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Old 07-01-2010, 12:51 AM   #1
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Question Free Server Edition for Linux


Hi mates,

I want to use any good server edition for linux to run a wamp webserver (apache)? I am looking for something free and easy and looking for new latest version.

Honestly speaking, I am not expert with linux, so please use simple aspects when you reply to my post.

I downloaded the Fedora 13, but I can not know if it works for server or just for desktop client?

Thanks in advance.

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Old 07-01-2010, 01:14 AM   #2
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Most modern distros contain a good compliment of software for both desktop and server use. However, it may be as an add on package through the repositories.

Honestly, Slackware is one of the best out of the box.

However, there are many distros streamlined and designed for virtual machine computing that are based on rPath
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RPath

One in particular that I have played with is Openfiler. Be warned though. It's designed to be run on a virtual machine so it doesn't have many setup options in the way it installs to the harddrive. It uses grub and takes over the master boot record. Know what you are doing before you do it.
 
Old 07-01-2010, 02:59 AM   #3
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Most modern distros contain a good compliment of software for both desktop and server use. However, it may be as an add on package through the repositories.

Honestly, Slackware is one of the best out of the box.

However, there are many distros streamlined and designed for virtual machine computing that are based on rPath
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RPath

One in particular that I have played with is Openfiler. Be warned though. It's designed to be run on a virtual machine so it doesn't have many setup options in the way it installs to the harddrive. It uses grub and takes over the master boot record. Know what you are doing before you do it.
Thanks for your reply. So you think Fedora13 can work as server?

My application is not wide distributed, I will start testing and I am expecting maximum 300 users.

What do you think?
 
Old 07-01-2010, 01:58 PM   #4
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Thanks for your reply. So you think Fedora13 can work as server?

My application is not wide distributed, I will start testing and I am expecting maximum 300 users.

What do you think?
Yes, Fedora will allow you to do that. Although it's primary aim is the desktop as Lumak mentioned it has the capability to act as a server.

For a max of 300 (simultaneous?) users the server's operation will depend on the hardware you put it on. One of Linux's advantages is that it will run better on older hardware than Windows, Solarisx86 would.

Bill

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Old 07-01-2010, 02:04 PM   #5
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Yes, Fedora will allow you to do that. Although it's primary aim is the desktop as Lumak mentioned it has the capability to act as a server.

For a max of 300 (simultaneous?) users the server's operation will depend on the hardware you put it on. One of Linux's advantages is that it will run better on older hardware than Windows, Solarisx86 would.

Bill
Thanks Bill for the precious comment! I really appreciate that!!!!

My hardware will be laptop Dell Vostro with i3 intel processor and 4GB RAMs, can it afford 300 simultaneous users??

Do you think Centos 5.3 is designed to operate as server better than Fedora 13?

I am new to linux and I need something easy to start with, I need to specialize in this OS and I will say bye to windows forever!!!

Thanks a lot once again..

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Ubuntu, as well as other distributions, has a specific server version for download.

http://www.ubuntu.com/server
 
Old 07-01-2010, 02:42 PM   #7
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Ubuntu, as well as other distributions, has a specific server version for download.

http://www.ubuntu.com/server
Thanks Vamped,

Please do you know what's the server edition of Fedora 13? It's not mentioned if it's client or server edition!

I am downloading the Ubuntu server now, but I am not sure if it's free to install or not??

Thanks!

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I downloaded the Fedora 13, but I can not know if it works for server or just for desktop client?
Functionally, it would be fine (but, obviously, using something with a shorter support horizon increases the amount of work you have to do) but do remember that you can make anything, even the most supposedly secure system, insecure by the pattern of configuration and use.


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...server edition for linux to run a wamp webserver (apache)?
wamp = Windows, Apache, MySQL and a programming language beginning with P?

You can run a webserver on almost anything; whether you should is a very different question. Almost anything (except the minimalist and specialist distros) will have Apache, MySQL and a programming language beginning with P in repos. Some will only have pretty ancient packages, and that you should avoid.

If this server faces the internet (you haven't said, but maybe I should guess), then you need to worry about security, unless you have someone else to do this for you.

From a security point of view, you don't want any excess stuff installed; excess stuff (and that includes bloaty bloaty bloaty Graphical User Interfaces and applications) implies excess bugs and bugs are often vulnerabilities. (and that's why you need updates...once the bad guys know that a popular version of an application has a particular vulnerability, they'll be off trying the doors to see who hasn't secured everything).
 
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Please do you know what's the server edition of Fedora 13? It's not mentioned if it's client or server edition!
Fedora is the desktop (/community/free) edition of the RedHat (enterprise) distribution. If Fedora/RedHat is your kind of thing, particularly, think about Centos (zero cost/debranded version of RH).

Fedora is more bleeding edge, and, in some ways, is a try-out for stuff that will eventually make its way into the more 'boring but stability is assured' RedHat.

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I am downloading the Ubuntu server now, but I am not sure if it's free to install or not??
All the *buntus are zero cost to obtain -this should be clear from the download site, somewhere - but there are also paid-for support options these days.
 
Old 07-01-2010, 03:07 PM   #10
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Functionally, it would be fine (but, obviously, using something with a shorter support horizon increases the amount of work you have to do) but do remember that you can make anything, even the most supposedly secure system, insecure by the pattern of configuration and use.




wamp = Windows, Apache, MySQL and a programming language beginning with P?

You can run a webserver on almost anything; whether you should is a very different question. Almost anything (except the minimalist and specialist distros) will have Apache, MySQL and a programming language beginning with P in repos. Some will only have pretty ancient packages, and that you should avoid.

If this server faces the internet (you haven't said, but maybe I should guess), then you need to worry about security, unless you have someone else to do this for you.

From a security point of view, you don't want any excess stuff installed; excess stuff (and that includes bloaty bloaty bloaty Graphical User Interfaces and applications) implies excess bugs and bugs are often vulnerabilities. (and that's why you need updates...once the bad guys know that a popular version of an application has a particular vulnerability, they'll be off trying the doors to see who hasn't secured everything).
Hi,,

Really thanks for your explanation, yes I will use PHP + MySQL + Apache.

I do not have good knowledge in security, I know how to protect my application from PHP and mysql point of view, but never dealt with Linux systems.

Please can you advise me to free server edition of linux with easy use???? Do not worry I can learn very very fast..

Also the testing which will I do, will be among my friends in secret way, so no one will know about it other than my friends in specific times...

Thanks a lot!!!

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Old 07-01-2010, 03:14 PM   #11
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Fedora is the desktop (/community/free) edition of the RedHat (enterprise) distribution. If Fedora/RedHat is your kind of thing, particularly, think about Centos (zero cost/debranded version of RH).

Fedora is more bleeding edge, and, in some ways, is a try-out for stuff that will eventually make its way into the more 'boring but stability is assured' RedHat.



All the *buntus are zero cost to obtain -this should be clear from the download site, somewhere - but there are also paid-for support options these days.
Thanks a lot... I am downloading Ubunto server now, Will it work under Intel i3 processor?

You advise me to work with this edition as beginner?

Many thanks!
 
  


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