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Old 03-09-2005, 09:10 AM   #31
Gins
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Everything works smoothly. I am delighted. I am very happy that we are flanked by so many experts on linux issues.

There is a minor problem. I have file called '' Bill1 ''. It is a text document written in the word for windows. It is a huge document. It has probably 300 pages. I have been working with some other online forums for more than 10 years. 'This particular document contains some important data belongs to forum work. I can' t afford to loose it.

My Open office program sees it. When I tried to open, it just tells me trying to open. This message lasted for 3 hours.

Do you have any clue to open it and save on my linux side*?

My open office can't open it. All the other documents could open.


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mount -t ntfs -o ro,umask=222 /dev/hda5 /mnt
I have a question on the above command. I understand most of it.
What is the meanig of ' - o and - ro '' ?

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Old 03-09-2005, 03:39 PM   #32
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Quote:
Originally posted by Gins
There is a minor problem. I have file called '' Bill1 ''. It is a text document written in the word for windows. It is a huge document. It has probably 300 pages. I have been working with some other online forums for more than 10 years. 'This particular document contains some important data belongs to forum work. I can' t afford to loose it.

My Open office program sees it. When I tried to open, it just tells me trying to open. This message lasted for 3 hours.

Do you have any clue to open it and save on my linux side*?
Well, if nothing else helps, you could take it to a Windows machine with Word and save it in some other format, such as RTF, or divide it to pieces and try again. Generally I would suggest using open, standard formats in the future. Closed, proprietary formats have these problems by design.

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mount -t ntfs -o ro,umask=222 /dev/hda5 /mnt
I have a question on the above command. I understand most of it.
What is the meanig of ' - o and - ro '' ?
The -o argument simply tells the mount command that a list of options follows. In this case the options are ro and umask=222. The ro option means the filesystem is to be mounted read-only, which means it won't be writable. NTFS doesn't support UNIX style file permissions (I think), so umask=222 tells Linux to pretend the permissions for all files in the partition are r-xr-xr-x. That is good for directories, but the files will have unnecessary execute permissions.

Because NTFS isn't fully supported, I think it's mounted read-only by default, so the ro option might not have been necessary.
 
Old 03-10-2005, 06:09 AM   #33
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Ok, Gins, let me "punish" you a bit. As I see you're here from Jul '04. And you don't know how to mount a partition (probably, you don't know what's "fstab"), or whatever. I'M SURE, YOU HADN'T TRIED ANY OTHER DISTRO except Mdk. Well, I repeat over and over again (but in other words): Mdk IS NOT for newbies. It makes you think: "Oh, my KDE. Oh, my GNOME. I could do nothing without you". And that's really bad. What if your X breaks? You should know the command-line basics. But I'm sure you won't follow my advice until... until you install a better distro than Mdk... The problem is that people are lazy to handle difficulties until they face them. I know that myself Try, e.g., Slackware (yeah, I repeat every second). Before you'll be able to use GUI, you'll have to configure it. I promise: while this process you will learn MUCH MORE in 1 day, what you didn't know for half a year "using" Mdk... you will face MANY difficulties... but after you go through them, you'll understand why "not lazy" people prefer Linux. I don't say Mdk is s**t (but I thought that way in previous time). I just say that the first thing to do IS TO KNOW THE BASICS. It's true for all. AND ONLY THEN YOU CAN ALLOW YOURSELF TO BE LAZY
Thanks.

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Old 03-10-2005, 08:24 AM   #34
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Thanks lakefall


I just want to know what '' ip '' is doing in the following:
mkdir ~/doc
cp -ip * ~/doc


I understand all the other words or commands except '' ip ''.

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kornerr

You seem to be a bit angry with me. I am learning everyday by browsing this forum as well as asking questions. I have a very little time to do these things. I am going to school and studying networking.

I would consider changing onto Slackware.

It seems you are in Russia. I speak some Russian too. I have been to Russia several times and like the vast country. I was in Russia during the cold war period too. Russians are said to be clever at computer software and related matters.

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Old 03-10-2005, 12:01 PM   #35
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Gins, thanks for warm words... or how it's called in English. But still: get ANY Linux book and try Slack (I have RH7 book). BTW, I study at University. But actually I do nothing useful there and here And I'm really serious about getting knowledge first day of configuring Slack - I know it myself. And I thankful Slack for that.
Thanks again. Was nice to here you. C U
 
Old 03-10-2005, 12:19 PM   #36
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BTW: what "-ip" flags mean? Well, almost every command has such flag (argument, or whatever): "--help". E.g.:
Code:
cp --help
This option always describes command's possible arguments. Have a look at it. Another useful cmd:
Code:
man cp
That's a manual page. Almost all cmds have its own mans.
Good luck.
 
Old 03-10-2005, 12:26 PM   #37
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Quote:
Originally posted by Gins
I just want to know what '' ip '' is doing in the following:
mkdir ~/doc
cp -ip * ~/doc
"-ip" is the same as "-i -p". I used -p for the timestamps, which you probably didn't care about, though. I think it's often a good idea to use -i just in case, but perhaps I'm just being overly careful.
 
Old 03-10-2005, 02:54 PM   #38
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Lakefall

Are you based in Finland? You write English like a native English speaker, as far as I am concerned.

I know some Finns. Their English is different from yours.
 
Old 03-11-2005, 02:53 PM   #39
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Are you based in Finland? You write English like a native English speaker, as far as I am concerned.
You should see my Swedish.
 
Old 03-12-2005, 08:49 AM   #40
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You haven't wriiten anything in Swedish.

Jag också kan svenska. Du har inte skrivit nånting på svenska.
 
Old 03-12-2005, 09:12 AM   #41
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We should forget all the irrelevant things. Let bygones be bygones
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