets used for Patch Tuesday and doing taxes once a year).

I have GKrellM running on my work machine (the others are headless) and monitor all of them that way. The two data base servers are Dell Dimension 8400's (that have fans on the processors); not the most efficient things but they've been running for a lot of years (they date from 2004).

Slackware does not constantly update -- there's no daily download. There are security updates: patches are released as they become available and there "current" updates for testing and evaluation but I prefer staying at the stable release (with security patches). I keep 'em up to date but don't get into the bleeding edge. When a full release is available I install it on all machines; that happens roughly annually (and then everybody gets booted).

I just happen to like the fact that Slackware doesn't require a lot of screwing around and daily or weekly or whatever updates; I value stability.

Sort of makes me wonder, reading through the threads, why folks are booting all the time. My machines get booted when the power goes off for more than four hours (doesn't happen more than once a year or so), when I install a new release or if there is a critical kernel update. Otherwise anything that's patched might require a restart of a daemon or two (and that doesn't require a boot). Obviously if the machine is shut down at night it's going to get booted in the morning but otherwise?

Tiz a puzzlement.
 
  


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