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pompous ninja 11-23-2017 01:33 PM

Given the success of Android, having should a collaboration effort exist for a single "new user orientated" Linux distribution?
 
Given the success of Android, having should a collaboration effort exist for a single "new user orientated" Linux distribution?

wpeckham 11-23-2017 03:55 PM

1. We already have several of those. If you start a new one, what would set it apart?

2. This has (IMOHO) nothing to do with Android, or the success it is experiencing.

!!! 11-24-2017 02:57 AM

Reddit &chat
 
Hello again my friend @pn!!!

This www-search: create a new "user oriented" Linux distribution like android
finds things like: this, and this.

The 1st (reddit) link reminds me of the significant difference of:
LQ being more technical specific Question&Answer, and
reddit being more social-media 'chat'. So, maybe we could go 'chat' there[?]

wpeckham 11-24-2017 05:49 AM

But, if that is what you want why not just run Android-X86? Android ported to the X86 processor lines.

brianL 11-24-2017 06:49 AM

There are several "new-user orientated" distros already. No need for any more.

DavidMcCann 11-24-2017 10:56 AM

I don't see the connection implied in the original question. The success of the Android phones is down to (1) their superiority to other phones and (2) the fact that a phone gives internet access to people who couldn't afford a laptop (and don't actually need one anyway). How does this imply that we need yet another Linux distro?

!!! 11-24-2017 03:49 PM

@pn: did you know that 'Linux' is technically just the kernel
(1big binary file; think: 1pgm, loosely. Yes, Plus many drivers, sometimes in an initrd)
And all the rest of the zillions of programs/pkgs/'apps' are often GNU, selected&configured by distro creators? Android does its own, very different, version of this, appearing more like an iPhone/iPad, which use a different, mach/Unix-like kernel.

Have a read of wikipedia on this. For your VBox experiments, osboxes.org has 'pre-installed' Android to try, as fast as you can download &7unzip the .vdi. Takes just a few minutes (after downloaded&7upzipped)

Or please take a few minutes, to try my post here, about only a kernel plus busybox CLI, in a tiny VBox.
(I find them fun and fascinating, for studying concepts!!!) Enjoy your discoveries!!!

pompous ninja 11-24-2017 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wpeckham (Post 5784572)
But, if that is what you want why not just run Android-X86?

Because does not exist a single "new user orientated" Linux distribution to desktop!

Linus Torvalds said to Stephen Cass:

"Hey, still working on it. And I think Chromebooks are actually doing reasonably well, even if it’s a fairly limited desktop environment, and not the full traditional Linux workstation model.

As to why the desktop is such a hard nut to crack—there are multiple reasons, but one of the big ones is simply user inertia. The desktop is simply unique in the computing world in that it’s both very personal—you interact with it rather intimately every day if you work with computers—but also complicated in ways many other computing environments aren’t.

Look at your smartphone. That’s also a fairly intimate piece of computing technology, and one that people get pretty attached to (and one where Linux, thanks to Android, is doing fairly well). The desktop is in many ways more complex, with much more legacy baggage. It’s a hard market to enter. Even more so than with a cellphone, people really have a certain set of applications and workflows that they are used to, and most people will never end up switching operating systems—the number of people who install a different OS than the one that came preinstalled with the machine is pretty low.

At the same time, I think it’s an important market, even if to some degree the whole “general-purpose desktop” seems to be fading, with more specialized, and thus simpler, platforms taking on many tasks—smartphones, tablets, and Chromebooks all being examples of things that aren’t really meant to be fully fledged general-purpose environments."

Reference: https://spectrum.ieee.org/computing/...linus-torvalds

pompous ninja 11-24-2017 04:55 PM

Sorry, I typed wrong!

brianL 11-24-2017 05:04 PM

You're doing the same thing here that you've done in other threads. Asking the same question over and over again. Change your username to "Boring Troll".

!!! 11-24-2017 05:36 PM

@pn: in your prior thread, you replied to Jeremy ('root'=LQcreator/owner)
that you did not intend to deliberately negatively annoy LQ'ers.
But your choice of interaction is.
As a 'social chat friend', I suggest that you do this elsewhere.

I recently noticed CL.org has a Linux forum, where 'anything goes'.

To repeat what I wrote in #3, LQ culture is more of: Q: pgm hang A: strace
Vs: Q: shouldn't we get a better sports team (Linux) for our city/world?

I noticed that other sites tolerate the spewing of the latter kind of banter.
LQ is (mostly) intentionally very different: precise technical Q&A.

I offer this as a contribution toward your productive success, in Life overall.

Edit: added: re-writing #8 obfuscates (hides/covers-up) the reasons for the posting flow above. (I neglected to 'Quote' the prior version of your #8, unfortunately.)

pompous ninja 11-24-2017 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by !!! (Post 5784779)
@pn: did you know that 'Linux' is technically just the kernel
(1big binary file; think: 1pgm, loosely. Yes, Plus many drivers, sometimes in an initrd)
And all the rest of the zillions of programs/pkgs/'apps' are often GNU, selected&configured by distro creators? Android does its own, very different, version of this, appearing more like an iPhone/iPad, which use a different, mach/Unix-like kernel.

Have a read of wikipedia on this. For your VBox experiments, osboxes.org has 'pre-installed' Android to try, as fast as you can download &7unzip the .vdi. Takes just a few minutes (after downloaded&7upzipped)

Or please take a few minutes, to try my post here, about only a kernel plus busybox CLI, in a tiny VBox.
(I find them fun and fascinating, for studying concepts!!!) Enjoy your discoveries!!!

Do you suggest me which video for I can install Minimal Linux?

!!! 11-25-2017 03:10 AM

It is infinitely trivial!!! Takes 1 minute maximum:party:!!!
Click on New button in VBox.
It only needs about 100mb ram, and choose no vdi disk.
Start the VM and give it the 7mb .iso you downloaded, as the boot cd.
In a few seconds, you get the # prompt.
Let me know when you have done this.
Read my bb etc links here.
By starting with one executable (&a couple .so), You will soon be a Linux Guru;)
The next step will be: download (dl) bash-static .deb and dpkg -u it
Then, run several VMs, each with a few NICs, to practice complex networking.
Then, you will begin creating your own custom distro, from http://minimal.linux-bg.org

ondoho 11-25-2017 03:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pompous ninja (Post 5784803)
Sorry, I typed wrong!

Quote:

Originally Posted by brianL (Post 5784805)
You're doing the same thing here that you've done in other threads. Asking the same question over and over again. Change your username to "Boring Troll".

op changed the post you were refering to 6min after you posted your reply.
that's why in cases like these, i recommend a full quote.

brianL 11-25-2017 06:27 AM

I was refering to the possibility that this thread might turn out like his previous one.
https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...re-4175617951/


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