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Old 05-24-2005, 10:34 PM   #1
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Gentoo Anyone?


Howdy,

I decided to give Gentoo another go on a home computer.

I used the minimal install ver 2005.0

I ran `emerge kde` a few days ago, how long should it take?
 
Old 05-24-2005, 11:05 PM   #2
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Ooooohhhh - at least a couple of days
Depends on your config a lot.

Man I hope you emerged X first, else your dependancies will stretch out the door.
There are binaries available BTW.

I did X one night (and went to bed), Gnome the next day at around noon. Each was done by the following morning - KDE is (much) bigger I believe.
(2.8 H/T enabled, 1 Gig of memory).
 
Old 05-24-2005, 11:20 PM   #3
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a long ass time! even longer if you have dial up like me. and the bin (grp) only work if you haven't emerge synced yet or changeg the use flags.

welcome btw.
 
Old 05-25-2005, 12:01 AM   #4
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I did not install X first but it seems like it is about done. It started with 98 packages and started on 88 now.

I do have a fast connection. The build time is the hold up. The 750MHz is clicking along.

I basically installed the bones and then booted into the new system, did a depclean and rebuild and ran `emerge kde`



Thanks.
 
Old 05-25-2005, 12:34 AM   #5
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I've seen it take between 2-3 days on an old pentium 2(installation from stage 1).
 
Old 05-25-2005, 03:34 AM   #6
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hi there,
just for the record, there is something called genlop that can give you a hint about these things..
Code:
# emerge -p whatever | genlop --pretend
the output should be something like
Code:
Estimated update time: XX hours, YY minutes.
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Old 05-25-2005, 08:54 AM   #7
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And by the way, "emerge kde" installs every single kde package, like games, all the internationalization files (Hebrew, etc), artwork, kdeedu (for children 3-18 yrs old), all the accessibility related programs (for the handicapped), etc.
I assume you need all that, but just in case you don't there is more information here on emerging only the kde packages you need.
 
Old 05-25-2005, 09:11 AM   #8
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JunctaJuvant is right.

Even with kdebase alone, compiling is not a trivial thing. It will take ages. (it ran for a full night and then 6 hours in the morning for me).

Choose carefully the packages you want to install. emerge kde is usually not a good idea.

Last edited by vharishankar; 05-25-2005 at 09:13 AM.
 
Old 05-25-2005, 09:48 AM   #9
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Interesting info since I plan to install gentoo myself in the very near future. If it takes that long for KDE to compile, I probably will emerge fluxbox or xfce first and then install KDE later.
 
Old 05-25-2005, 10:19 AM   #10
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Interesting info since I plan to install gentoo myself in the very near future. If it takes that long for KDE to compile, I probably will emerge fluxbox or xfce first and then install KDE later.
Thats exactly what I do. Firefox takes forever to compile as well and with the frequency of updates they have been releasing I should probably be installing the binary.
 
Old 05-25-2005, 05:03 PM   #11
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took me 18 hrs to compile kde on a amd 1.1ghz machine.
 
Old 05-26-2005, 01:54 AM   #12
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I got it done.

Started up kde and it looks pretty much ready to go. I did get mplayer going as well. I need to install firefox.

I decided to do `emerge dvdrip` and she took off again and it appears that we're installing most of gnome now.

Oh well, disk space is not any problem. It seems like it will be another day or so on this.

I decided to do a kernel rebuild in the meantime as I rushed though the first one a bit to get the system booted up.


The system is completely usable for internet browsing, email with the build going in the background.

genlop looks like it will be usefull, thanks.
 
Old 05-26-2005, 10:25 PM   #13
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DavidPhillips,

Glad to know you got it going! Gentoo can be fun if you like long compiles
 
Old 05-26-2005, 11:02 PM   #14
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I decided to do `emerge dvdrip` and she took off again and it appears that we're installing most of gnome now.
One of the ideas of Gentoo is to have a tad more control over your system. Doesn't sound like you're utilising that option

Instead of just emerging crap left right and center, try looking at the emerge flags, running emerge -pa will tell you what it's going to install and ask if you want to proceed. emerge -pva will do that same but show you the relevant USE flags for everything being installed. Then once you've got your USE flags worked out, emerge stuff like this so you're not wasting time compiling a ton of crap you don't want/need. Example (made up since I don't have a Gentoo system handy)
Code:
# emerge -pva kde
Emerge will install the following packages:
    kdebase-3.4.1 USE +kde +qt blah

# emerge dvdrip
Emerge will install the following packages:
    dvdrip-1.0.1
    some-random-gtk-frontend-1.0.0 USE +gtk +gnome
    all-of-gnome-2.10.2

# USE="-gtk -gnome" emerge dvdrip
Emerge will install the following packages:
    dvdrip-1.0.1
Just a tip for the future man emerge has lots of stuff you might want to have a look at. Disk space may not be an issue but on that machine I bet compile time is. That's one of the major reasons I don't run Gentoo myself and I have a P4 3.2GHz...
 
Old 05-27-2005, 10:35 AM   #15
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cool, thanks for the info.
 
  


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