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Old 08-31-2001, 06:04 PM   #1
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Question Hi there, I wanna get into Linux, what can you guys tell me about it?


Hey there. I wanna get started with Linux, and I was wonderen, what info you guys can give me on it. Like, what version, Mandrake, Rehat, etc. Where I can get it, and like that.

I was looken for Linux drivers for my KyroII and my modem, and there isn't any, sooo, is Linux still an option for me or not?

Any and all help would be great, thanx!

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Old 08-31-2001, 11:25 PM   #2
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Well....dis is what I can tell ya....
Get ready for a real adventure in computers and alittle programming. Fo sho', what ever distro u choose it will make ya betta' computer user; but to answer your question....I am a Mandrake user and I have till this day have had not one single problem...I can't say for the rest. Mandrake 8.0 has almost all drivers loaded into the kernel. Just have to pick and choose which linux u would like to work with.

By the way, Fo anybody else readin' dis also...I am a skilled brotha from the hood so don't mistake my ebonics fo misspelled words.
 
Old 09-01-2001, 09:44 AM   #3
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There is no "right" distribution for everybody. Hell, there's no one "right" distribution for <i>me</i>. It all depends upon the person. My personal favorite is Red Hat; I like the style. Knowing nothing about you than that you're a Linux beginner, though, I'd reccommend Mandrake--It's the easiest distribution I've encountered yet.

SuSE is popular in Europe; I'm not sure WHY, but it is. If you're European, that might be the right distro for you.

Slackware is a true geek's operating system. NOTHING can be done easily--you have to get your hands dirty to accomplish anything.

Debian has a lot of followers; The only variant of Debian I've tried is Corel Linux 1.2, and I couldn't install anything on it that didn't come with the OS itself. (Of course, it came with WordPerfect 8, and I've since been tearing my hair out trying to convert that .deb to an RPM.)

If you're short on hard drive space, go with Debian. It's fairly user friendly (not so much so as Mandrake), and small. Red Hat and Mandrake, AFAIK, are the only distros out there that require 2 CD's to install. Corel Linux 1.2 can be comfortably run on a 600 MB hard drive.

The only distros I really know, though, are Mandrake and RedHat--if I were you, I'd wait for some of the people who use other distros to answer. Keep an open mind--what's right for me won't be right for you.
 
Old 09-01-2001, 01:31 PM   #4
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Hey thanx guys! I was leaning more towards Mandrake myself.
But yea, I will keep an open mind about it, see what else everybody thionks about it. My location is in the States, so, hopefully that answers a few questions.

Just in case you were wondering, here are my system specs.

Intel Celeron 700@875
Abit VH6 mobo
392mb PC133
KyroII
30gb ATA66/100 Western Digital HD - WinME/Win2K/WinXP triple boot.
ActionTec CW 56k/V.90 modem
Thats pretty much the important stuff

How big of a partition will I need for Linux, and what format, FAT32, etc.?

My main concern is, will some of my hardware work with Linux, Like my KyroII and modem. Does Madrake have drivers for these? As I can't find Linux drivers for these anywhere.

Thanx again for your time!
 
Old 09-01-2001, 02:17 PM   #5
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I installed Red Hat 7.1 after 7.0 bombed.

I used Partition Magic to divide my hard drive in two and format one half to accept a Win 98 install.

Then I installed Red Hat on the other half. It went very smoothly; the install program can automatically configure and format your drive.
It found all my hardware no problem. I'd have to say it was about as easy as Win 98.

That was about two months ago. But now I'm having boocoo problems.
Weird crashes, no sound, disappearing icons, windows that disappear when minimized but stay open...

I find I have to go on line here or to groups.google.com to troubleshoot these problems. Linux has something called Linuxconf but I don't know how to use it yet. It also has something called Control Panel but it has none of the funcitionality of Window's Contro Panel, least as far as I can tell..

In a way this is a good thing because it forces you to actually learn about how computers work and not just depend on some on-board utility, but it can be very frustrating.

Therefore, I suggest any Newbie hang onto your Windows--you're gonna need it.
 
Old 09-01-2001, 02:43 PM   #6
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Well I don't plan on doing Linux only, I wanna do a quad boot,
 
Old 09-01-2001, 02:49 PM   #7
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Will some of my hardware work with Linux, Like my KyroII and modem. Does Madrake have drivers for these? As I can't find Linux drivers for these anywhere.

That is what makes linux a real OS system, the ability to find drivers and manipulate them to work with ur's. Believe me there is someone here in the Linux world who has or had the same problem as you; but I believe Mandrake has alternate drivers for Kyroll. Just have to try it out and c what happens.
 
Old 09-01-2001, 03:14 PM   #8
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You want to watch out for running into boot problems. I don't THINK win2k can boot to linux, win98 defo can't and xp.. is toss and i never intend to see if it can or not! I expect they can't as M$ hates linux, and doesn't want it to be easy to boot to linux once snared in a windows boot manager. Also there's at least 2 questions each week about problems dual booting linux and win2k, presumably because it's NTFS, instead of FAT32.

Linux generally uses EXT2 file systems. Which are VASTLY better (from my pov) than m$'s attempt. it NEVER needs defragmentation and so forth, and the way linux sees devices and manages it's directory structures is soo much nicer.

My beginners vote has to go for mandrake, one extra reason i like it is that it doesn't insist on passwords for root, which for a bedroom network is what I want, as i so don't wanna have to type in passwords for a system only I ever go near...
 
Old 09-01-2001, 07:41 PM   #9
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http://www.linmodems.org

You might be able to find a driver for your modem if it's a winmodem. Most 'built in' modems are winmodems.

What other OS's are you planning on using?

Personally, for a distro, I like Redhat. I used Mandrake, and I didn't like it. I had to use GRUB, which I HATE, and the installation was confusting for me. I really like Redhat. The installation is as easy as Mandrake, and I like the interface better.

That's my opinion!

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Old 09-01-2001, 08:47 PM   #10
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I boot from Win98 to Linux all the time using loadlin to activate vmlinuz from C:\. As long as you dial-in the parameters eg where to find Linux's boot partition you should have no problem. But don't forget to turn off Lilo with C:\fdisk /mbr.

I have issues with M$ too, but at times like these, when Linux is acting up, it comes in handy
 
Old 09-01-2001, 09:19 PM   #11
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That is what makes linux a real OS system, the ability to find drivers and manipulate them to work with ur's.
aahh.. I've always wondered what the definition of a real OS was.. now I know...hehe

On another note.. what you mention there is exactly what can make Linux a major pain in the a**.... finding and getting things running well can be a hair pulling experience.

And now that I'm in a mood for complaining... What is the most ANNOYING word you come by when working with Linux??

Answer : FIXME

It can send me into a rage when I can't get the info I want when I want it..grrr

And on a final note let me just say AAAAAARRRRRGGHHHHHHH

Thank you drive through..

P.s. yes I've been having some trouble lately with both hardware and software when trying to set up a server.. lol

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Old 09-01-2001, 11:39 PM   #12
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I read in the Win2K manual that it can easily dual boot Linux and Win2K. Oh well. Do you guys know of a good boot manager than that I can use that will work?


Also, I am usen Win2K and XP on FAT32 partitions, there arent any NTFS on my HD, that help at all?
I wanna hopefully, do a quad boot, if possible. Other wise, I can just put it in a diff system too, I got it half built now, sooo...


Anyway, thanx guys for the info again, really appreciate it!
Keep it comen if possible!
 
Old 09-01-2001, 11:45 PM   #13
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There is a order to load the os.....it really dosen't matter what order u load ur windows; but Linux has to be loaded last or partitioned last which ever u want to call it. I heard about this on techtv one day.
 
Old 09-01-2001, 11:52 PM   #14
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Ok, cool, Linux will be ou ton the last partition anyway, so, maybe it will work, I hope! I am gonna download Mandrake I think soon. Then just wait a bit b4 installen it. What version, 8.0 or 8.1?
 
Old 09-02-2001, 06:47 PM   #15
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bootloader:

http://download.cnet.com/downloads/0...st-7-8.5404556

Go there. This is supposed to be good. You can boot up to 100 operating systems!
 
  


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